From President's Bush's State or the Union Address...
"Our government will continue to support faith-based and community groups that bring hope to harsh places. Now we need to focus on giving young
people, especially young men in our cities, better options than apathy, or gangs, or jail.
Tonight I propose a three-year initiative to help organizations keep young people out of gangs, and show young men an ideal of manhood that respects
women and rejects violence. Taking on gang life will be one part of a broader outreach to at-risk youth, which involves parents and pastors, coaches
and community leaders, in programs ranging from literacy to sports. And I am proud that the leader of this nationwide effort will be our First Lady,
Laura Bush. "
Gee, I wonder if this plan involves the Promise Keepers.
"and show young men an ideal of manhood that respects women and rejects violence."
Sounds like the Promise keepers to me.....but just what do they teach, is it really respect for women and the rejection of violence?
"While Promise Keepers is not a political force in its own right in 1995, McCartney leads by example. He has repeatedly attacked reproductive rights,
and he campaigned for the 1992 anti-gay Amendment 2 ballot initiative as a member of the board of Colorado for Family Values, the sponsor of the
initiative. His rally addresses have been uncompromising. "Take the nation for Jesus Christ," he directed in 1992. The following year he said,
"What you are about to hear is God's word to the men of this nation. We are going to war as of tonight. We have divine power; that is our weapon. We
will not compromise. Wherever truth is at risk, in the schools or legislature, we are going to contend for it. We will win."
No less militant is Promise Keepers co-founder Dave Wardell, who told The Denver Post, "We want our nation to return to God. We're drawing a line in
the sand here. . . . There has already been controversy about abortion and homosexuality. I hope there won't be any physical confrontations. . . . "
I can hear you saying, 'I want to be a spiritually pure man. Where do I start?' The first thing you do"is sit down with your wife and say something
like this: 'Honey I've made a terrible mistake. I've given you my role. I gave up leading this family, and I forced you to take my place. Now I
must reclaim that role.' Don't misunderstand what I'm saying here. I'm not suggesting that you ask for your role back, I'm urging you to take it
back."--Evangelist Tony Brown. Brown also insists that there is to be "no compromise on authority," and he suggests that women submit for the
"survival of our culture."
While serving as an assistant football coach at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, Bill McCartney encountered and was deeply influenced by the
Word of God (WOG) community. McCartney has said that
WOG leader Jim Berlucci is one of the two men who most influenced his life. WOG, a select and insular group of about 1,600 adults, practiced
"shepherding/discipleship," which required total submission to a person called the "head." Members were required to submit their schedules in
advance and account for every hour of every day. Marriage partner, movie choices, jobs, and other decisions also had to be approved by this leader.
Members who questioned authority, or women who questioned their extreme submission to men, were subject to often traumatic "exorcisms." WOG members
were trained to see the world with suspicion and contempt--as an enemy. They believed that they were specially chosen by God to fight the Antichrist.
When McCartney was hired by the University of Colorado, WOG introduced him to the WOG-linked "Vineyard" church, which has a parish in Boulder.
Vineyard churches emphasize "signs and wonders" and "prophecy." Vineyard leader John Wimber calls their work "power evangelism" and describes
his followers as "self-conscious members of God's army, sent to do battle against the forces of the kingdom of darkness." "One is either in God's
Kingdom," Wimber insists, "or Satan's."
" "One is either in God's Kingdom," Wimber insists, "or Satan's."" kind of sound like Bush's you're either with use or against us bit,
And, well, here's some info that, if true, is really quite alarming.
The Promise Keepers experiment was begun on 70 Colorado men in 1990. About 4000 turned out to rallies in 1991. As attendance grew to 22,000 in 1992,
the project leaders arranged for the writing of a bizarre book intended to mold the emotions and self-conception of their now-growing mass following.
Masculine Journey was written for the Promise Keepers by Lt Col. Robert Hicks, a military expert in religious terrorism. It was published in 1993
under the supervision of Hicks's Air Force colleague, Gen. Jerry White. a specialist in military mobilization, military police, and electronic
security. General White is the longtime chairman of a military ministry group, "The Navigators." whose NaviPress published the book, and a companion
study guide for Promise Keepers (PK) psychological trainers.
Hicks's book was distributed to every one of the 50.000 men who assembled for the first PK mass rally, held at the University of Colorado's Folsom
Field. This free distribution was unique, since PK usually charges its men high prices for group clothing items, worship accessories, and commercial
aids to male bonding.
Promise Keepers then mass-marketed Masculine Journey, and its study guide, through 1994, when about 275,000 people came to PK rallies, and 1995, when
attendance hit 725,000.
By 1995, the Hicks book had come under increasing criticism. Promise Keepers stopped publicly selling the book, but they continued to endorse it for
their inductees, who buy it from NavIpress.
Masculine Journey to Sodom
Under veneer of Bible chapter and verse citations, Masculine Journey is pagan psychological manipulation, akin to the New Age pornographic training
that shaped the lesbian and Wiccan upsurges of the 1960s. Its techniques are congruent with those developed by the British military and intelligence
services through the Tavistock psychiatric institute, a pivotal agency in introducing the drug-rock-sex counterculture to the USA. The author, Lt Col.
Robert Hicks, is an intelligence community professional in the field of post-traumatic shock. The Tavistock Institute, pioneer in this field, viewed
public shocks such as the Vietnam War and the 1960s' multiple assassinations, as the opportunity to radically alter the philosophy of the American
population. The current societal breakdown, with the stimulus of PK Nurrmberg-style rallies. gives this mindbending a fair chance to succeed.
Hicks teaches "Religious Terrorism" to officers at the Air War University (Maxwell Air Force Base, Alabama). In that military course, be explains
the mental path that Christian Identity and other varieties of British-Israelite race cultists are induced to travel and, similarly, with Jewish
fanatics (Kach, Kahane Chai). Islamic suicide bombers and Japanese armageddonist terrorists.
His Masculine Journey complements ad competes with radical feminism, making the genitals the center of the Promise Keepers psyche. The book explains:
"Possessing a penis places unique requirements upon men before God. . . . We are called to worship God as phallic kinds of guys, not as some sort of
androgynous, neutered nonmales, or the feminized males so popular in many feminist enlightened churches. We are told by God to worship Him in
accordance with what we are, phallic men."
It it all just government propaganda in disguise?
The Cult's links to the White House, and Congress.
"Item: One of President George W. Bush's closest spiritual advisors and confidantes is the Rev. Tony Evans, a homophobic, anti-feminist,
African-American pastor at the Oak Cliff Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas. The Rev. Evans, one of the most fiery and controversial of all Promise
Keepers' speakers, once said: "I believe the feminists of the more aggressive persuasion are frustrated women unable to find the proper male
leadership. If a woman were receiving the right kind of love and attention and leadership, she would not want to be liberated from that."
At an October 1999 Promise Keepers meeting in Des Moines, Iowa, Evans stated, the "bacteria of society are causing social breakdown of the church,"
and that some churches are already suffering from "spiritual AIDS." He demanded that Christians mobilize: "Hell, everybody else is coming out of
the closet, you might as well too."
During the presidential campaign, Evans told The New York Times that Bush "believes that God has a place in government, that religion has a place in
society, and it is not to be marginalized and put on the periphery as though it is some sort of extra. There is no America without a theistic world
view." He recently, he has been the president's guest at several meetings involving Bush's faith-based initiative.
Item: In a recent extensive Washington Post profile, Rep. Tom "The Hammer" DeLay (R-Texas) claimed that the Promise Keepers had made him a kinder,
gentler Christian and politician. If what we're seeing is the kinder, gentler version of Tom DeLay… uh, you know the rest. "
I've had run-in with the promise keepers on yahoo massage boards a few years ago, they were the ones who told me I should overdose my kids with his
asthma medicine just so my husband could get a good night's sleep, even though at the time, they didn't know just what the medicine was or what
effect it would have on them. They said I should have obeyed the Bible and given my son the medicine (not knowing what it was) and "have faith"
that God would protect them....Then I told them what it was......they then began to say that I should have sat there and patiently persauded my
husband that he was wrong...(instead of tending to my son who was having an asthma attack)..when I told them I felt that was a waste of time, time
that I spent holding my son in the steamy bathroom with the hot water running full blast....well, then I was just a radical feminist, lying through
I don't want my kids being taught their idea of "respecting women" and I don't want my taxmoney paying for them to do it. And, I will allow myself
to starve to death before I pay to have my sons' morality corrupted like this, or have any grandduaghters I may have in the future degraded to such
a level of pure powerlessness just so a few men can regain a power that they beleive "God gave them"!
[edit on 3-2-2005 by dawnstar]