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originally posted by: PRSpinster
a reply to: PuRe EnErGy
Bro, if you aren't on the square, then you don't understand. There is a reason why you study the degrees and you do so in order. To take certain instruction properly you begin and you end in order. Here, you have clearly picked up pieces of their truth and used it in conjunction with your beliefs, not how it was written. That is incomplete thought and faulty work. I'm going to flag the thread bc I want to come back to it but no star for you...not that it matters. Js.
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InGen 1, God creates plants, then animals, and then simultaneously creates man and woman. In Gen 2, God creates a human, plants, then animals, and later he divides the human into female and male. Additionally, the two stories employ different names for the deity. The first account uses the Hebrew word Elohim, meaning “God,” whereas the second uses the tetragrammaton, YHWH (often represented by “Lord”).
Deuteronomy 32:8-9
"When Elyon (Most High) allotted peoples for inheritance,...
When He divided up the Sons of Adam,...
He fixed the boundaries for peoples,...
According to the number of the Bene Elohim (Sons of El).
But YHWH’s portion is His people;
Jacob (Israel), His own inheritance."
originally posted by: PuRe EnErGy
originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: PuRe EnErGy
Actually,..... this only proves that the Judeo-Christian foundations were built upon the Canaanite Religion. El has 70 Sons, and according to Isaiah 14, Heylel would be one of them.
Now, if we read verses 13 & 14 of Isaiah chapter 14, we discover that the chapter is referencing Baal Hadad, which is evident by the chapter's description of Heylel usurping El, his desire to be like Elyon, and the inclusion of "Mount Zaphon", i.e.; Baal-Zephon. All of this perfectly mirrors the Baal Cycle.
I'm sorry but you're missing EVERYTHING before the OT....
It's like having a conversation with someone who hasn't read a book, .... about the book.
originally posted by: PuRe EnErGy
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PuRe EnErGy
originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: PuRe EnErGy
"So how does this have to do with Hiram Abiff? ... I don't quite know"
If you don't know how your thread relates to Hiram Abiff, why would you present your thread with a title directly equating Hiram Abiff with Jesus and Lucifer?
Cherry picking a simple statement does no good, I said RIGHT after how I thought it related... there are certain similarities between the two and belief by Masons themselves that lead to that conclusion.
I said I don't quite know, BECAUSE I'M NOT A FREEMASON.
if there is anything specific you want to know, just ask. We can rustle up Ksig to provide answers. (we sent him to all the best schools)
Who's we.... and how is this funny or comical? .. it's not.
Provide answers? .. I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PuRe EnErGy
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: PuRe EnErGy
originally posted by: Sahabi
a reply to: PuRe EnErGy
"So how does this have to do with Hiram Abiff? ... I don't quite know"
If you don't know how your thread relates to Hiram Abiff, why would you present your thread with a title directly equating Hiram Abiff with Jesus and Lucifer?
Cherry picking a simple statement does no good, I said RIGHT after how I thought it related... there are certain similarities between the two and belief by Masons themselves that lead to that conclusion.
I said I don't quite know, BECAUSE I'M NOT A FREEMASON.
if there is anything specific you want to know, just ask. We can rustle up Ksig to provide answers. (we sent him to all the best schools)
Who's we.... and how is this funny or comical? .. it's not.
Provide answers? .. I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.
Really sorry to offend. I just thought if you wanted to know something specific about masonry, you might want to ask a mason. There are a few of us here. Hence the use of "we". If you are happy learning about freemasonry from imagination, that's cool too. "WE" are happy to help if we can.
Have a nice day.
originally posted by: Ekwensu
a reply to: PuRe EnErGy
I dont believe Hiram is Lucifer, well, im pretty convinced he isnt. You have to consider though, most of the American freemasons believes in the stories they are given.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dantanna
You're a follower of some "true" church, I assume?
You know they kept their sermons in Latin up until very late in the middle ages to keep the true story as far away from the peasents as possible and until this day, you wouldn't understand a single word if two people actually studying and devoting their lifes to theology talk.
And they were internationalist? Don't you maybe mean occupying forces? And in that line of thought wouldn't jesus in modern days be a Jihadi?
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power.
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
As an American mason you rejected the Bible.
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: KingSombra
As an American mason you rejected the Bible.
As a person with reason, I accept the Bible as a collection of stories meant to teach moral lessons. Much like masonry.
And If I ever get to the uber super 33rd, I'll be sure to pat Lucifer on the ass once for you. Though it still just amazes me that you could know more about that subject than I. You must be a real class act.