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How bout that spending bill?

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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Krazysh0t

By not signing a spending bill, thus giving Trump the power to get funding for things Obama was against.

What is so hard to understand about it?

Trump should have had no say whatsoever until the new fiscal year.


Which spending bill did Obama not sign exactly?
Senate passes funding bill, Obama signs into law
Dated Dec 10, 2016
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: EternalShadow

I already answered that question, but the answer is a bit misleading. It wasn't just the Democrats who were Socialist in the early 1900's. The Republicans were Socialist too. What do you think the New Deal was exactly?


A compromise but not a surrender of our form of government.

Either way, surprisingly, our form of government survives...as of late, left and right are merely headlines for the numb headed.

Bread and circus.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: EternalShadow
A compromise but not a surrender of our form of government.

Just stop. You know damn well that the New Deal was Socialist in nature.


Either way, surprisingly, our form of government survives...as of late, left and right are merely headlines for the numb headed.

Bread and circus.

Our government survives because moderatism prevailed. Not Populism. Not Socialism. Moderatism. That's because this country has traditionally been ran by moderates who compromised their positions. Not extremists who didn't agree with anything but themselves. So the moderates re-hijacked the government when it became obvious that the extremists were a bunch of numb nuts who couldn't get anything done and thus allowed us to maintain the status quo.
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Krazysh0t

By not signing a spending bill, thus giving Trump the power to get funding for things Obama was against.

What is so hard to understand about it?

Trump should have had no say whatsoever until the new fiscal year.


Which spending bill did Obama not sign exactly?
Senate passes funding bill, Obama signs into law
Dated Dec 10, 2016


Did you even read your source?

That was an extension through April, not a bill for the entire fiscal year Obama was responsible for.

April is over, in case you haven't noticed, but the fiscal year is not.




The U.S. Senate passed legislation on Friday to fund the government through April...

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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Moving the goal posts back are you? You said this:

By not signing a spending bill,

Now you are saying that this spending bill that Obama signed doesn't count because it wasn't the full year.

April is over, in case you haven't noticed, but the fiscal year is not.

Yes. Hence the bill we are discussing in the OP. The one that is basically another Obama spending bill. Just slightly more conservative than the previous one.
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:41 PM
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The bottom line is the dems were hoping for and counting on a shutdown to make the Trump administration appear incapable of running the country.

The dems failed to get their shutdown and the Trump adminstration took the moral high ground. Trump compromised and passed a bipartisan bill (that only matters for five months).

Trump now has more leverage for FY2018 and will make the dems look bad if they fail to compromise as he did.
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
The bottom line is the dems were hoping for a shutdown and make the Trump administration appear incapable of running the country.

The dems failed to get their shutdown and the Trump adminstration took the moral high ground and passed a bipartisan bill (that only matters for five months).

Trump now has more leverage for FY2018 and will make the dems look bad if they fail to compromise as he did.

Lol. The "bottom line"? You are making this farce up on the spot too. Just like the lie that Obama didn't sign a spending bill you told earlier. At no point did any Democrats say they wanted a government shutdown. The goal was NEVER to shut the government down. It was to block Trump's policies. Which the Dems succeeded in doing in spades.

Seriously, I think you just make stuff up so you don't have to swallow bad news you don't like. That way you can spin it so you don't have to shake your fragile worldview.
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Project much?



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance




Trump now has more leverage for FY2018 and will make the dems look bad if they fail to compromise as he did.



What? Trump doesn't see it as a compromise. He see's it as betrayal and has gone insane. If the Republicans are smart, they will put as much distance between themselves and the Trump WH as possible.

www.rawstory.com...
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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Project much?


Lie much?



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Sure. I made it all up.

Mulvaney: Democrats Wanted a Shutdown


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posted on May, 2 2017 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: Deny Arrogance

So let me get this straight. You are quoting a bunch of Republicans on the desires of Democrats? Class, can we say STRAWMAN?



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: peter_kandra

Trump dropped the ball. Plain and simple. Yes. The GOP are retreating, but that is because the proposals that Trump demands are outrageous, he's inconsistent in his message, and he doesn't help develop policy. In other words, Trump didn't help so the GOP's demands fell apart.

And keep in mind, the GOP are in CHARGE, they shouldn't be in retreat. The Democrats shouldn't even have the kind of power to get this kind of victory. What happened here is a good old fashioned political ass whooping. By the minority party nonetheless.


The GOP are not in charge. A senate majority does not put a party in charge unless it is a super majority.
This bill requires 60 votes to pass. Therefore no one is in charge. In fact, the Democrats just needed to stick together to block any and all proposals from Trump or any of the GOP.
Perhaps before getting over excited and making this all about Trump, you should take the time to understand how your own government works.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: UKTruth

Most lefties tend to have an incredibly poor understanding of how things work.

Mostly due to them quickly acting and thinking on emotion.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: MysticPearl
a reply to: UKTruth

Most lefties tend to have an incredibly poor understanding of how things work.

Mostly due to them quickly acting and thinking on emotion.


Sure seems like a mad rush to blame Trump clouds their judgement.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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The $1-trillion deal to keep the government open through September


does that mean that they raised the debt ceiling by 1 trillion for 6 months? if so that means they will have to raise the debt ceiling by 2 trillion every year (how long can they keep doing that before the country goes bankrupt?) until they decide to start making cuts or raising taxes significantly.

I guess they have come around to trumps way of thinking about the debt, it`s only money and we don`t have to pay it back we can negotiate a favorable repayment plan after we declare bankruptcy, maybe pay back 10 cents for every dollar we borrowed.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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two sides of the same coin.

Nothing will ever change.. Enjoy being ruled by globalists for the rest of your lives. Politics is a f# scam. Sick and tired of all the takers in this country.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
By the way. This isn't a thread just to gloat about the Democrats putting on the beat down on Trump despite being the minority party. Oh no. Thanks to this underwhelming performance from the "King of the Deals", the Democrats now have a road map to beat Trump. It seems like all you need to do to get Congress to work together, is to ignore Donald Trump.


Trump then is an absolute genius. You are missing the sublime power of his leadership. The sheer depth of his 3D chess playing capability. Just imagine for one moment what you just said, "get Congress to work together". It's breathtakingly stunning!!!! Trump may be the very best president ever in history to pull this off!!!!!


Just looking at your avatar, it's quite plain that you are talking out of your a...nether regions. Did it never occur to you that a deal of Republicans themselves think that the wall is the brainchild of a dickhead..in their opinion that is.



posted on May, 2 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Gothmog
You dont know an awful lot about US politics , do you ?

Oh please DO explain how I'm wrong here. I'm so anxiously awaiting you to school me in the things I don't know about politics that make this good for the Republicans and bad for the Democrats.

The first step is not getting your political outlook and information from Pinhead Pelosi...
Which is exactly where the thread originated from



posted on May, 3 2017 @ 06:31 AM
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a reply to: UKTruth
I understand COMPLETELY how the government works. I also understand how power works within Congress. The majority party, backed by the President should have greater sway on policy than the minority party. That SHOULD mean that the bill just passed would have included many of the things I listed in the OP. You can pretend like I don't understand government, but you don't even understand the point I'm making.



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