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originally posted by: worldstarcountry
The European Union will fall apart because it is made up of too many individual former empires. Each one of these former empires has no interest in adjusting its monetary policies, immigration policies, and treaty obligations to align with a single centralized policy if it does not benefit them. And what benefits one may not another, therefore not enough cohesion.
The biggest deciding families of course do not see eye to eye with the future of Europe. The King of Belgium and Queen of England I think are too far apart on the future of Europe. The only hope for the EU to stay in existence is the creation of a EU armed forces. This would redefine NATO with only a handful of European states along the coastal regions, like UK, France, Norway and such. There are a handful of NATO states which re not aa part of the EU, and vice versa.
originally posted by: doobydoll
I voted leave.
People who voted remain argue with me that leaving the EU will see an end to human rights in this country, we'll be at the total mercy of the cruel tory government that will inflict untold horrors on citizens with impunity. My reply is that our tory government has been inflicting misery on people for years and not one word of protest from Brussels. Homelessness skyrocketing.
originally posted by: FuggleHop
a reply to: Swills
The smart thing would be to end it. Theirs only one successful union in this world and its the USA. Their have been other unions notably the USSR but it failed.
Unions dont work.
originally posted by: nickovthenorth
a reply to: doobydoll
I totally agree the UK is a mess and the EU is only pushing further us into it.
As for who to vote for !?!?.... I don't trust Corbin to get anything like a fair deal in EU exit negotiations so I'm probably GULP! gona have to go tory....damn that was hard to admit.
originally posted by: slider1982
The union was sold to the people as a free trade agreement that would allow member states easier buying and selling power, what it then turned into was something far more sinister. It is absurd to think countries with different economies, laws and cultures could work as one. Case in point we are all one big country in the EU yet we have totally different laws such as in the Netherlands where you can legally f#ck a school girl whilst smoking a joint but go straight to prison if you do over 100 mph in a vehicle, the UK for example is the total opposite and there in lies some of the issues there is no unified common sense. (Extreme example granted) but it shows what I mean and it runs right down to the smallest of bureaucratic matters.
Then you have the cost, Everything in the EU has a fee and legislation beyond belief, I have dealt with it personally and it is absurd..
Moving on to the mass migration of third world immigrants that Brussels stated member states "have" to accept that in reality was just a way to water down the native population that in the long run would see far less national pride and as such a culture that is easier to manipulate, the for migration agenda is a total con and for many member states the door was only ever going to go one way..
How many UK expats for example moved to Latvia when they became members?, or Romania for that matter???....
I remember in the 90s the scare stories of what would happen if the UK didnt join the EURO would be and that was proven to be a load of crap, the EU elite love to bully their minions when they really want to get their own way, it is a dictatorship make no bones about it...
My last point is the overall cost of keeping unelected officials on their Brussels gravy train, the amounts are a joke, the world is far bigger than just the EU and when you have total f#cking morons like Merkle with a serious Islamic fetish in charge of a main member country I think we can all see what that has led to!!!!...
The free trade agreement that it was sold as was fine, the BS that the EU is now is not worth it, I hope the whole thing is collapses and countries can regain some identity and sovereignty so they can try and patch up the mess that the EU would have left behind..
originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: nickovthenorth
I'm with you Nick.
Its hard to have to say it but the is NO ALTERNATIVE in the UK. We just have to sit tight. Vote Tory for a bit of short term stability.
EBay is now my sole source of income thanks to Tory cuts but I'll bite my lip and give them my vote. Corbin is dangerous and unelectable. He's destroyed the Labour party (but that's another thread altogether) and will be disastrous if he wins.
I know David Icke gets a mixed reception on here but he has, several times, explained what the EU is pretty well.
Worth checking out. Sorry no links but easy to find for those with an interest.