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The students willingly paid. No one forced them to. It was a stupid decision on their part. They should understand advertisements are all fraudulent and exaggerate the products they advertise. They should have read reviews and consulted with people who have been to Trump university before shelling out 30 grand.
If Trump wasn't elected, he would have never settled.
originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: allsee4eye
This...
The students willingly paid. No one forced them to. It was a stupid decision on their part. They should understand advertisements are all fraudulent and exaggerate the products they advertise. They should have read reviews and consulted with people who have been to Trump university before shelling out 30 grand.
I hope that's a joke?...
Fraudulent publicity is still a form of fraud. The consumer may not have access to reviews or have the chance to badger other people about it. Fraud is fraud. It's like saying, "Oh, it's okay if John Doe was robbed, it was his fault, he didn't have deterrents, let's blame John Doe and let the robbers roam free". It's the worst logic possible.
What are you trying to pull?
originally posted by: allsee4eye
Lawsuits against big corporations like these are common and frequent. The consumers who file lawsuit almost never get their money back.
The Trump university lawsuit was going nowhere. It was filed in 2010 and Trump only paid them 6 years later after he was elected. If Trump wasn't elected, he would have never settled. The students willingly paid. No one forced them to. It was a stupid decision on their part. They should understand advertisements are all fraudulent and exaggerate the products they advertise. They should have read reviews and consulted with people who have been to Trump university before shelling out 30 grand.
I never watch advertisements. I don't trust advertisements. I would never shell out 30 grand on something just because an advertisement says something advertised is the best product in the world without reading a review and consulting with people who have used that product. I'm not that stupid.
If Trump was not elected, the consumers at Trump university would have never got their money back when Trump dies of old age.
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: allsee4eye
Considering that punitive and compensatory damage payments are how most personal injury lawyers are paid I tend to believe that the statement about consumers almost never getting their money back is incorrect. Most companies want to avoid lengthy trials because they are expensive. If there is liability most will settle. If they go to trial and lose it costs them much much more than a settlement would.
Your opinion about the details of the case and the litigants is irrelevant. Whether you think they were forced or not is not doesn't matter. The case will never be decided by law.
And in the court of public opinion a settlement is an admission of guilt.
You even have strong feelings about it or you wouldn't have started this thread.
- Instead of Trump actually attending any of the seminars, attendees were often offered the opportunity to instead take a photo next to a life-size cutout.
In addition to that, the theme song from Trump's show "The Apprentice" was played at the beginning and end of each seminar.
- A special database of lenders the "University" purportedly had insider access to was actually just "a list photocopied from an issue of Scotsman Guide, a commercially available magazine," the suit says.
- Attendees were told there was a toll-free "hotline" featuring instructors taking questions about real estate investing. The complaint says no such line existed, and instructors only made themselves available to individuals who'd signed up for the "elite" version of the seminar — "and often, not even then." But, students were asked to call their credit card companies during breaks in the seminar to ask that their credit limits be raised.
- The instructors repeated the business' ad claims that they'd been hand-picked by Trump himself, when in fact none of them were. And some of the instructors came to the organization after their own failed real estate investments bankrupted them.
- The organization comes pretty close to sounding like a pyramid scheme: The "students" would first attend a free seminar enticing them into paying $1,495 for a subsequent three-day seminar where they'd learn "everything they needed to know to start investing." Instructors at the three-day seminar would instead warn they would need to purchase additional programs — ideally the $35,000 "elite" program — or they would not succeed.
- Trump pocketed more than $5 million despite insinuating he would not profit directly from the organization.