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Boeing & Saab fly second T-X prototype

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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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Whatever the other players are doing (or not) for the t-x, Boeing seems pretty serious with their bid. They and Saab have started testing a second bird. They claim its a production ready design and matches the performance and behavior of the first prototype.

We have speculated here this is the bone being thrown to Boeing for losing the b-21 contract. They do to seem to be slacking off from trying to win it on merit though.

www.flightglobal.com...




posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: anzha

It's going to come down to the t-50 vs the t-x.. t-50 going to be a hard one to beat because of its operational history and weapons capability. It will be tight and economy is going to be important.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: bra1nwash

That is assuming industrial base doesn't come into play, which I bet it will.

Locked doesn't need another contract any time soon to ensure its lines and development capability. Boeing on the other hand...



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 03:20 PM
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Sexy bird!




posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: anzha

As they should. We're going into the biggest, most influential pair of fighter procurements (F-XX and F/A-XX) since the F-14 and the F-15. Back then, they had over a half dozen contractors vying to build the next USAF and USN air superiority platforms. If we lost Boeing, today we'd be down to two.

So yeah. I, for one, look forward to seeing what comes out of a possible three-way fly-off for the 6th gen twins, and for that to happen, we need to keep Wichita warm.



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 12:04 AM
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a reply to: anzha

We all always talk about the industrial base but I don't really think there's any factual evidence that the pentagon cares about who wins. The same sub contractors are going to end up supplying raw materials, etc. The brand name on a warbird has very little to do with whats inside sometimes.



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: Caughtlurking

The Pentagon cares a great deal about the industrial base. If you have three companies offering the same product, you have a bigger variation in price than if you have two companies offering the product. With Boeing being able to offer a new fighter, which they will be able to if they get the T-X, then Lockheed and Northrop have to worry about being undercut.



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 12:51 AM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Northrop hasn't got a production line for fighter aircraft and there won't be any room at their current facilities so any base they represent is nil. Boeing could not produce fighter aircraft for 20 years and if they thought they had a chance at making a profit doing it they would still put forth an offer. That's why every company under the sun tries to partner up and at least make an offering for almost every contract. That's why foreign manufacturers with no production base partner with domestic players with no production base to make bids. The politicians care about the jobs numbers in their districts but the pentagon doesn't care about who wins more so than what wins. They want b=x, y, and z for



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: Caughtlurking

It doesn't matter if they have a production line for fighters. They're still going to have an offering, and they're still going to spend the money for the engineering work. The Pentagon cares a lot about who builds it, because they want the lowest cost possible. You seriously think that they're going to pay, or be allowed to pay $1B per aircraft for the next fighter? Which is exactly what will happen if Lockheed is the only company still out there to offer the next fighter.

The Pentagon cares a great deal about cost. The most something costs, the more chance of it being cancelled or them not even being able to start the program. If you really think that they don't care about how much a program costs, you need to go back and start paying more attention. Half the reason we're in the place we're in now is because of money. If they don't worry about money, then we aren't going to get a new fighter, and we're stuck with F-15s and F-16s for the next 30+ years before we even get close to a replacement.
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posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 05:21 AM
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Its a wonder Scaled Comp hasnt dusted off its RUTAN/AMES MODEL 73 NGT...



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 08:37 AM
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a reply to: Blackfinger

It wouldn't even come close to some of the requirements.



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