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originally posted by: SBMcG
I cannot tell you what liberals are or are not anymore, because their very ideology is based upon wealth re-distribution (theft), the removal of merit-based advancement in our society (everyone loses), their hatred of traditional America (2nd Amendment rights, nuclear family, Christianity, etc...), and their inexplicable support of everything that is bad for America (which is why they never hold power for long).
But I can tell you how this constitutional conservative feels about individual rights...
I follow the literal interpretation of the Constitution as defined through the Original Intent of the Framers. The document itself was clearly intended to be a strong limiting factor on the size and scope of government going forward, as affirmed over and over again in the writings of the Framers.
I have never seen anything in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or writings of the Framers that would give government the "right" to think for you, tell you what to think (and say), tell you what to do with your body, or tell you where you can and cannot go. However, neither does it absolve individuals from responsibility and the consequences of their choices and actions.
As an agnostic I don't really have a dog in the religious freedom hunt, but the Constitution clearly states that the Federal government shall play no role in the establishment of any religion. I also acknowledge that America itself was certainly founded by men who overwhelmingly had very strong Judeo-Christian leanings and were not shy about it.
The Federal government has no business intruding in any way into your personal life. The individual should be free to live the way they choose. However, if that lifestyle creates an economic or social impediment to that individual or others, that is 100% their choice and responsibility. One individual cannot be forced to "accept" the personal choices of another if they find them aberrant.
Obviously, there are hundreds of individual social and economic issues we could address here, but as a basic rule-of-thumb from the perspective of constitutional conservatism, if it is not addressed specifically in the Constitution, it's a states rights issue.
Maximum freedom, personal responsibility, minimal government interference. That was the Original Intent of our Framers.
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jimmyx
The founding fathers never tried to shut down speech they didn't like.
Well except for speech from a Black man or a woman or a poor person who doesn't own land or well literally anyone except rich land owning white men.
And in the 21st century who is considered to be 3/5's of a person ?
Bankers,gun owners,ceo's and the list goes on.
Liberal can think they are better than the right.
They can delude themselves in to thinking they are just so tolerant.
Everyone knows it's just self delusion.
so the right's more tolerant?.....hahaha.....thanks I needed a laugh today...talk about being delusional
We sure as snip didn't go around destroying property and throwing things, and beating people with bike locks because our guy lost in 2008.
So yeah the right is more tolerant.
And liberals don't go around shooting up abortion clinics and protesting dead servicemen's funerals with signs about "thank God for dead soldiers."
This is fun!
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jimmyx
The founding fathers never tried to shut down speech they didn't like.
Well except for speech from a Black man or a woman or a poor person who doesn't own land or well literally anyone except rich land owning white men.
And in the 21st century who is considered to be 3/5's of a person ?
Bankers,gun owners,ceo's and the list goes on.
Liberal can think they are better than the right.
They can delude themselves in to thinking they are just so tolerant.
Everyone knows it's just self delusion.
so the right's more tolerant?.....hahaha.....thanks I needed a laugh today...talk about being delusional
We sure as snip didn't go around destroying property and throwing things, and beating people with bike locks because our guy lost in 2008.
So yeah the right is more tolerant.
And liberals don't go around shooting up abortion clinics and protesting dead servicemen's funerals with signs about "thank God for dead soldiers."
This is fun!
No they blow snip up like Bill Aryes.
That is when they're not rioting in ferguson, and places like Berkeley.
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jimmyx
The founding fathers never tried to shut down speech they didn't like.
Well except for speech from a Black man or a woman or a poor person who doesn't own land or well literally anyone except rich land owning white men.
And in the 21st century who is considered to be 3/5's of a person ?
Bankers,gun owners,ceo's and the list goes on.
Liberal can think they are better than the right.
They can delude themselves in to thinking they are just so tolerant.
Everyone knows it's just self delusion.
so the right's more tolerant?.....hahaha.....thanks I needed a laugh today...talk about being delusional
We sure as snip didn't go around destroying property and throwing things, and beating people with bike locks because our guy lost in 2008.
So yeah the right is more tolerant.
Daily Kos /ˈkoʊs/ is an outlet for American political blogging.[2][3][4][5] It functions as a discussion forum and group blog for a variety of netroots activists whose efforts are primarily directed toward influencing and strengthening socially progressive policies and candidates. Additionally, the site features a participatory political encyclopedia ("DKosopedia"), glossaries, and other content
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Shamrock6
Well a real liberal wouldn't care what I say.
So much for tolerance.
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: jimmyx
originally posted by: neo96
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jimmyx
The founding fathers never tried to shut down speech they didn't like.
Well except for speech from a Black man or a woman or a poor person who doesn't own land or well literally anyone except rich land owning white men.
And in the 21st century who is considered to be 3/5's of a person ?
Bankers,gun owners,ceo's and the list goes on.
Liberal can think they are better than the right.
They can delude themselves in to thinking they are just so tolerant.
Everyone knows it's just self delusion.
so the right's more tolerant?.....hahaha.....thanks I needed a laugh today...talk about being delusional
We sure as snip didn't go around destroying property and throwing things, and beating people with bike locks because our guy lost in 2008.
So yeah the right is more tolerant.
I know you won't look at this site, because it disproves your statement, but here it is anyway
www.dailykos.com...
highlights include...timothy mcvay and Olympic bombing, among many others
originally posted by: Shamrock6
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Shamrock6
Well a real liberal wouldn't care what I say.
So much for tolerance.
Then again I'm not a liberal. Fake, real, or anywhere in between. Just because I'm not a wingnut such as yourself is no reason to assume that means I'm a liberal.
I know it would be easier on you if you could, but I'm not.
Pointing out your ridiculously rooted grip on rightwing dogma isn't intolerant. You're just intolerant of your own bias and intolerance.
Yea, I can play that game too
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: jimmyx
So you had to go to the 90s to supposedly prove a point about current events?
That's a fail.
Even bigger the Daily Kos.
Daily Kos /ˈkoʊs/ is an outlet for American political blogging.[2][3][4][5] It functions as a discussion forum and group blog for a variety of netroots activists whose efforts are primarily directed toward influencing and strengthening socially progressive policies and candidates. Additionally, the site features a participatory political encyclopedia ("DKosopedia"), glossaries, and other content
en.wikipedia.org...
Liberal Propaganda.
Or more aptly called FAKE NEWS in the modern vernacular.
i wouldnt consider either of these two the right leaning.
originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Shamrock6
Well..30 years starting from the 90s would bring us up to current events. I guess math isn't a thing way out there on the far right?
If Bin Laden was a manufacture villain.
Why do people buy the office 'story' about McVeigh?