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Muslims to March on Amazon Over Prayer Breaks

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posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 02:08 PM
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Whatever happened to keeping your stupid religious beliefs to yourself?




posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 02:16 PM
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LMAO Bezo's was one of the main liberal voices against Trump's immigration ban,now like a rabid dog his precious muslims have turned around and bitten him on the hand.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Lysergic

Except only two of the prayer times occur during the workday.

Haha



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 02:59 PM
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Imo, Muslims should individually seek to make an arrangement with their particular work situation.

Most employers would gladly accommodate a reasonable request for a 3-five minute period on the persons break in a secluded place to pray.

If not the Muslims should not demand anything…

Muslims are allowed, within their religion, to make up missed prayers later at home or in a mosque outside of the ascribed prayer times. The only prayer one can't make up is Fajr, the Morning Prayer.

The problem Amazon has is that when giving such accommodations to people it may turn into a wholly inappropriate situation where too many people, indeed mobs of prayers, may start to appear which is unseemly and disruptive in a work environment.


This problem should be dealt with on an individual work-place basis.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
From the OP's article:


The Service Employees International Union and three Muslim guards who work for Security Industry Specialists, the security contractor Amazon uses to guard its facility, accuse SIS, and by implication Amazon, of refusing to allow the guards space to pray five times daily, even though members of other religions are granted the privilege of using prayer rooms.


If the bolded text is true, this doesn't really seem fair, does it?


Then the employer will do the smart thing and stop all worshipping on company time or property.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 04:53 PM
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I think that prayer space is not a vital right that a company should provide to all its workers; is more like a job benefit. A privilege. Some "high-earning tech workers" have more job benefits than simple workers, isn't that normal? Managers have bigger offices and better dental insurance, bigger bonuses, access to gym or pool and so on. In this case one of the job benefits is a prayer room, what's so unusual about this?
And how would any big company like Amazon will manage a large number of employees just walking away all at once for the "prayer time" few times a day?

Beside that, just on principle people don't come to work to practice religion. They have churches or mosques or whatever for that. At work they come to practice work. I wouldn't have accommodate that kind of privilege for no religion. If your religion is so demanding or you are so deep in it that it interferes with your daily job then better resign; God will provide



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

Let them pray on their own time. Does the company have Christian chapels? Shrines to Buddha? Whatever else? Didn't think so!!



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 06:43 PM
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It's called work, not prayer service.

Employers don't pay employees to sit there and pray to their large spaghetti man in the sky while on the clock.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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Practice your faith at home, that is fair.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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It's not that they aren't allowed breaks for this...It's that they're not accommodated with a space for them to, I assume, privately do their prayers away from everyone else. The tech staff is, however given conference rooms to do their praying. To be honest though it comes down to the tech guys being more valuable to the company and so they accommodate them...The contractors or lower on the totem pole guys are a dime a dozen and so the burden for their space is not taken on by the company. Same as how most places don't give entry level people or non-management people bonuses...And it isn't illegal nor is it discrimination unless you count it as worth discrimination. All companies discriminate based on worth...It's called interviews, offices, salaries, ect.

ETA: about 2/3s of the responders to this thread should be ashamed of their level of reading comprehension... Especially if you've passed 6th grade...
edit on 22-4-2017 by RickyD because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 09:50 PM
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Neat that some companies have daycare centers, cafeterias, and washrooms even.
electic car stations are neat too, meditation and prayer rooms no big deal.
My company has a full gym.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 10:01 PM
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Do the prayer breaks exist in locations where there is a war on. It would be tough on the pilots, skippers of ships and perhaps tank crews if they had to stop for a prayer break. Or do these military participants adjust their times to allow for their continued warfare and/or employment in those situations.

Anyway, perhaps they could adjust to any other working environment.

Kind regards,

bally



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 10:48 PM
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Worked with one (contract). One in a group of about 20 of us.

He prayed when he had to, that was his thing. He didn't care were he was as long as he prayed. Didn't care who saw him or what they said. He prayed.

Screw the ideologies that make anyone think they are better than anyone else. That's whats wrong with the world.

We are all humans and we are all parasites on this earth.

PARASITE: an organism which lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
edit on 22-4-2017 by MadMegs because: I can spell, but my fingers are dyslexic.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 11:31 PM
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originally posted by: [post=22156045]khnost]
LMAO Bezo's was one of the main liberal voices against Trump's immigration ban,now like a rabid dog his precious muslims have turned around and bitten him on the hand.

He was against the ban because of the high level employees that he providesa prayer room for.

This isn't about Islam so much as it's about Amazon being a notoriously #ty employer to its rank and file.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 11:35 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



50 years of litigation they have levied towards Christianity


Christianity is a dangerous force, just like Islam. In spite of that Christians still have a huge amount of power in this country, just look at the current administration.


Comparing Christianity to Islam ?
Seriously ?

Whose adherents are kidnapping girls ?
Whose adherents are selling them into sexual slavery ?
Whose adherents codify in Sharia that women are 2nd class citizens ?



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Why should Amazon have to provide the same courtesy to Contractors that they do for their own employees. Thats as silly as Amazon having to provide a prayer room or free coffee to an outside contractor that comes in to fix their phone lines.



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 01:39 AM
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a reply to: gortex

Its got nothing to do with pay scale and everything to do with who is deemed a worker and who is deemed a contractor. An employer has the legal leeway to entitle whatever benefits it deems worthy to to its own employees. Why should contractors get a free ride just because they want to scream loud? The security company they work for has clearly defined to them that they are contractors on a site.

They do not become employee's for every contract they service that year. Can you imagine the security guards being rotated to say 5 organization that year and they demand they be classified as employees of each company they are securing?



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 01:45 AM
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a reply to: gortex

But they are not fellow workers they are contractors, yes contractors, doing a service. Their is no legal obligation for Amazon to provide anything to a contractor. It is implied in a contract with a service delivery contractor that the contractor has made allowance for the employee to have certain benefits in working under the contract.

This is as stupid as saying that because Banks provide cheaper housing loans for their staff then the Armour Guard van drivers who collect the cash should also have cheaper housing loans from the Banks they service. It doesn't get any more ridiculous



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

They are contractors not employees...whats so hard to understand



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 01:51 AM
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a reply to: Variable2027



I think everyone is glancing over the CONTRACT SECURITY part, they aren't actually employees with amazon.


Thank you ...it seems that reading skills are definitely on a backward slope in this thread



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