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I won't be responding to your ignorance anymore
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: TerryDon79
I guess you missed all the facts that pertain to Jesus preached by Paul.
By by anti-christ!
Definition: “Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.” (Heb. 11:1) True faith is not credulity, that is, a readiness to believe something without sound evidence or just because a person wants it to be so. Genuine faith requires basic or fundamental knowledge, acquaintance with evidence, as well as heartfelt appreciation of what that evidence indicates. Thus, although it is impossible to have real faith without accurate knowledge, the Bible says that it is “with the heart” that one exercises faith.—Rom. 10:10.
. Compare that to the simplicity of the AV
“Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though not beheld.” (Heb. 11:1)
Also look at your partial rendering of Romans 10:10
Heb 11:1 ¶ Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
and compare that to the simplicity of the AV
the Bible says that it is “with the heart” that one exercises faith.
Faith and belief at times are interchangeable but as I challenge all who read the Bible to use the AV and then figure why the different words are used at different times.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believe unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.
and compare it to the simple words of the AV
"...faith follows the thing heard."
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 2:8 V-PPA-DMP
GRK: ἐριθείας καὶ ἀπειθοῦσι τῇ ἀληθείᾳ
NAS: who are selfishly ambitious and do not obey the truth,
KJV: and do not obey the truth,
INT: self-interest and who disobey the truth
Evidence for genuine conviction was also involved in the case of those who came to or who were brought to Jesus to be healed. Even if not eyewitnesses personally, they at least had heard about Jesus’ powerful works. Then, on the basis of what they saw or heard, they concluded that Jesus could heal them also. Moreover, they were acquainted with God’s Word and thus were familiar with the miracles performed by the prophets in times past. Upon hearing Jesus, some concluded that he was “The Prophet,” and others that he was “the Christ.” In view of this, it was most fitting for Jesus on occasion to say to those who were healed, “Your faith has made you well.” Had those persons not exercised faith in Jesus, they would not have approached him in the first place and, therefore, would not have received healing for themselves.—Joh 7:40, 41; Mt 9:22; Lu 17:19.
The history of the King James Version Only (hereafter KJVO) movement can best be described by...
Benjamin G. Wilkinson (1872–1968), a staunch Seventh-day Adventist missionary, theology professor and college president, wrote Our Authorized Bible Vindicated (1930) in which he asserted that some of the new versions of the Bible coming out, came from manuscripts with corruptions introduced into the Septuagint by Origen, and manuscripts with deletions and changes from corrupted Alexandrian text. He criticized Westcott and Hort,...He attacked the Westcott-Hort Greek text and expressed strong opposition to the English Revised Version New Testament (ERV, 1881). He was the first to apply Psalm 12:6–7 to the King James Bible, claiming that the reference is a prooftext for divine preservation of the Scriptures.
[going to Wilkinson's page]
Benjamin George Wilkinson (1872–1968) was a Seventh-day Adventist missionary, educator, theologian and considered one of the originators of the King James Only beliefs. [if he was the first as the other wikipedia page suggests wouldn't that make him THE originator? anyway...]
Some years later Independent Baptist preacher David Otis Fuller also wrote a book concerning the Textual debate entitled, Which Bible?, which helped to popularize King James Only beliefs although he excluded Wilkinson's Adventist beliefs from his book.
2 Timothy 3:1-8:
But know this, that in the last days... men will be ...haughty,..., not open to any agreement,...fierce,... headstrong,...having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;...always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
...these also go on opposing the truth. Such men are completely corrupted in mind,...
2Ti 3:1 ¶ This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: whereislogic
I am not KJV Only or part of those weirdo's movement.
Still nothing much to offer but the arguments of the King James Only movement I see...
Benjamin G. Wilkinson (1872–1968), a staunch Seventh-day Adventist missionary, theology professor and college president, wrote Our Authorized Bible Vindicated (1930) in which....He was the first to apply Psalm 12:6–7 to the King James Bible, claiming that the reference is a prooftext for divine preservation of the Scriptures.[in or as the King James Bible or Authorized Version and only there]