originally posted by: WhiteWingedMonolith
originally posted by: dragonridr
originally posted by: Raggedyman
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: Sillyolme
I was raised a Catholic I'm sixty and this aliens are demons belief is not a widely accepted concept of the church and in fact is a very very new age
idea not part of any belief system except conspiracy theorists.
See, that's why the Catholic Church would rather you not read the Bible. Casting demons and healing people were how Jesus and his disciples made
their living. Read through the Gospel of Mark and check out where Jesus even says he's calling on the demon Be'elzebub to help him do his miracles.
"Divide and conquer" he calls it, but basically he's a sorcerer.
That whole notion of "be more like Jesus" takes on a whole different aspect with that in the equation.
In the Gospel of Mark, you sure?
Maybe in your head...
I think he meant mathew and he doesnt realise this was said by the Pharisees to attack Christ. In Luke you get Jesus response to this attack. Funny
people make arguments who clearly never read the bible.
All anyone needs to read is the Book of John and then close it. When needed of a reminder, back to the Book of John. It's really quite simple. But
that's just me I guess.
Revelation 12 (NIV) Please don't say you have read it many times! Read it NOW with keeping in mind the stars are several bullion trillions...and then
the whole picture of the wider world created by God will be crystal clear, although we gaze at one particle of it.
The Woman and the Dragon
12 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2 She was
pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. 3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten
horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of
the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will
rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. 6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a
place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8 But he was not strong
enough, and they lost their place in heaven. 9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole
world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.
So...whoa re the countless stars that 1/3 go after Satan/dragon (draconians)? They are quite many aren't they. Mighty civilizations might be there for
sure. As the draconians themselves are, according to all insiders.
Then...who is the Manchild? No it is not Jesus the baby, who grew up and died and resurrected. The manchild is another personage. So are the 144,000
in ch.14. (Is the manchild a combined image of all that, IDK).
If you keep reading and analyzing every single piece, you will realize that even if there were many wars in space/heaven (including the war that threw
satan out of heaven) the described war in Revelation 12 starts only after the rapture of the manchild! And includes all those star systems who follow
Then, the woman runs into the desert only AFTER the War in space/heaven ENDS. Before that, the dragon is not interested in persecuting the woman, that
is VERY STRANGE! He could eat up the woman while she is pregnant, instead he prefers to wait the birth (spiritual or physical). Why, if he could kill
both the mother and the manchild? Because he wants to SEDUCE the manchild to convert him to the Dark side. Pretty much the way the Emperor wanted to
seduce Luke Skywalker! That means to "eat up" the manchild as soon as he is birthed (or should we say anointed). That's why the rapture of the
manchild only, because he is in danger only. Not the woman, not before the end of the war in space. And the war in space could prolong more than blink
of an eye.
The persecution of the woman on earth, the remnants of her offspring Rev 12:17 who have a WAR with the dragon (that implies pretty powerful earth
force to even try fighting the draconians) are questions that should be investigated thoroughly. Not in one post or by one person only.
All that should be investigated thru the point of view of someone who is in Space. Not from earthly point of view. It will be futile. The Revelation
12 drama develops in near earth space, may be on moon orbit (the feet of the woman stand on the moon while she is clothed with the sun). Perhaps, a
large spaceship? IDK. But to get the picture real one should put himself into the space viewpoint, with all available info of ET insiders as of
draconians and benevolent aliens. Not the viewpoint of the people around John in 1st century. Unfortunately, the theologians are the first ones who
screw it up and offer Absurd interpretations, to say the least.
Let start to read the Bible and the Revelation in modern terms!
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