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Are you ready for Cinco de Milo?

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posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 09:38 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dragonridr

Did I miss something and am your personal history teacher? start here
Then maybe here
Or if you prefer it more simple to read and understand even wiki can be educational.
They came from all different political ideologies. Including communism, but everywhere outside the US people aren't that indoctrinated to think Karl Marx was a terrorist. That's the root of communism, if you're interested communism started as opposing force to the exploitation of workers during the industrialisation.
Oooh evil fair wage and workplace safety.
You can't look at European history through your McCarthy glasses.


Thank god your not my teacher you attempt to change history. The resistance was formed after Germans took over France. Basically the french military was defeated because of the maginot line. So the only resistance they could offer was guerrilla warfare. They were not opposing Hitlers ideology they didnt like him taking their stuff.

Now there opposition was the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) and the Socialist Party of Germany. They followed Trotskys idealogy.




Worker-Communists, you are hundreds of thousands, millions; you cannot leave for anyplace; there are not enough passports for you. Should fascism come to power, it will ride over your skulls and spines like a terrific tank. Your salvation lies in merciless struggle. And only a fighting unity with the Social Democratic workers can bring victory. Make haste, worker-Communists, you have very little time left!
Leon Trotsky


Now claiming the communists were not the one to oppose Hitlers ideology is stupid and shows a total lack of historical knowledge. And in the future before you make claims you might want to take the time to learn about the topic. Fascists opposition has always been communists.
en.wikipedia.org...(Opposition)


PS you might want to be careful who you support if you understood history. Nazi storm troopers who helped put hitler in power were later killed by him. Read the nite of the long knives. He killed them fearing that they would use the same tactics against him of intimidation and stifling free speech.
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posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

You didn't read a single link, did you? Here's another one from groups inside germany.
Just admit you're wrong and drop it.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Well, I cease to value even my own opinions when its just concepts and words involved... I will spew them sure, but I reserve judgement for actions only and have no problems with people giving Milo support and a pedestal to speak on. I may be thinking "WTF are these people here giving credit to this guy for," but, only the ones who walked away from Milo's trying to invoke the message towards my presence will be stereotyped as "one's for me to stay away from."

I find value in your words on this site... and often have. But, if I ever read that you support Milo beyond his rights of free speech, then I would certainly have to step back for a minute and provide a whole new value to your words you type... about everything, and not just Milo. A whole new value that would and should not come with any name calling and or finger pointing... the silent support would just disappear. See, only actions are subject to judgement with me... words and opinions are left as opinion only. But, I do feel it is justifiable to stereotype supporters into larger groups until debate and action can provide insight to smaller details to better be evaluated on... I personally pull back on any bit of support for Milo, as I refuse to offer any energy to support even the words of a pedophile and or pedophilia knowledge holder.

The level of sex trafficking of minors by people with 'elite' status is one of the most under scrutinized aspects of elite society. If the horrors of what elites do to children from broken homes was better exposed, I highly doubt that Milo would have any bit of a platform to speak on. it's my full belief that Milo is given a platform so the scene gets gas lit... so that people take the focus off of the political connections to sex trafficking, by putting a target on the chest of people that can personally attest to being public about their life choices and how people view them.

So, that means that political officials view Milo supporters no differently then the non supporters view Milo supporters. The very criminals steering the votes to keep influence in play, sit back and directly market to people who already support the incentives of their own. It's free advertising for criminals to put other wrong doers in the public eye and beta testing another persona before putting their own to the fires of public scrutiny. They stand up there and tell people what they would like... not what they will do. Because only a message is to come of a speech, the only realities to come of supporting anti government movements are statistical analysis (stereotyping). If people participating and or watching are involved to provide stereotyping analysis, then why on Earth would we assume that the government is not using these events for the same purposes.

Don't be surprised if Anthony Wiener support memos pop in the mail boxes of those that support Milo and speak in support of Milo. Going to a Milo rally is essentially like clicking the 'LIKE' button... don't for one second think that the support is not tracked and analyzed.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dragonridr

You didn't read a single link, did you? Here's another one from groups inside germany.
Just admit you're wrong and drop it.


Wrong again the Widerstand was mostly Hitler Youth and marxists. Your really not helping your case to you believe all resistance was ideological it was not. The people opposed to Nazis was the communists and socialists the difference between the two really is who they followed. But they could not work together and Hitler came to power. When he did he outlawed them and they had to go into hiding and became the resistance in many countries including France.

I almost feel bad for you since it appears your history knowledge stoped after high school. World war 2 was very complicated and for a large part started because the battle against communism.
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posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

...and the catholics and monarchists and the pro American swing kids which were capitalists.... this is just silly educate yourself or keep it to yourself.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:04 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

I almost feel bad for you since it appears your history knowledge stoped after high school. World war 2 was very complicated and for a large part started because the battle against communism.


What? Wow? this is what lead to ww2



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: ttobban

Agreeing with someone doesnt mean you agree with everything they have done in their life. But that being said if what he said was true than he is a despicable human being and shows a lack of morals. I watched his interview and honestly i saw someone making excuses for a time they appear to be ashamed of. Ironically he appears to be ashamed of being gay. His statement about 13 year olds appears to originate from him being 13 his first time. I think he likes to think he was an adult and it was his decision to have gay sex with an older man. Hes got demons to fight thats for sure.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:23 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple

originally posted by: dragonridr

I almost feel bad for you since it appears your history knowledge stoped after high school. World war 2 was very complicated and for a large part started because the battle against communism.


What? Wow? this is what lead to ww2



HAHA you're serious how do you think communism started? Communism started because Marx, Engels, and other communist thinkers saw problems in society due to the unequal distribution of wealth. This meant after world war 1 Germany was easy to convert to communism. Prior to Hitler the communist party controlled the government.
his happened because Germans were punished for world war one. Again your not discussing history your trying to distract. I point out your wong and you say oh yeah well look over here. i explain it to you and you go oh yeah what about this.

As you stated earlier its not my job to teach you history please educate yourself on the topic so we can have a real discussion about ideology.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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I fully agree with what you say, yet read your statements as a rebuttal... hmmm.

The sex trafficking of minors within our political system is the most vile aspect of America that is quite quick to get my blood boiling, I will admit it. With a 99.99% probability, Milo can be linked to pedophilia... whether it be personal participation and or the knowing of others who participate in the horrors of raping youth of their innocence. I am not ignorant enough though to link Milo supporters to pedophilia in any way... it stops at questioning the support for a person linked to pedophilia.

I am perfectly fine with free speech of any message or value being expressed and supported. I feel we should keep in mind though, that the right to free speech does not includes the rights to be free of scrutiny and or analysis of any free speeches... and even the supporters of the free speeches.

Free speech comes with the due diligences to not finger point at other choices and come together to complete the polar opposite debates to function as unified decision making processes. When we practice free speech, it does not end at the words... we should keep pushing back to the foundations of things to stabilize the foundation. Bickering about the concepts of free speech and climbing up the pyramid to make the cap stone look better to all ignores the fractures in the foundation. If people stop to care who supports who, than forget progress... it keeps us in the adult day care political situations we are in now.

Pedophilia practicing politicians wants us to have these elementary debates... who is ever going to focus on the actual horrors to youth if the masses are trapped into fighting each other at the moat before entry into the castle to invade could even occur.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: ttobban

I support the right for BLM to speak.
I support the right for Milo to speak.
Ann Coulter.
Bernie Sanders.
Westboro Baptist.
KKK.
People Who Place Squishy Fruit In Their Pants.

Everyone.

Sure, I support Milo and get called names.
I supported BLM and got called different names.

It's funny.

I honestly try to stay committed to the ideal that free speech is sacrosanct.

Honestly.

No foolin'.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: dragonridr

I do agree with you... the mental stability obscures proper rationalization in his case. I'm ok with those things happening and even feel bad that he had such a tormented youthful mental upbringing. I was not really bothered by his stories of the priest so much, when he mentioned to be the predator in his case. I got really disturbed when he started talking about going to elitist parties of which he seen children, even under 10 in cases, given drugs and forced into sexual encounters with adults. He told the story as if there was not major crime to be reported... he just mentioned that he was disturbed by what he seen there. But, he never was able to attach a crime to it for 2 reasons... he was given access to a secret society of players, that would likely end Milo's life if he exposed their doings, and that his mental torture in his own youth causes an inability to attach pedophilia to be the level of crime that the bulk of society in America views it as.

What Milo thinks on anything and everything is really none of my concern. In fact, I have zero clue as to how the guy even became part of the public eye. Personally, I'd take Mike Vick's dog training advice before I provided any credibility to what Milo thinks. Yeah Mike Vick has every right to speak on what he wants, but sometimes people are healed better from listening instead of preaching... I feel this applies to Milo.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: ttobban

I support the right for BLM to speak.
I support the right for Milo to speak.
Ann Coulter.
Bernie Sanders.
Westboro Baptist.
KKK.
People Who Place Squishy Fruit In Their Pants.

Everyone.

Sure, I support Milo and get called names.
I supported BLM and got called different names.

It's funny.

I honestly try to stay committed to the ideal that free speech is sacrosanct.

Honestly.

No foolin'.


And ya didn't even call them trolls like others.

They should pay attention to how it's done



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I couldn't agree more with the sanctity of free speech.

At some point in time though, and pedophilia is one of those times for me, that I feel compelled to release my reminders that we must keep in mind what type of reality shows we're clicking onto here...

Do we prefer to watch the Real House Husbands of North America, maybe a few keep ups with the Kardeucians, or one of the other multitudes of divide that Americans seemingly love and admire?

Or do we prefer to watch Ted Talks, or the words and works of the most charitable good doers in America?

I'd give anything to provide opinion that Americans as a whole prefer the latter, but as long as the Milo's of the world and the words he utters are offered credibility, beyond the scope of the offered freedoms of free speech, Americans will continue to see that the highest ratings for media followers stem from negative sources.

It's not so much the free speech of Milo that is questionable to me... it's the sponges on the other side of the words that worry me. You know, the one's asking their doctor if the stuff on TV is right for them.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: ttobban

Content of speech, relevance of speech, is something quite different.

Once we can all agree that speech is sacrosanct, then we can debate the truth, relevance, of any given topic.

Pedophilia disgusts me.
Communism, socialism, are ideologies I strongly disagree with.

However, it's impossible to debate any topic if we cobble ourselves with censorship of any type.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: neo96

I think "words" would lose some of the power we endow them if we were always able to speak freely.




posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I couldn't agree more... and that's why I always value your words here on ATS!

Sure, terms or phrases were made to make our opinions more clear, but neither you or I called each other any names for possibly thinking differently... the fact that debate is even possible and with so many options is a great gift in life to be thankful for. And low and behold, the indifference in words between us actually formulate the same conclusions... indicating the meaningless value of finger pointing, inflicting one's own free will on another, and divide.




posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: neo96



It's because of LEFTISTS I have to whip out my ID to practice my second amendment right.

BS right wingers pass more gun legislation than the left. Obama repealed so many gun laws the NRA should be calling him their best friend.

Obama Signed More Repeals of Federal Gun Policies Than Bush


More GARBAGE.

Why more than 100 gun control proposals in congress FAILED

In a word ?

Because of the RIGHT.

Read your link you will find that Republicans are joining with the Dems on passing regulation. Also your link does nothing to refute what I posted but then again it is you so I didn't expect you could prove me wrong.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: buster2010

Well B.

The National FireArms Act passed by FDR says something different.

The Gun Control Act passed by Johnson says something different.

The Assualt weapons ban passed by Clinton says something different.

The Brady handgun Prevention Act passed by Clinton AGAIN says something different.

That with a single stroke created the unconstitutional background check and force every single person in this country to show their ID and prove their innocence to the state.

So Yeah B.

Someone is EXTREMELY wrong.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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a reply to: ttobban

The reason he was relevant is he was an editor of Breitbart. The left attacked them calling them nazi and homophobic. So the gay guy on the staff stood up to defend them. I will say he tends to speak his mind. Sometimes against his own best interests as he attacks the gay community as well. So what ill say is i dont agree with everything he says but he has a unique point of view that seems to cause debate.



posted on Apr, 30 2017 @ 12:09 PM
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I'll never understand the obsession with Milo, but it is amusing seeing republicans rally around...


originally posted by: Shamrock6
The flaming gay dude of Jewish descent that loves black dick



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