posted on Feb, 4 2005 @ 09:17 AM
I too am from the north of Ireland, Northern Ireland or however you wish to describe the bit at the NE top of the Irish land-mass.
It's my view that some people here in Ireland are taking their time coming to terms with what the 'GFA' (Good Friday Agreement) actually means.
Regardless of the 'internal' political situation here in NI the GFA is an internationally binding treaty between the UK and RoI. Constitutions were
changed and new relationships formed.
Neither the UK nor the RoI are the 'powers' they were 30yrs ago.
Times have changed and there is no going back.
As both the UK and RoI are full members of the EU the human rights of all of the people of each are greater than they have ever been before,
irrespective of which jurisdiction the people come under.....
.....and the outside US & EU involvement helps keep the 2 national govs 'honest' in all of this IMO.
There will never again be a sectarian 'protestant state' in the north, never.....and good riddence to it, even for the prod people it brought the
majority of them nothing but isolation and disaster.
In some respects it is true we have also been here before. Talks have broken down before during this process and the IRA have back-tracked.
I wouldn't worry too much, right now the IRA is just very pis*ed off that everyone (and I mean everyone, except them and their support) is
saying they did the £26million bank robbery that was recently carried out in Belfast.
We have been here before, IRA denials which subsequently turned into an admission of an 'operation unapproved by the leadership'.
The murder of Garda McCabe (a policeman from the Irish republic) being a case in point.
(....and it's also true, in fairness, that they have been blamed for things in the past which turned out not to be them too. It's just that when you
have the gov of the Republic of Ireland as adament as the British gov that they did it you pay a little more attention to what is being said.)
It may be that this was an act of bravado to calm their membership who are said to be very unhappy at the stalled political process despite
significant IRA 'movement' and pledges.
Others point to this 'movement' and these proposed pledges being nothing like enough - whether it is ground-breaking and unheard of for the IRA or
At other times it is unionist's and loyalists pis*ed off at what they are being asked to do.
That is the nature of trying to resolve this deep-seated issue.
Unionists will have to genuinely share power with nationalists and republicans and republicans must give up their 'armed wing' and engage solely
through the mechanisms of the 'state'.
In a normal democratic society it cannot be any other way, as everyelse is rightly saying.
Great efforts have been made in recent years to bring a more even situation in NI to be. Nationalists and repubicans are not facing anything like the
situation they faced in the late 1960's.
Whatever justice the nat/rep 'case' once had - and personally I believe they did have some justice in their case - it does not exist now IMO.
Certainly IMO there is nothing like a sufficient 'case' that could be made to justify any return to an armed conflict/terrorism.
But my money is on nothing much happening until after the UK general election in may (which will see voting across NI for the general election and the
local authority positions too).
Hmm, some are talking about major movement but as ever with NI it's a case of 'we shall see'.
Personally I do not believe that a return to war is possible even if the will is there post 9/11.
Besides being completely insane IMO the support the IRA had from the US would be an illegal fraction of what it once was and they would be throwing
away all the - very substantial - work and achievements made in the last 7yrs.
Although some members of the IRA have apparantly been talking about desiring a return to 'war' the case for this would be more threadbare than at
any time since partition IMO and it is generally reported and thought not to be a widespread opinion within the IRA.
The people of Ireland north and south do not want a return to conflict, quite the opposite in fact; when all of the people of Ireland voted for the
'Good Friday Agreement' they voted for normal politics within NI just like everywhere else has in the developed western world, if NI is to unite
with the Irish republic it will be through peaceful consent, not force.....
..... and seeing as it took approx 800yrs to get here is a just settlement the kind of thing people should expect to happen quickly?
Bit by bit things have been getting better. I don't expect this all to be resolved quickly certainly not in less than maybe 10 - 25yrs, if not a bit
The IRA (and all the various groups pertaining to all of this situation) cannot ignore the will of the people.
I'm all for a border poll to see where we stand at the moment and I am quite convinced that at some point in the not too distant future NI will vote
to become one with the RoI.....
....but I wonder how the IRA would feel about running an all-Ireland poll on whether they should pack-up and finish once and for all?
I wonder how they'd respond with talk of 'the people of Ireland' then, hmmm?
Whatever the disagreements the fact remains that 30yrs of the most terrible conflict did not resolve anything, IMO the least we can do is see if at
least 30yrs of honest effort will not bring about a proper and sustainable peaceful resolution to this sad situation.
[edit on 4-2-2005 by sminkeypinkey]