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Trump's Assault on History

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posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien

Maybe this will wake some people up.

A recent survey.

The most pressing concern when it comes to residential amenities.

Isn't the nearest library or museum.

It's connectivity.

variety.com...




posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Actually I think Trump is hurting the country but that's another topic. Regardless presidents have always been attacked throughout history. Nothing new.



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I just have one question for people here when is the last time you went to a library? They actually closed my local library because well no one went. You have the ability to access the internet and it has more information than any library. I personally read ebooks on my tablet its just easier. So why do we want to continue funding an outdated technology. Kind of like selling movies on Betamax very few will use them.

www.bbc.com...




i have a nook and my wife has a kindle. we are still at the library 2 times a week easy every week.
my local library is busy more often than not.


fantastic! it's people like you who should be setting up fund raisers to keep places you enjoy going strong. Take steps to help yourself, that way, if the government stops giving money to something you enjoy, you can still have it. (personal responsibility!)



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 03:59 PM
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I don't think the people complaining about libraries being obsolete have ever been to a real library. You're probably right about your neighborhood library being obsolete in the internet age, but that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the ones that have rare book rooms, filled with rare books and manuscripts stretching back hundreds of years, that you aren't allowed to check out. At the rare book room at the main library in SF there's a crazy book about scalar physics and Nazi experiments with it that isn't available anywhere else, for sale or otherwise.

I hate to think that people want to defund libraries because they think of the place down the street when thinking about it. This affects ALL libraries.



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I just have one question for people here when is the last time you went to a library? They actually closed my local library because well no one went. You have the ability to access the internet and it has more information than any library. I personally read ebooks on my tablet its just easier. So why do we want to continue funding an outdated technology. Kind of like selling movies on Betamax very few will use them.

www.bbc.com...




i have a nook and my wife has a kindle. we are still at the library 2 times a week easy every week.
my local library is busy more often than not.


fantastic! it's people like you who should be setting up fund raisers to keep places you enjoy going strong. Take steps to help yourself, that way, if the government stops giving money to something you enjoy, you can still have it. (personal responsibility!)


I have a fund.
It's called taxes

Bummer people don't care about books anymore.



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

How's Google with things like microfiche?



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: underwerks

Who needs rare books when you have Google


and it seems people are still stuck on thinking the library is only for checking out books.
periodicals
family night
classes on computers and crafts
free tax help
free use of computers/internet
5 cents a page copies
reference material
just a few things there
edit on 24-4-2017 by TinySickTears because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 06:58 PM
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Only in a mind dependent on the government does defunding equal an attack. There is nothing stopping anyone from funding libraries themselves.



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Thanks for the irrelevant ad hominem. It's been noted and now ignored.


Ah, but you still noted it.



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Krazysh0t

when Trump orders these places torn down or moved, it might be a big deal. But as of now, he's defunding something that should have been privately funded to begin with. Government needs to be smaller and cost much less.

It's important to be intelligent enough to understand the argument.


As long as he starts with the MIC than I am ok with any government defunding.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 12:18 AM
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it's been about a month, so its time for your customary warning (ahems)...

I know its your thread bruh but bail! Bail out like a sinking ship!

(thought u could use the humor)



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Well in a museum, for one, you have access to primary sources. Not so on the internet where everything is a tertiary (or worse) source. So at the very LEAST they are important for storing the evidence to prove your point about history. Is that not important to you? How can one deny ignorance without the corresponding evidence?



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: neo96

This stupid, stupid, stupid post got 20 stars?



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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Hey krazyshot, I'm sure you don't want the history of how Progressives embraced eugenics during the fascist socialist reign of Wilson and pre WWII era to be erased hmmmm? The history of how Rockefeller and Margaret Sanger and the Progressive movement started American Birth Control League and changed the name Planned Parenthood after Hitler gave eugenics such a bad name.....
You could check out Antiny Suttons writings on how Skull and Bones started Tfe American Historical Sociery due the purpose of controlling history and revisionist history.
I say go Trump go



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Only in a mind dependent on the government does defunding equal an attack. There is nothing stopping anyone from funding libraries themselves.
Right! I say let the ones who want funding reach into their own pockets.... right after the Fed reached into them to pay the interest on the trillion dollar government debt.....



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 11:45 AM
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If people knew their history they would be against defunding public libraries. Such a disservice to civilization. Seems people are in favor of going backward.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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Sutton on revisionist history. archive.org... vu.txt



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Grimpachi

Exactly. And this BS shtick about how funding slack will be picked up by donations is ridiculous. Even ONE museum or library closing because of this is backwards mentality.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Donald Trump is literally attacking history. REAL history here. Not partially remembered history displayed on an old, oxidizing statue. Libraries are where students go to study history and museums are where the history professionals go to further develop our understanding of it. Removing federal funding for those services is textbook erasing history.


Ok I didn't even read most comments but I have read up lots on this issue. First, lets not be dishonest.
Trump isn't "erasing" history. Museums will find funding through cities or states, or donations, or even sponsorships. Many, many large museums operate this way around the world. To be clear, history isn't going to go anywhere. It isn't going to be erased. The Smithsonian isn't going to close. The little museum in Nowhereville isn't going to close. Libraries aren't going to lock up shop.

Second, there is so much rampant abuse in the federal (and other) funding of "the arts". I think we all agree that museums and libraries should be open and accessible to the public, but a large percentage of that funding is used for more questionable things. It's one thing to say the gov't should fund the arts. It's another to say the government should fund artists. That's the problem.

Finally, there's people starving, homeless people freezing, roads crumbling, etc, fixing these problems and keeping the country as a whole safe are way higher priorities.

So, to sum up...
City streets named after a civil war hero or a statue of someone controversial are generally handled under municipal or local budgets. A city hangs a sign and thats that. A city erects a monument and every 6 months they hose off the pigeon crap. Done. Your comparison is apples to oranges. You're equating locally funded things that are usually just handled under general budgets (cities don't have "clean the statues" line items in their budgets) to hundreds of millions of dollars of discretionary spending that can be spent based on the tastes rather than needs.

Once again, good try manipulating things to make Trump supporters look bad.



posted on Apr, 25 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: stolencar18
Ok I didn't even read most comments but I have read up lots on this issue. First, lets not be dishonest.
Trump isn't "erasing" history. Museums will find funding through cities or states, or donations, or even sponsorships. Many, many large museums operate this way around the world. To be clear, history isn't going to go anywhere. It isn't going to be erased. The Smithsonian isn't going to close. The little museum in Nowhereville isn't going to close. Libraries aren't going to lock up shop.

Got any evidence to assure me that EVERY library and museum will stay open without this funding? Your words mean nothing to me.


Second, there is so much rampant abuse in the federal (and other) funding of "the arts". I think we all agree that museums and libraries should be open and accessible to the public, but a large percentage of that funding is used for more questionable things. It's one thing to say the gov't should fund the arts. It's another to say the government should fund artists. That's the problem.

I don't agree to anything without proof of what you are saying. So no I don't agree with you here. If you are so sure the funding is misused, give me a breakdown of how the funding is used to back this up. Not to mention, even if what you are saying is true here, that is NOT a good reason to cut 100% of this funding. Maybe a fraction of the funding, but not all of it.


Finally, there's people starving, homeless people freezing, roads crumbling, etc, fixing these problems and keeping the country as a whole safe are way higher priorities.

You can fix our nation's infrastructure without attacking our history you know?


Once again, good try manipulating things to make Trump supporters look bad.

I don't give a # about you guys. I'm blaming Trump for this. Check your ego at the door, mate.
edit on 25-4-2017 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



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