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Leaked Draft of Trump’s Religious Freedom Order Reveals Sweeping Plans to Legalize Discrimination

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posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

its good to destroy a lot of old traditions that were based small wiener mindsets.


Says who?

Who chooses which traditions can now be destroyed? Nancy Pelosi? Maxine Waters? Donald Trump? You? CNN polls?




posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:06 AM
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I think the job for the future will legal aides instead of medical or tech aides. We will all be in court against our government and against each other. MAGA!!!! It will be Great!



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: yeahsurexxx
My sentiments exactly. Some types of people simply just want to make a scene because well they are starved for attention which is why some of them are the way they are to begin with.

Look at me!!! Hey, look over here at me!!! Why arent you looking at me?!?!?! DISCRIMINAAATIOOOOOOOONNNN!!!!!!

All the while, the competing business nearby says "hey man im looking, come over here im good, I will serve you. hey whats going on??? Why are you still making a scene, I said I'll take care of you. Why aren't you listening??? I would be glad to have your business! Hmm,.... I guess they just want attention."

In a nutshell, this is exactly what I see in many of these cases.

But this is most likely fake news anyways, so people should not get worked up over it.
This is the scan of the alleged leaked draft. Mind you, this story was printed 3 months ago, and yet, still there is nothing going on about it.
files.abovetopsecret.com...
edit on 5-3-2017 by worldstarcountry because: adding the alleged leaked document



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

A better question is can gays discriminate against straights.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: Sublimecraft

its good to destroy a lot of old traditions that were based small wiener mindsets.


Says who?

Who chooses which traditions can now be destroyed? Nancy Pelosi? Maxine Waters? Donald Trump? You? CNN polls?

We the people.

Politicians aren't born into office. they represent the people who elected them to push for the decisions.
we have been destroying discrimination for about a century now in various forms.

If this bill is a thing and reaches the light of day, expect an explosion from even moderate left, centerist, and center right to come down hard on this.

The cake baking thing is open for debate. This isn't a religious act, this is freaking chickfilet saying get out to the jews (christian organization, you get the point)

This is going to be such a misfire it will be used as a albatross to paint the right wing for years to come



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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Oh great another "leaked" document without any verification if it's even real. The Wikileaks CIA documents were mostly ignored but this has to be the real deal of course. Give me a f#cking break. Spying on there own citzens nah who cares but religious freedom is way more important. Some people have very strange priorities as it seems.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: dfnj2015

A better question is can gays discriminate against straights.

Given the state of universities, why wouldn't they simply state they are now through a recognized religion of progressivism, not giving out scholarships to cis white males.

no doctors for your kind anymore.
that would make for interesting debate on here.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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To keep the government out of my conscience is a good thing. No one should be legally bound to operate against his conscience. That isn't the government's decision.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: TheTory
To keep the government out of my conscience is a good thing. No one should be legally bound to operate against his conscience. That isn't the government's decision.


For what it's worth, I hope the mods give you an applause for that response - outstanding!



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: usernameconspiracy

You need to stop pulling your punches and really let us know how your feel.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: olaru12




If signed, the order would create wholesale exemptions for people and organizations who claim religious objections to same-sex marriage, premarital sex, abortion, and trans identity.


Guess Trump haters never read the RFRA.

Religous Freedom Restoration Act signed in to law many years ago by guess who ?

TRUMP HATERS themselves.

And for the record.

The first does say congress shall make no law establishing or abridging the free exercise of.

Furthermore.

The 14th amendment doubled down on those two.

That gives people the right to life,LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness.

So HATERS GONNA HATE.

Not a damn thing anyone can do about it.




posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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Discrimination is already legal in the US. Sometimes, it's even supported or mandated by the government, as in the case of Affirmative Action. The same people who complain about discrimination against some groups are perfectly fine with discriminating against others.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
I wonder when segregation and slavery will return to the USA.


The Bible clearly is favorable with slavery.

Ephesians 5:22-24 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. Wives, you are your husbands property just as you belong to the Lord.

Exodus 21:20-21 If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men.

2:18 Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. If your master tells you to bend over, then do so and smile.

Leviticus 25:44-45 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:40 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015




The Bible clearly is favorable with slavery.


So is the Qu'ran.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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Well, this has good points and bad points. It would protect the interests of strict christians and Muslims the most. For the majority of Christians it will not make much difference, but it does protect the rights of all religions. As long as this is not abused it probably will be a good thing.....but we all know that is not possible.....there will always be some who abuses things.

I think this new law just tries to clarify things and reinforce some of the rights we already have..



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: dfnj2015




The Bible clearly is favorable with slavery.


So is the Qu'ran.


Muslims will not have to serve women unless they are wearing a burka. Now that's MAGA!


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posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: yeahsurexxx
a reply to: SaturnFX

Then you take your money and go to the next place. Problem?

nice 50s attitude.

we dont serve trans people = we dont serve gay people, or we dont serve men/women. we dont serve blacks.
Gender dysphoria happens to a (small) section of the population. Yes, there are transtrenders now, the whole 83 genders thing, etc, but there are a core that is legit and this is basically saying its cool to not serve them (any business, church, restaurant, hospital, etc) because you dont like how they were born.

This is ammo for the jackass antifa movement. Expect if this is a thing and it passes, their numbers to swell to a full blown movement with a endless supply of numbers due to suddenly having legit arguments outside of just not liking the election results.

Problem? yeah, there is gonna be a giant one from what I see...not to mention going to such an extreme will mean in 2020 a overcompensation will happen in the other direction.


When I was younger, the guys I knew would get together and play penny poker. We had the right to say no women, they distracted us from the game. The law should be altered to be able to deny women playing cards.....until the people get older anyway. Our Pinnacle group has evolved, it is half women now, I am the youngest at sixty one. If we want to have enough teams so we aren't playing each other every week, we needed to get women involved. They live longer in general. Eighty year old women are not very distracting either, they don't wear shorts and halter tops.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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a reply to: rickymouse

The guy across the street is a staunch Republican. He's a retired local police officer living high off the hog with his HUGE pension after only 20 years. He's living the life of Reilly. He's very outspoken and against ALL forms of socialism. He just can't stand it when taxes are taken from one person to be giving to someone else. Well anyway, he's ultra conservative and very much against all things homosexual.

And then, wait for it....

His daughter turn out to be gay!!! And now he has done complete about face. WT-EFFF!!! He's now all pro-gay. I guess when it's other people's daughters let the cannons fly.



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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Can you imagine the Happy dancing over at the DNC.

It's almost as if the GOP wants to lose in 18.



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posted on May, 3 2017 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
Can you imagine the Happy dancing over at the DNC.

It's almost as if the GOP wants to lose in 18.



Never going to happen. The gerrymandering after the 2010 census guarantees Republican control of the House until the next round of gerrymandering goes the other way.


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