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Israel accidentally admits to communicating with ISIS

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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 03:13 AM
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Islamic State terrorists have on at least one occasion “apologized” to Israel for mistakenly attacking IDF soldiers

former defense minister Moshe Ya’alon accidentally acknowledged that Israel has an open communications channel with an Islamic State cell

Ya’alon’s office refused to elaborate. The IDF also declined to comment. Under Israeli law, any communication with terrorists is considered illegal.

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Amidst accusations that Israel is largely behind the existence and successes of ISIS for the sake of overthrowing the Syrian government, former Israeli defense minister has let it slip that Israel does in fact have open communications with ISIS. Not only that, but apparently they're so friendly that ISIS once apologized for accidentally opening fire on IDF troops.
By the way, this is illegal.
Now, if you're wondering why Israel would ever have anything to do with a terrorist group, it's simple. Let's say you want to overthrow a government, but you don't want to send your own soldiers to fight and die. All you have to do is covertly arm and train rebel groups already in the country and let them do the fighting and dying for you - hence ISIS. It's a sound tactic that works beautifully time and time again.




posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 03:22 AM
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Nothing will be done about it. Israel admitted to funding terrorist groups years ago and nobody did anything then so why now?



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 03:37 AM
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a reply to: trollz

I don't understand the point of mentioning that this is illegal.

Isn't being a terrorist illegal? Seems obvious... But our own government sometimes uses terrorist organizations for their own agenda, so no surprise at all if a bunch of loonies with rifles decide to be pawns in the "bigger game".



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 04:07 AM
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So you are surprised Israel is in contact with terrorists, seriously, wouldn't that just be common sense. I am amazed you think that's wrong, illegal or not

As for IS working for the Jews, you are suggesting that the Muslims are working for the Jews, that Muslims are aware that they are doing what the Jews want

Just a few silly holes in your story, you might want to elaborate on reasons for the sake of common sense



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 04:08 AM
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a reply to: buster2010

Yep, here's Israel's Former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy talking about Israel's stance on Al-Nusra & Al Qaeda back in March of last year (at the 2:45 mark onward).


ETA: He admits that Israel has no problem medically aiding Al Nusra & Al Qaeda fighters for "humanitarian reasons", but won't aid Hezbollah for those same humanitarian reasons. When asked if that was a contradiction, he said no because Al Qaeda's never attacked Israel while Hezbollah has. The interviewer literally reminds him that Al Qaeda has attacked Israel's closest neighbor and supporter, the US, and that's the whole point in the 15 year War on Terror. But he still still doesn't back down from his stance about Israel treating Al Qaeda fighters.

It's hard to imagine them being any more direct than this, yet they suffered absolutely no political repercussions for it.
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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant


It's hard to imagine them being any more direct than this, yet they suffered absolutely no political repercussions for it.


That's because the U.S. is well aware of who allies with who and they don't necessarily disapprove of Israel supporting certain terrorist groups because they can be used to overthrow leaders who wont play ball. I know this thread is about Israel but Turkey are also guilty of indirectly and even directly supporting terrorists and providing them with medical aid. A year or so ago the head of Turkey's national intelligence agency made statements along those lines (see article below). Of course their tune has drastically changed since then and I very much doubt they'd make statements like that today. But I think it's very important to remember that U.S. intelligence agencies worked with Turkey intelligence to smuggle weapons across the border into Syria to help aid the rebels.


ISIS is a reality and we have to accept that we cannot eradicate a well-organized and popular establishment such as the Islamic State; therefore I urge my western colleagues to revise their mindset about Islamic political currents, put aside their cynical mentalité and thwart Vladimir Putin's plans to crush Syrian Islamist revolutionaries,” Anadolu News Agency quoted Mr. Fidan as saying on Sunday.

Fidan further added that in order to deal with the vast number of foreign Jihadists craving to travel to Syria, it is imperative that ISIS must set up a consulate or at least a political office in Istanbul. He underlined that it is Turkey’s firm belief to provide medical care for all injured people fleeing Russian ruthless airstrikes regardless of their political or religious affiliation.

Turkish intelligence chief: Putin's intervention in Syria is against Islam and international law, ISIS is a reality and we are optimistic about the future

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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 04:58 AM
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Israel is part of the nameless "Coalition" engaged in the subjugation of Syria. They have run airstrikes inside Syrias borders, provided the insurgents with weapons and training and provided aid along the Syrian border.

Truthseeker



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: trollz


Hiya.

War is dirty. The British Government had an open channel with the IRA during "The Troubles" for many years. The IRA even blew the government up in the finish. What does this prove? It proves that baby steps are sometimes taken to prevent mistakes on all sides. Donald Trump actually informed Russia, who the U.S are engaging militarily on a proxy basis, before the recent bombing.

You are suffering a mild case of Anti-Semitism; this time hypnotized by Russia's propaganda and RT of all places. Don't be so naive; Russia are at utter odds with the U.S and Israel over Syria. They are "in it to win it" and will do everything in their power, including propagandizing and stirring up Anti-Semitism among Western Citizens. You hone in on Israel as if it is not allowed to play dirty like the rest of the world. That is the problem; discrimination on an extreme level, evidenced in your OP. You think that Israel is somehow a criminal mastermind like Arthur Conan Doyle's "Moriarty", behind all the evil that humans do. You are like Ezra Pound and utterly don't trust the Jews. You think there is a "conspiracy", in short. That's up to you, but I just want to point it out to you.

If Israel wants to survive in this rabid dog eat dog world it will have to get its hands as dirty as its enemies. Remember: All is fair in love and war (unfortunately).

Personally, I am a pacifist. I would not let babies and women die for my political beliefs. You people need to ask yourselves the same question: Would you? Obviously MOST people are willing to go that far to win what's never been won as the world is continually full to the brim will bloody corpses in the abattoir of sacrifice for "my way not yours".

You are misreading it somewhat. It is just your innocence and naivety perhaps that you are expecting all the factions to be behave like gentlemen playing a game of tennis.


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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 05:17 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9

SMH Calling out a country's govt for doing something unethical & illegal is not anti-Semitism. Arguments like that dilute the word. There are numerous threads on ATS that call out the US govt and various other govts for supporting and/or working with terrorists. That doesn't mean those threads are anti-American, anti-Christian, etc.

ETA: In fact, there are also quite a few threads linking Saudi Arabia and other Gulf nations to terrorist groups. Are those threads also anti-Semitic? Or are we supposed to forget that Arabs make up the largest group of Semites, both ethnically and linguistically?

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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 05:33 AM
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originally posted by: TarzanBeta
a reply to: trollz

I don't understand the point of mentioning that this is illegal.

Isn't being a terrorist illegal? Seems obvious... But our own government sometimes uses terrorist organizations for their own agenda, so no surprise at all if a bunch of loonies with rifles decide to be pawns in the "bigger game".
You should say our goverment that is also a terrorist organisation use other terrorist.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 05:54 AM
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a reply to: trollz

"Back channels" are necessary in a conflict to prevent accidentally opening up new fronts. Daesh is fighting Muslims to establish a Caliphate; they do not want Israel to join the fight against them. Naturally, Israel is happy to see its enemies fighting one another, and will establish a relationship with the victor when the dust settles. Given Turkey's march to the right and Russia's growing presence in Syria, the Israelis might actually start to prefer Assad over the alternatives.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 07:18 AM
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a reply to: trollz

Great find!

Interesting to find out that Israeli law prohibits any type of communication with terrorists. This got me thinking, does that mean members of Israel's government aren't allowed to talk to each other? In all honesty they're the biggest terrorists of all!



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 07:34 AM
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ISIS = Israeli Secret Investigation Services.

Where do You think they got all the new Toyotas™ ? (U.S. State Dep't.)

A 'cabal' that Heads of State keep telling The Serfs (Us) that this Cabal is constantly recruiting jihadists from around the globe, yet when any videos get 'smuggled out' their faces and arms are covered (That way You cannot see their light complexions- They're 'mercenaries' all right... )

Thumbnail: It is a complete FAR¢E.

Afghanistan has gone from producing 7% of the world's opium in 2001 when 'TheTaliban™' was 'in-charge'. You remember 'The Taliban™' These are the guys the U.S. et al. armed and trained to fight 'The Russkies™' in the 70's and 80's. Now Afghanistan is producing close to 90% now and what has happened?

#1) Opiate pain medicine epidemic. Starting out in lower than average income areas, it has grown into the Suburbs as well. (Grew too big)

#2) After the outcry for the opiate pain medication epidemic, the "Pill Mills" closed and forced the users/abusers to look for opiates on 'the street' (War on Drugs™) or turn to easier obtained, Heroin.

#3) More legislation for more prisons including "Private Prisons" See if Your County's Jail is privately run. Just check the local newspaper. The folks who once got a Citation/Promise To Appear, are now getting 'booked' which includes a "Booking Fee" which the taxpayer pays...



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: trollz

Great find!

Interesting to find out that Israeli law prohibits any type of communication with terrorists. This got me thinking, does that mean members of Israel's government aren't allowed to talk to each other? In all honesty they're the biggest terrorists of all!




Shalom Aleichem
www.truetorahjews.org...
www.nkusa.org...
www.nkusa.org...


As You can see from the above listed links, if'n they don't abide by their own religion™ do You think they'd give 2 squirts what "others" think/feel?

For those who didn't read the links: Anti-Zionism™ is NOT anti-Semiticism..

namaste



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant
Thank you for pointing this out. In fact, Israel itself is the largest single anti-Semitic state on Earth. Notice that this hogwash called anti-semitism when being critical of Israel has died down due to more people understanding that Semite does not equal Jewish exclusively, and that Israel itself, is actually a very anti-Semitic state.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 08:20 AM
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Just more evidence to be ignored by the world on the march to WW3.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 09:55 AM
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originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: trollz


Hiya.

War is dirty. The British Government had an open channel with the IRA during "The Troubles" for many years. The IRA even blew the government up in the finish. What does this prove? It proves that baby steps are sometimes taken to prevent mistakes on all sides. Donald Trump actually informed Russia, who the U.S are engaging militarily on a proxy basis, before the recent bombing.

You are suffering a mild case of Anti-Semitism; this time hypnotized by Russia's propaganda and RT of all places. Don't be so naive; Russia are at utter odds with the U.S and Israel over Syria. They are "in it to win it" and will do everything in their power, including propagandizing and stirring up Anti-Semitism among Western Citizens. You hone in on Israel as if it is not allowed to play dirty like the rest of the world. That is the problem; discrimination on an extreme level, evidenced in your OP. You think that Israel is somehow a criminal mastermind like Arthur Conan Doyle's "Moriarty", behind all the evil that humans do. You are like Ezra Pound and utterly don't trust the Jews. You think there is a "conspiracy", in short. That's up to you, but I just want to point it out to you.

If Israel wants to survive in this rabid dog eat dog world it will have to get its hands as dirty as its enemies. Remember: All is fair in love and war (unfortunately).

Personally, I am a pacifist. I would not let babies and women die for my political beliefs. You people need to ask yourselves the same question: Would you? Obviously MOST people are willing to go that far to win what's never been won as the world is continually full to the brim will bloody corpses in the abattoir of sacrifice for "my way not yours".

You are misreading it somewhat. It is just your innocence and naivety perhaps that you are expecting all the factions to be behave like gentlemen playing a game of tennis.



Wow. Such condescending talk from someone throwing "anti-Semitism" like a weapon, yet not even understanding the term. Complete ignorance.

What Israel does as a nation in it's military or political pursuits has nothing to due with Jewish people as a race. And then you try to drag Russian propaganda into the mix? Classic.

But you're merely a "pacifist" hahaha.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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Wow. Such condescending talk from someone throwing "anti-Semitism" like a weapon, yet not even understanding the term. Complete ignorance. What Israel does as a nation in it's military or political pursuits has nothing to due with Jewish people as a race. And then you try to drag Russian propaganda into the mix? Classic. But you're merely a "pacifist" hahaha.


Yes, I am a pacifist. Why did you say that I am not? I don't understand. You are just being nasty because you don't agree with my stance.

Israel is everything to do with Israel. Israel is a JEWISH STATE. The Anti-Semitism relates to NOT BLAMING Jewish people for the political and military pursuits of the state. Where have I blamed Jewish people? I am DEFENDING Israel against people who think it is OK for Russia, U.S, Britain, France, etc to "do their thing*, but as soon as Israel does the same they get hammered as being somehow more monstrous than the others. Why is that so do you think? Might it just have a little something to do with Israel being a JEWISH STATE?

Yes, it is Russia muck spreading propaganada. Look at what Russia does, how it behaves. Are they somehow better than Israel? Russia is a totalitarian thug like nation where people are very severely politically oppressed. The state runs on fear and terror. If you go against Putin you are in danger there. You could go to prison for it or even be killed.

So this Russia goes accusing Israel of "once" engaging in communication with IS when the British did it for thirty years continually with IRA terrorists that were bombing the hell of Britain and blew up the government. I used that as an example because it shows that enemies still communicate OFTEN when engaging each other militarily.

Why is Russia sensationalizing the fact that Israel did this once? They are doing it because they know it will make Western people who have issues with Israel (related to its JEWISH identity) distrust Israel more and their own authorities, too, as being in collusion (in actual fact it is official democratic ALLIANCE). It weakens trust, creates confusion and dissent; Russia likes doing that to its opponents.

I could sensationalize all the people that Putin has had murdered. Conveniently, you forget all about that as you attack Israel for doing what every other Western state has done on a continual basis.

That is what I was getting at.

I understand just fine what Anti-Semitism is and I am seeing it displayed here, albeit very subtly, in this thread. That is why I wrote what I wrote. Yes, I wrote it in a deliberately condescending tone because I am bored with Israel being singled out and judged when it does nothing different to any other Western nation in terms of its defense. My own attitude to that is that Russia has got naive and vulnerable conspiracy theorists thinking Israel is the enemy and that Jews have taken over the West and all their governments. They are muck spreading. I watch RT often and I know all their games.

I am not using it as a weapon. It is REAL and it is here even in this thread. If you are going to call out Israel then at least compare it with the behavior of other states that have to defend against terror.

I repeat that the fact Israel is being criticized and singled out has to do with Anti-Zionism and Anti-Semitism. You know as well as I that this is happening. Or are you that deviant you would tell a lie to defend your stance?

Yes, Russia has used this to create distrust of Israel and get people like you guys to believe that Israel is somehow worse than everybody else, which it is not.

I think I can safely say this to Russia:

Take the #ing plank out of your own eye before you take the splinter out of Israel's!


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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: Revolution9
you must be living under a rock, because much of this community has frequently called out the USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and even Jordan for funding and arming ISIS. As well as the USA and the UK for arming SA and their complicity in the destruction of the Yemeni infrastructure which is leading to widespread famine. We condemn all of that, almost daily really.

As far as the source, The original source was actually the former Israeli prime defense minister from 2016 during a tv interview in Israel Saturday April 22, 2017.

I felt an Israeli source may assuage your suspicions of fake news.

The Times of Israel
Former defense minister Moshe Ya’alon on Saturday said the Islamic State terrorist group in the Syrian Golan Heights “apologized” for attacking an Israeli unit. “There was one case recently where Daesh opened fire and apologized,” Ya’alon said, using the terror group’s Arabic nickname. Israel and much of the Western world considers the Islamic State affiliate in the Syrian Golan Heights, known as the Khalid ibn al-Walid Army, to be a terrorist group. Communication with them is technically illegal under Israeli law, constituting contact with an enemy agent.

Ya’alon was speaking at an event in the northern city of Afula. He was interviewed on stage by Eli Levi, a Channel 10 news correspondent. Ya’alon’s officer refused to elaborate on how exactly the Islamic State expressed its apology to Israel after the attack. The IDF also declined to comment.

I guess it could be Israeli propaganda .... ??

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posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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Ahhhh, so I am not part of the community then. Is that because I back Israel I wonder, lol? How dare you. I have put ten times more input into this site than you have. Look at the dates and the data. You are trying a lot of nasty little character assaults here. It stinks, but I will defend myself and the correct assertion that Russia is being a hypocritical jerk saying what they said about Israel.

What do I have to do to be part of the community, lol. Should I forsake Israel and then you will like me??? Hmmm?

I will speak my mind and I will express myself. I will do it whenever and wherever I like.

Russia have called out Israel for something they have done and that everyone else does. It is the pot calling the kettle. You know it, we all know it.

It's only a few conspiracy theorists that see it as something to go "Whoop" about. Everyone else knows this stuff and they know that we have to be bad ass to survive. That is why we all have security services.

It is business as normal. There is no evidence that the West supports IS. There is NONE. Find me some. You have said it. Go and find some evidence and we may examine it together and see if it is evidence. Go do it. I CHALLENGE YOU!

Russia are muck spreading. Plain and simple that is how it is. They are bitching because they can't have it their way and keep that brutal dictator in power there.

Why are you sticking up for dictators against Western democracy? Why do you think that is going to make life better for you. You are like an animal gnawing at its own leg in a trap.

Have fun gnawing on that funny bone.


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