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Congratulations! Ann Coulter finally silenced on Berkeley Campus

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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Annee

The object of speaking at venues such as Berkeley, if one is conservative, isn't to speak to an echo chamber, it's to attempt to sway minds away from opposition and to support.



Coulter is not there to sway minds.

She's there to throw "darts".

They offered her an alternative and she refused.




posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:17 AM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: angeldoll

Ah, I see...

She gets to speak if you, and those who think like you, like her. Good to know.

Forget who said it...

"Either all speech is free, or none is." Odd how some have forgotten that, assuming, perhaps wrongly, that they ever knew it.


last i checked, she was free to spew any rubbish she wants. no one is keeping her from speaking.
if she's not allowed in a private venue any more, that's a personal problem,
the government is not keeping her from speaking or expressing her views. maybe there's another definition of free speech entitling people to be allowed to hold rallies when they have been denied by a private venue.
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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:17 AM
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a reply to: seagull



That sadly is how some of people in the world see us. Trump certainly doesn't help.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:20 AM
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a reply to: Annee

Yes, she was. ...and how would a differing venue, presuming it to be on campus, have changed the fact that threats of violence were made??

...and of course she throws darts. So? Many speakers do. When I speak publicly I'm not shy about sending zingers, either. ...and I've been silenced more than once in council chambers, county commissioners, etc... Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to speak?

Who gives a flyin' fark about her speaking style? She has a protected right to speak which has been threatened by a bunch of stupid poltroons who've not the common courtesy to counter peacefully, instead they rely on intimidation. Real bunch of heroes.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:23 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Yes, well... Some people are stupid. I consider myself to rather well spoken...that may, or may not, be true, and fairly familiar with the rest of the world. I don't consider people in other countries/regions to be all of one piece, I don't think it too much to ask for the same courtesy.

One might even say it irks me more than slightly.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

"Murica" is a stereotype given to American "rednecks" who take pride in their country. That's really it.

The first vid you posted was a bunch of people acting crazy on Black Friday. Yeah, it's pretty ghetto.

The second vid was just hilarious. It's a vid made by gamers known as "trolls" of the 4-chan type.

In the end, "Murica" is just a satirical term created by lefties to describe Americans who take pride in their country. They now use words like "White nationalists" "racists" and everything else under the sun because they hate traditional values. Nothing more, nothing less.
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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:31 AM
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a reply to: Wookiep

Oh I know and thank you.
Like I said Trump doesn't help us with our image.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Only if you take the "Murica" stereotype seriously, and think millions of people who don't think exactly like you are crazy morons, then yeah. I guess our "image" looks bad.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:38 AM
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a reply to: seagull

I was a fan of hers when she first came on the scene.

After she made money off her books, she didn't even try to make sense anymore.

She just throws "darts", because that's what her supporters want to hear/see.

She's a button pushing instigator - - and insights opposition instigators - - and everyone else gets caught in the sweep.

Free speech is not absolute.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: Annee

She threw "darts"? Like psychical ones or metaphorical things that take a jab at your beliefs via words??

You know it's words. So do I. How did you get so many stars for that in like 5 minutes?? Crazy.

Anyway... So you think she shouldn't be allowed to speak because she throws poison verbal "darts" that you don't like?? You are sounding like a CRAZY woman for being against free speech that doesn't fit your narrative. Uhg.


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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 01:00 AM
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NVM all the libs come out at night. Lol, it's like clockwork. Now is a bad time to post.
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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 01:15 AM
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a reply to: Annee

I've followed her for some years too... I like her verbal style, frankly. It's much like mine is in RL.

What has she said that is so very dangerous that you are, seemingly, OK with terroristic threats against her scheduled appearance?

What's so dangerous?



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 01:38 AM
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originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: DBCowboy

You can almost smell the filthy Soviet style approach from here...... In Britain.


This is very much modeled on Chinas cultural revolution. Its very dangerous stuff. Thankfully Americans are still armed and most wont go along quietly while the red commie wave crashes over us.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Berkley should be ashamed and take a no tolerance stance on any protesters resorting to violence and any found acting violently should be removed from campus forcefully and have their degrees removed and their courses cancelled etc.

People who goto places of learning to better themselves should not be protesting violently
it's an insult to human intelligence



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:22 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Personally, I would prefer that liberal return to its roots, ie the classical liberalism that the Founders advocated. But the term has been hijacked by the social progressive that want to unravel the USA because 'socialist' and 'progressive' left a bad taste in people's mouths. Maybe because of Bernie Sander's 'democratic socialism' they will let it go, time will tell.

In the meantime I just call what you are talking about 'classical liberalism' which is a wordier version of 'conservatism'. The GOP has not hijacked the term, they just added 'compassionate' in front during the 2000's.
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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:25 AM
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originally posted by: knowledgehunter0986
a reply to: underwerks

You're missing the point. Nobody is making the left act the way they are. Regardless if this is all some PR stunt, it doesn't change the actions of the left, and you are just deflecting once again by not acknowledging it and blaming the right.


The problem is that you, and the media on the right, are conflating a tiny percentage of antifa who are ruining the normal peaceful protest of the kids at Berkeley, with "the left" as a whole.

I think AC is a dreadful human being but I wouldn't express that violently and I wouldn't protest her coming to speak in my city. I don't care about her or what she has to say, so she's just not worth my energy.

Heck, even the ACLU is standing up for her right to speak.

She's actively trying to provoke a hot blooded situation by going there, to stir up trouble and get herself on talk shows to complain about how horrible "the left" is as a political strategy and for personal gain. The Conservative student group knows exactly what they are doing too.

Let's not be naive.




posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:27 AM
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Ann Coulter is not a conservative. She is an agitator and a divider. She preaches a message of hate, and condones violence (as long as its "conservatives" doing the violence.)

She's a media figure who has done nothing but churn this up for her own notoriety and benefit.

No one was paying attention to her. Trump for whatever reason hasn't picked her up. Time to show her ass.

Coulter made the decision not to speak. The university had the right, for whatever reason, to say "no." If it didn't then all of you who are constantly claiming that individuals and companies have the right to "deny service" are petty hypocrites.

That said, the use of violence or the threat of violence for political ends is wrong. It is a slippery slope. Trump started this at his rallies, certain elements have taken it and pushed it much further.

I would have supported Coulter's speech. It's important to let her spew her vileness. There is no reason to fear the words of a hatemonger.

People know what Coulter and her ilk are.
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posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

And we care that 'some of those people in the world' see us that way, why?

Do those people care how we see them?



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:41 AM
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originally posted by: ConscienceZombie
Not really free speech if you have to be paid to say it. With that said, whatever she had to say probably wasn't worth it anyway.


Totally missing the point. It's not about what she wanted to say, it's the fact that she won't be able to. Freedom of speech is something you excercised with your post, even if your contribution to this thread wasn't worth it.



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 06:46 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
Ann Colter is not a conservative.

She's a media figure who has done nothing but churn this up for her own notoriety and benefit.

No one was paying attention to her. Time to show her ass.

The university had the right, for whatever reason, to say "no." If it didn't then all of you who are constantly claiming that individuals and companies have the right to "deny service" are hypocrites.


If the University of California, Berkley were a private college you would have a point.




Further, Coulter made the decision not to go.


No, she did not go because the group that invited her was threatened to the point of rescinding the invite.


That said, the use of violence for political ends is wrong. It is a slippery slope. Trump started this at his rallies, certain elements on the left have taken it and pushed it much further.


Trump started no such thing. If you actually do the research, the 'knock him out' comment was in response to a single (progressive/leftist/statist/Democrat) person who was going to sneak into the crowd and try to violently disrupt the rally. Was what Trump said the correct course of action? Not really, but he didn't start the violence. If there were no violent disruptions, he wouldn't have said anything.

EDIT: And those were PRIVATE rallies.

Another EDIT: What Trump said was rhetoric, no worse than Obama saying to 'get in people's faces' or 'punish your enemies' or 'bring a gun to a knife fight.' There is a big difference in words at a private function and violent actions on a public space. Which side is doing that?
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