Are you ready for Cinco de Milo?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien

Trolls like Milo have the First Amendment right to free speech.
That violent Antifa group is bad.

We ALL agree.

You and I agree on this. Several here are playing mental Olymplic Floor routines doing backflips to make a point that proves NEO right while believing they have 'won'.. ROFLMAO

They can't state it the way you did but they can sure show a version of ignorance as if that is going to make a logical point.

a reply to: amazing

Yeppers, Milo Yiannopoulos is in it for the fame. He is alt-right because he recognized it as the new hot trend, and because his sexual orientation makes for a nice contrast with his politics. He would have branded himself as something different if he'd thought it would have worked better.

I don't think he ever went to any pedophilia party either, lol. Just more of his antics, people are so gullible. If Milo had actually been to a party like that then he would have snitched and gone public as soon as he could. Can you imagine what a scoop it would be? He would have been praised as a hero.

I think these quotes are very telling:

“Seriously though,” I asked him by text on Inauguration Day, “if you had a choice, if you could a) live in a world of total Trump victory on the condition of never being famous at all b) partial Trump-lite victory and slightly famous c) total liberal victory and hugely famous — which one would you pick?”

“C),” he replied, seconds later. “I’m a fighter, not a lover.”

Source


Consider that for a second if you think Milo is some sort of savior.

As for the OP, I agree that he has the right to speak. Students have a right to be outraged about it too, I'm sure everyone here has people they would be mad about having to listen to in their places of work. This goes doubly for a place like Berkeley, which enjoys federal funding; in a roundabout way the establishment is endorsing Milo by letting him speak at a university. (Of course he didn't actually speak at Berkeley, I know.)

You keep saying it's simple; it's just free speech, right? But not everyone can get to speak at Berkeley, so you have to make choices no matter what. If Berkeley prevents him from speaking then they have silenced him. But if they do let him speak then they have endorsed him. There is no "neutral" option, there is no option that is categorically pro free speech, because there is a scarcity of attention to go around. If everyone got to speak, except for Milo, then it would be a different case. But the real world is more complicated than that.

But yeah, free speech is pretty important. It's part of what makes us the free world. So even troublemakers like Milo should be allowed to speak. It'll be interesting to see how much he can recover now. The cool thing about this is that he is sort of normalizing homosexuality. Milo isn't exactly "normal" but just the fact the alt-right has such a high profile gay man must have some effect.

So, let's get this correct, Milo defends Pederasty, and you defend Milo.. but, but, "Muh #PizzaGate"

a reply to: DBCowboy

So, on the 29th in Pikeville ky, the Traditional Workers Party, and the National Socialist Party (American Nazi Party) had a rally to strengthen their 'National Front', Antifa was there for the counter, no reports on it.

Now, I also ask you this, how many stories do you read about Antifa/anarchist just going around beating up random "white people" or Trump supporters?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yes, now you are getting it

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DBCowboy

I know you don't care much for facts, but here's a brief history of antifascism (antifa) in case you one day wake up and wonder which side you're actually supporting.

Lincoln was a Republican and the Klan was founded by Democrats... ANTIFA can claim to be tied to historical and legitimate citizen resistance to real fascism, but those claims are laughable and easily proven lies.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

That's only true if you look at the American antifa. But it's in origin European. Which you'd know if you would have read the link.

Resistance against Hitler, Mussolini that's where it started both fascists.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

What does that have to do with Antifa? I mean it's not about Politics (albeit political) this is what people can't seem to understand, or just more willful ignorance, Democrat, Republican, Independent, Antifa fights the 'Ideology' of fascism and those That believe in it, apologize for it, and support it. what political party you identify with has no merit.

Also, the mass majority of Antifa are anarchist.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
patriotretort.com...

The Left has chosen the hill on which they plan to fight us. And that hill the First Amendment.

They want to shut us up.

They want to shut us down.

And rather than let them succeed, Milo is taking the fight to them.

Berkeley wants to claim the mantle of the Birthplace of Free Speech.

But much like John Lewis — who clings to the title “Civil Rights Icon” despite not doing anything for the last fifty years to earn it — Berkeley clings to a fifty-year-old movement that died on that campus the moment Political Correctness was born.

Leftists are the anti-science people.

How else do you explain their complete surprise when Newton’s Third Law unfolds before their eyes?

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

And Milo Yiannopoulos — and the rest of the Conservative Counterculture — is that equal and opposite reaction.

Pushback’s a bitch, my friends.

And the bitch is back.

In keeping with my current raison d'être, I bring you Milo.

In my never-ending journey to learn, I have likened our society as under attack by a disease that is impacting free speech. I describe ANTIFA as a symptom of that disease.

If that is the case, then Milo would be the fever that accompanies the disease, a natural reaction that "the body" creates to fight and push back.

It's not always pleasant, but it is often times necessary.

I'm not all that familiar with Milo, but having seen a clip of him speaking somewhere, it's obvious that this is one very smart individual, that's also able to present his opinions in maybe the best way I've ever heard.

His way of speaking is so bereft of padding, stuttering and the usual bull# techniques politicians use, that I want to say: Bravo.

The world needs more outspoken, clear minded debaters - no matter what their stance may be.

This in sharp contrast to the "can't chew gum and ride a bike at the same time" image of the SJWs.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: DBCowboy

So, on the 29th in Pikeville ky, the Traditional Workers Party, and the National Socialist Party (American Nazi Party) had a rally to strengthen their 'National Front', Antifa was there for the counter, no reports on it.

Now, I also ask you this, how many stories do you read about Antifa/anarchist just going around beating up random "white people" or Trump supporters?

Like repels like is what we're taught in Chemistry 101.


Answers found here below on the Fascist claiming to be Antifa attacking Trump supporters:

www.thegatewaypundit.com...

www.theamericanmirror.com...

www.informationliberation.com...

More proof here X

100percentfedup.com...

rightwingnews.com...

constitution.com...

I know, I know. Those sources will never do for people who don't think for themselves..OR so I believe you think X.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: burdman30ott6

That's only true if you look at the American antifa. But it's in origin European. Which you'd know if you would have read the link.

Resistance against Hitler, Mussolini that's where it started both fascists.

Agreed, you are 100% Correct and these people here in the USA are the Fascist merely stealing the word like the Progressives did "Liberal".

a reply to: Cutepants

What does your post have to do with the question of Free speech? I don't personally think you could possible offer an honest opinion on someone being groomed/recruited to have sex with adults as Milo claims. Psychologist I am not but what I studied suggested that people with abnormal sex habits are either genetically different like a Hermaphrodite, or have been molested as a child. Do some research on the latter one you might change your opinion toward what IMHO is the truth.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: burdman30ott6

That's only true if you look at the American antifa. But it's in origin European. Which you'd know if you would have read the link.

Resistance against Hitler, Mussolini that's where it started both fascists.

You dont believe that do you? The communists were the ones to oppose Hitler. so are you claiming Anti Fa is communists? Because thats even more dangerous than fascists in my book.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: burdman30ott6

What does that have to do with Antifa? I mean it's not about Politics (albeit political) this is what people can't seem to understand, or just more willful ignorance, Democrat, Republican, Independent, Antifa fights the 'Ideology' of fascism and those That believe in it, apologize for it, and support it. what political party you identify with has no merit.

Also, the mass majority of Antifa are anarchist.

By becoming that which they fight, not a great battle plan id say.

a reply to: Justoneman

I agree but keep in mind live by the troll die by the troll, He has to expect to be attacked.

You know, I think there might be something to this.

They should have a traveling festival like a music festival only better organized than Fyre Festival. Have speakers mixed in with music if they can get it and make sure they get venues close to all the best schools that can't stand free speech.

a reply to: dragonridr

Thanks for the laugh. You are so clueless it's hilarious. Another victim of the public education and fluoride?

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: dragonridr

Thanks for the laugh. You are so clueless it's hilarious. Another victim of the public education and fluoride?

Poor debating tactic attack me and not what i say. If you have a problem with something i said prove me wrong if you cant keep your snippy comments to yourself. Unlike you i can hold a discussion and offer opinions.Or in the case of anti fa point out hypocrisy.

a reply to: dragonridr

Did I miss something and am your personal history teacher? start here
Then maybe here
Or if you prefer it more simple to read and understand even wiki can be educational.
They came from all different political ideologies. Including communism, but everywhere outside the US people aren't that indoctrinated to think Karl Marx was a terrorist. That's the root of communism, if you're interested communism started as opposing force to the exploitation of workers during the industrialisation.
Oooh evil fair wage and workplace safety.
You can't look at European history through your McCarthy glasses.