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20 new science papers find climate driven by solar changes

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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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The Arctic ocean, the Antarctic ocean, alongside other areas in the Pacific, Atlantic ocean, etc, have also been experiencing an increase in geothermal activity.

False.




posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse




The Arctic ocean, the Antarctic ocean, alongside other areas in the Pacific, Atlantic ocean, etc, have also been experiencing an increase in geothermal activity.

False.


can u supply the sources for this so we can further the knowledge contained within this thread.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 05:59 PM
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a reply to: TheScale
You want evidence of a negative?

Why not ask the person who made the claim for evidence that there has been an increase in geothermal activity? You know, the person who claimed there is only one way deep waters can be warmed. The person who, apparently, does not understand thermohaline circulation.

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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 06:57 PM
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Whats your interpretation of the following plot?

HADCRUT 3 Unadjusted Global Mean data 1994-

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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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Apparently said member(s) have a serious problem understanding the difference between a measurement for cooking and otherwise. They seem to have assumed that because there is a scientific paper that advertises confirmation of a phenomena but is biased by measurement problems.

IMHO said member(s) did not seem to comprehend that even a Principal is not fixed.

Best information presents that we should convert all commercial aircraft to Batteries as we have with Trains and some cars as soon as humanly possible.

The same would apply to cars.

In relation to this issue the real problems relate to modern technologies ability. To compensate for a population of 9.5 billion people in 150 years. About 1.7 live in the Western Hemisphere and the rest live in the Eastern Hemisphere.



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 07:15 PM
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The reasoning that applies to the conclusion as to why Gravity theory is still a theory seems to elude us and generally speaking.


Any thoughts?


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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 07:29 PM
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Whats your interpretation of the following plot?
It would seem to include the 1998 El Nino event but does not include the 2016 event.That noted, it seems to show a rise in temperatures from 1994 to 2014.

You are aware that HADCRUT3 has been shown to be obsolete due to problems with sea surface temperatures? And that it is not the only global temperature model?



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheScale
You want evidence of a negative?

Why not ask the person who made the claim for evidence that there has been an increase in geothermal activity? You know, the person who claimed there is only one way deep waters can be warmed. The person who, apparently, does not understand thermohaline circulation.


because for one i didnt even read that post. if i had id ask for it aswell. why get so defensive? im not trying to attack u just looking for as much info as possible



posted on May, 13 2017 @ 07:49 PM
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I'm aware of what they did with HadCRUT 4.
Anyways, here's HadCRUT4 1994 - 2015


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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 08:15 PM
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HadCRUT4

Update: Version HadCRUT.4.5.0.0 is now available. Release notes for this version can be found here.
HadCRUT4 is a gridded dataset of global historical surface temperature anomalies relative to a 1961-1990 reference period. Data are available for each month since January 1850, on a 5 degree grid. The dataset is a collaborative product of the Met Office Hadley Centre and the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia.
Brief description of the data


The gridded data are a blend of the CRUTEM4 land-surface air temperature dataset and the HadSST3 sea-surface temperature (SST) dataset. The dataset is presented as an ensemble of 100 dataset realizations that sample the distribution of uncertainty in the global temperature record given current understanding of non-climatic factors affecting near-surface temperature observations. This ensemble approach allows characterization of spatially and temporally correlated uncertainty structure in the gridded data, for example arising from uncertainties in methods used to account for changes in SST measurement practices, homogenization of land station records and the potential impacts of urbanization.

The HadCRUT4 data are neither interpolated nor variance adjusted.


www.metoffice.gov.uk...






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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 11:11 PM
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posted on May, 13 2017 @ 11:48 PM
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Of course correlation is not causation...



Figure 2. Correspondence of cold periods and solar minima from 1500 to 2000 AD. Each of the five solar minima was a time of sharply reduced global temperatures (blue areas).
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posted on May, 17 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ElectricUniverse




The Arctic ocean, the Antarctic ocean, alongside other areas in the Pacific, Atlantic ocean, etc, have also been experiencing an increase in geothermal activity.

False.


LOL...right Phage... Even when there is evidence, and there is mention of increase geothermal activity heating the deep oceans, which have long been insulated from surface temperatures you want to claim "it cannot be from increased geothermal activity".

I wonder what would happen when the Earth's iron jet stream triples in speed and what it would do to geothermal activity as well as seismic activity... Have you ever shaken a bottle of soda and then opened it up?... no?...



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 10:03 PM
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West Antarctica is also hemorrhaging ice due to climate change, and recent studies have suggested there is no way to reverse the retreat of West Antarctic glaciers. However, the timing of this retreat is still in question, Schroeder said — it could take hundreds of years, or thousands. It's important to understand which, given that meltwater from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet contributes directly to sea level rise.

Scientists use computer models to try to predict the future of the ice sheet, but their lack of understanding of subglacial geothermal energy has been a glaring gap in these models. Measuring geothermal activity under the ice sheet is so difficult that researchers usually just enter one, uniform estimate for the contributions of geothermal heat to melting, Schroeder said.


www.livescience.com...



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 10:35 PM
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a reply to: Kashai

Do you have any comment on this article?

Whats your thoughts on it?



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 10:39 PM
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Actually it seems obvious to me you(s) have a measurement problem.



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 10:45 PM
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What is your point by saying there's a measurement problem?

I'd agree with you, the science is far from settled, there are measurement problems.



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 11:08 PM
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You would need to review this thread....




posted on May, 12 2017 @ 03:30 PM

No, Volcanoes Are Not the Primary Cause For the Melting Ice Caps




posted on May, 5 2017 @ 02:50 AM

Date: August 14, 2007
Source: Cornell University




posted on May, 5 2017 @ 04:32 AM

The divergence problem is unprecedented, unique to the last few decades, indicating its cause may be anthropogenic.




posted on May, 6 2017 @ 01:27 AM

As geochemist James Lawrence Powell continues to prove, the only people still debating whether or not climate change is “real,” and caused by human activity, are the ones who aren’t doing the actual research




posted on May, 6 2017 @ 10:43 PM

Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased markedly in industrial times; measurements in year 2010 at Cape Grim Tasmania and the South Pole both indicated values of 386 ppmv, and are currently increasing at about 2 ppmv/year.




posted on May, 8 2017 @ 12:46 AM

NOAA tide gauge coastal sea level rise data measurements encompassing the 46 year period from 1970 through 2016 do not support and in fact clearly contradict the UN IPCC AR5 WG1 conclusion regarding supposed man made contributions to increasing rates of sea level rise since the early 1970s.




posted on May, 8 2017 @ 02:03 AM

A January 2017 NOAA report suggests a range of rise of 0.3 – 2.5 m possible during the 21st century




posted on May, 8 2017 @ 11:00 PM

A study from 2014 investigated the most common climate engineering methods and concluded they are either ineffective or have potentially severe side effects and cannot be stopped without causing rapid climate change.


Any thoughts?



posted on May, 17 2017 @ 11:33 PM
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Planet Earth experienced a global climate shift in the late 1980s on an unprecedented scale, fuelled by anthropogenic warming and a volcanic eruption, according to new research published this week.


www.sciencedaily.com...



Between January 1st, 1991 and November 9, 2012 there has been 13,950 peer-reviewed scientific articles on climate change with a total of 33,690 authors (rounded up in the figure below).

A study has shown that of all these articles, only 24 deny anthropogenic climate change with a total of 34 authors, roughly 1 in 1000.


www.climate-change-guide.com...


Seven Answers to Climate Contrarian Nonsense


www.scientificamerican.com...



Discussion and Consequences

This paper discussed the evidence for the anthropogenic increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration and the effect of CO2 on climate, finding that this anthropogenic increase is proven beyond reasonable doubt and that a mass of evidence points to a CO2 effect on climate of 3°C ±1.5°C global warming for a doubling of concentration. (This is the classic IPCC range; my personal assessment is that, in the light of new studies since the IPCC Third Assessment Report, the uncertainty range can now be narrowed somewhat to 3°C ± 1°C.) This is based on consistent results from theory, models, and data analysis, and, even in the absence of any computer models, the same result would still hold based on physics and on data from climate history alone. Considering the plethora of consistent evidence, the chance that these conclusions are wrong has to be considered minute.[.ex]

www.pik-potsdam.de...



posted on May, 20 2017 @ 03:55 AM
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Good studies, and far more sensible than the nonsense ideas that we can effect the climate globally. It's the sun, and we aren't changing that!! All the GW, CC hoopla is for control, funding, and scare tactics.



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