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originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: xuenchen
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: GodEmperor
Could someone point out where in the constitution the separation of church and state are written?
I don't see how an EO like this would violate the establishment clause, or the 14th for that matter. Should we bar all people who hold religious beliefs from participating in politics? Any laws supported by any religious denomination would have to be constitutional in the first place, would they not?
I'd be happy too.
No Religious Test Clause
(This is common sense in the political world)
Where in the constitution does it specifically ban any and all religions from participating in politics, or for religious adherents to hold office?
originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: Perfectenemy
I want to ship every Sharia supporter to a a middle eastern country
You want to deport American citizens and violate Freedom of Religion?
originally posted by: Fowlerstoad
So, as long as we get some good laws, and can throw out illegals with some religious prejudice and discrimination (both words maligned by the left, but good words in the English language overall, and useful!), then no problems with Sharia law, right?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SaturnFX
...and?
Wait a minute...
Are you saying that lifting a prohibition on religious organizations opposing or supporting a political candidate will lead to sharia law? Maybe a Christian theocracy?
No. The refusal to criticize Islam, to satire Islam, and to oppose Islamism leads to Sharia law.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Look at the media, for instance. But if political donations are allowed, then everyone, including the Islamists and evangelicals, should be able to take part.
originally posted by: markosity1973
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: markosity1973
I agree that there should be that separation. But I also think that if the separation is lifted, all of us should get an equal hand in it. After all, American Muslims vote, pay taxes, work, and live here too. The same goes for American Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Satanists, etc. But like I just said to Saturn, remember that it's not my religion or political "side" that's pushing this stuff.
You and the moderate Muslims are the silent majority who are simply hiding away while the debates about radical Islam rages on. Thankyou for speaking up.
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: SaturnFX
bro, its fake news. The article that was posted is from February, and there is nothing on the radar from anybody else outside of the article by a contributing editor utilizing some anonymous inside leak and has very little editorial credentials or published experience in the last eight years.
originally posted by: SaturnFX
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SaturnFX
...and?
Wait a minute...
Are you saying that lifting a prohibition on religious organizations opposing or supporting a political candidate will lead to sharia law? Maybe a Christian theocracy?
No. The refusal to criticize Islam, to satire Islam, and to oppose Islamism leads to Sharia law.
It could, yes
with great money from a global economy pushing into the US to support candidates that will persue religious based influence, then over time this cancer will grow.
the catholic church is dying, islam is rising, and the influence is pushing in hard into the west.
So the idea that it is now cool for religion to support (financially) directly politicians will have effects.
You are a clever man, sometimes I agree with your stance, sometimes oppose. Tell me how this isn't a bad thing. I actually trust your judgment (even when I deem it at times different in conclusion)
What kind of presence is the USCMO going to have on the American political scene? Investor’s Business Daily noted that “USCMO also aims to elect Islamists in Washington, with the ultimate objective of ‘institutionalizing policies’ favorable to Islamists–that is, Shariah law.”