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California single-payer healthcare bill passes first committee test

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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 08:12 PM
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This is how it should be, states choosing their own path, even if it is the wrong path. Unfortunately, I'm sure the rest of us will have to bail them out down the line.




posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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California must be suffering some big ACA failures.

They are trying to get a SP system in place so taxes can go sky high(er).

There must be a hidden agenda.




posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy
And you hit the nail on the head.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Sure is, full employment for bureaucrats



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
California must be suffering some big ACA failures.

They are trying to get a SP system in place so taxes can go sky high(er).

There must be a hidden agenda.



Page 3 of this recent (2016) Canadian Study shows that the average family of four pays a 40% income-tax rate, with 28% of that 40% paying for their "Single-Payer" coverage.

REF: www.fraserinstitute.org...

According to www.tax-rates.org... , a California family of 4 @ $100k income, pays 21% of that income in Fed/State taxes now.

Do you add an additional 28% for California Single-Payer? If so, that's insane!

-cwm



posted on Apr, 28 2017 @ 08:09 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: xuenchen
California must be suffering some big ACA failures.

They are trying to get a SP system in place so taxes can go sky high(er).

There must be a hidden agenda.



Page 3 of this recent (2016) Canadian Study shows that the average family of four pays a 40% income-tax rate, with 28% of that 40% paying for their "Single-Payer" coverage.
REF: www.fraserinstitute.org...
According to www.tax-rates.org... , a California family of 4 @ $100k income, pays 21% of that income in Fed/State taxes now.
Do you add an additional 28% for California Single-Payer? If so, that's insane!
-cwm

a) Fraser Institute is a right-wing generator of enabling factoids.
b) No matter what the 'tax rate', the final arbiter is the standard of living that comes out of it. I would venture to say that ours, at very least, equals yours. And that's with a universal health care system which is not perfect, but pretty damn good!



posted on Apr, 28 2017 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

I agree with that as well. But many seem to want to watch this whole thing go off a cliff. There is a solution, but the major players are going to get less $$$$. This is not an exceptable solution, for the few.

The US's system is literally in free fall (cost increases), no one is doing anything to solve the problem. In a few years the cost of high deductible crap insurance will be un-affordable.



no, it`s already unaffordable.

$300 a month with a $10,000 deductible is $13,600 a year, 15 years ago if you had $13,600 a year in disposable income you would easily qualify for a mortgage. if you`re a renter and being forced to buy insurance through the obamacare law you are being cheated out of owning a home.
make no mistake about it the money you pay now for health insurance is disposable income because if you weren`t forced by law to give that money to an insurance company that would be money in your pocket, money that a mortgage lender would consider when approving or denying a mortgage loan.



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