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posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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If they could build 'nukes' with 1945 technology, we'd be able to get a 'DIY Nuke Kit' off Amazon by now!





posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:04 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

Film and photographic evidence, eyewitness accounts, 137-Cs marker layers, you've been given the evidence. Your arbitrary dimissal of it does not make it invalid. Prove it wrong.



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:07 AM
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I remember how 'suitcase nukes' were being built by terrorists back in the 80's, what happened to them?

They forgot the 'magic recipe', probably!



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:10 AM
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originally posted by: OneBigMonkeyToo
a reply to: turbonium1

Film and photographic evidence, eyewitness accounts, 137-Cs marker layers, you've been given the evidence. Your arbitrary dimissal of it does not make it invalid. Prove it wrong.


Cite your own sources, that's not hard, is it? Go ahead..



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:33 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
If they could build 'nukes' with 1945 technology, we'd be able to get a 'DIY Nuke Kit' off Amazon by now!



You could in the 1950s, we just realised it wasnt safe for children, a bit like this thread

Gilbert U-238 Atomic Energy Laboratory

Nuclear Fun for the Whole Family! Strange Atomic Toys of the 1950s



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 06:39 AM
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Hours of color footage was taken during WWII, there's no excuse for crappy footage in tiny snippets of the event of all time, only that it gives away the fake, among other things within the footage.

Hey, let's film the crew of Enola Gay in glorious color, for an hour or two, because that is 'documenting' this milestone event, before it happens! Not the event, so much, it's all good to film it in little snippets of blurry crap!

Is there any footage of the whole event? No.

Any footage that almost covers the whole event? No.


All the footage I know of, showing the actual event(s), are a few seconds long, mostly. Nothing more than a minute, or close to it, to my knowledge.

That's absolute bs.



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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I have to ask why are people bothering to try and have a logical debate with a Flat Earther?

You aren't going to get anywhere.

If someone wants to believe that two nuclear bombs were not dropped on Japan the nothing anyone says here is going to change that silliness. Just like nothing anyone says is going to change the mind of a flat earther or someone that thinks holograms were used on 9-11.

All you can do is enjoy the lulz and let those people live in their fantasy land.



posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 09:53 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

its called A.Q Khan for all your nuclear program starter kit needs. building a bomb isnt hard its getting the plutonium and other radioisotopes you would need to make one. the explosives and the geometries of older non thermonuclear bombs(primaries) are pretty well known. and honestly even if you could get the radioisotopes i would love to see you cast explosives in to the correct lens shape

PM me and we can meet up and ill take you to work with me and you will be able to test your theories with real radiation.

i'd lose my job and for sure get arrested for letting a crazy person in but it would be worth it watching you hold High level radioisotopes in your bare hands and wonder why they are getting burned without heat.
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posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

there is only one thing in the world that can make trinitite and that is a nuclear explosion

there are radionuclides in the melted sand/glass that turned it green and only exist in that glass because it requires the energy of a nuclear reaction to make some of the side products also trapped in that glass.

do you believe radiation can create heat? and the very thing that kills people is the very reason nuclear power and bombs work.

what proof would you like to see to prove to you that nuclear weapons exist?


again, if the earth is flat what is it resting on? and what is that resting on? and why is everything else like the moon and sun and the other planets and their moons round?:
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posted on Sep, 14 2019 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: turbonium1

I already provided you with references. Go read them.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 03:08 AM
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originally posted by: penroc3
a reply to: turbonium1

there is only one thing in the world that can make trinitite and that is a nuclear explosion

there are radionuclides in the melted sand/glass that turned it green and only exist in that glass because it requires the energy of a nuclear reaction to make some of the side products also trapped in that glass.

do you believe radiation can create heat? and the very thing that kills people is the very reason nuclear power and bombs work.

what proof would you like to see to prove to you that nuclear weapons exist?


again, if the earth is flat what is it resting on? and what is that resting on? and why is everything else like the moon and sun and the other planets and their moons round?:


I would like to see a nuclear weapon detonate, from start to finish, with my own eyes, in person. I'll accept your premise that it is extremely dangerous, and to see it from a safe distance, as you claim is required.

There is absolutely no excuse for people not being able to actually witness a nuclear weapon detonate, so why hasn't anyone in public ever been allowed to WITNESS one before? With their own eyes?

THAT is what I consider proof of this claim..just like it is for ANY claim, of course.

Until that happens, which is never, there is no proof nukes really work as claimed.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 03:37 AM
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A giant fireball and mushroom cloud created by a TNT factory explosion in Russia...

www.youtube.com...

www.thesun.co.uk...


If they told you this was a Chinese, or North Korean nuke, that was dropped on a Russian city, you'd have believed it, right?

So you believe in what they tell you is the 'truth', without question.

They told you nukes were dropped on two cities in Japan, and you believe it. For no reason, but you believe what they say is the truth, and nothing but the truth. Nice to know.

Anyway, if you didn't know that TNT is what really creates the huge fireballs and mushroom clouds, you know it now.

It won't matter to someone who will never believe anything but what they are told by their honest, caring government. They are long past any help, or reality.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 03:47 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
A giant fireball and mushroom cloud created by a TNT factory explosion in Russia...

www.youtube.com...

www.thesun.co.uk...


If they told you this was a Chinese, or North Korean nuke, that was dropped on a Russian city, you'd have believed it, right?

So you believe in what they tell you is the 'truth', without question.

They told you nukes were dropped on two cities in Japan, and you believe it. For no reason, but you believe what they say is the truth, and nothing but the truth. Nice to know.

Anyway, if you didn't know that TNT is what really creates the huge fireballs and mushroom clouds, you know it now.

It won't matter to someone who will never believe anything but what they are told by their honest, caring government. They are long past any help, or reality.


And all the people standing around watching without turning into shadows or being terrible burned? Oh nowwwws, superhumans!

Unlike it has happened in the past with people actually receiving radiation and having health issues for generations? Can't Be!

Since you ignored me the last time let me ask again

"What do you need to proof you are right"

What's the exact proof you need! Very very specific, please?

In a single line or two at most. Please


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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 03:55 AM
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Another TNT mushroom cloud...

www.youtube.com...

This one took while to create the mushroom cloud. I think that's why some 'nuke' footage only shows the cloud afterwards, nothing before that,when the TNT doesn't explode right away in commonly accepted 'nuke style' explosions, which look like one bomb that explodes, in unison. This one showed separate sections going off in different directions at first, which would not look like one big bomb detonated, but rather, it looks like many separate bombs.

Later, it fits perfectly as a 'nuke' mushroom cloud, of course.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 03:57 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
Another TNT mushroom cloud...

www.youtube.com...

This one took while to create the mushroom cloud. I think that's why some 'nuke' footage only shows the cloud afterwards, nothing before that,when the TNT doesn't explode right away in commonly accepted 'nuke style' explosions, which look like one bomb that explodes, in unison. This one showed separate sections going off in different directions at first, which would not look like one big bomb detonated, but rather, it looks like many separate bombs.

Later, it fits perfectly as a 'nuke' mushroom cloud, of course.


Later, you keep declining badly, it is called something else but i'm not going to even try to tell you about it : P

"Since you ignored me the last time let me ask again

"What do you need to proof you are right"

What's the exact proof you need! Very very specific, please?

In a single line or two at most. Please"

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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 04:09 AM
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originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: turbonium1
A giant fireball and mushroom cloud created by a TNT factory explosion in Russia...

www.youtube.com...

www.thesun.co.uk...


If they told you this was a Chinese, or North Korean nuke, that was dropped on a Russian city, you'd have believed it, right?

So you believe in what they tell you is the 'truth', without question.

They told you nukes were dropped on two cities in Japan, and you believe it. For no reason, but you believe what they say is the truth, and nothing but the truth. Nice to know.

Anyway, if you didn't know that TNT is what really creates the huge fireballs and mushroom clouds, you know it now.

It won't matter to someone who will never believe anything but what they are told by their honest, caring government. They are long past any help, or reality.


And all the people standing around watching without turning into shadows or being terrible burned? Oh nowwwws, superhumans!

Unlike it has happened in the past with people actually receiving radiation and having health issues for generations? Can't Be!

Since you ignored me the last time let me ask again

"What do you need to proof you are right"

What's the exact proof you need! Very very specific, please?

In a single line or two at most. Please



Proof is seeing a nuke detonate in person, from start to finish, with no obstructions, with no possible way to fake it.

For example, to actually see a bomb from a plane land on the ground, and explode into a humongous mushroom cloud, would show that one single bomb is capable of this. Replicate the A-bombs supposedly dropped on Japan, and drop them from a plane, and see if it creates the same mushroom clouds or not.

And no tricks either. Inspect the ground where the A-bomb will land, and make sure nothing is below that area, hidden, like a silo of TNT. In other words, make sure the only thing that could create the mushroom cloud is that one A-bomb, nothing else.

I would even accept public videos of such an event, if they can be proven to be independent, and transparent.

It's always fishy when they never show it to the public, make fake videos, and so on. Truth doesn't need to hide, to be faked, like this. It means, in virtually all cases, that it IS faked. And I'm sure this is all faked, as well.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1



originally posted by: Malisa

originally posted by: turbonium1
A giant fireball and mushroom cloud created by a TNT factory explosion in Russia...

www.youtube.com...

www.thesun.co.uk...


If they told you this was a Chinese, or North Korean nuke, that was dropped on a Russian city, you'd have believed it, right?

So you believe in what they tell you is the 'truth', without question.

They told you nukes were dropped on two cities in Japan, and you believe it. For no reason, but you believe what they say is the truth, and nothing but the truth. Nice to know.

Anyway, if you didn't know that TNT is what really creates the huge fireballs and mushroom clouds, you know it now.

It won't matter to someone who will never believe anything but what they are told by their honest, caring government. They are long past any help, or reality.


And all the people standing around watching without turning into shadows or being terrible burned? Oh nowwwws, superhumans!

Unlike it has happened in the past with people actually receiving radiation and having health issues for generations? Can't Be!

Since you ignored me the last time let me ask again

"What do you need to proof you are right"

What's the exact proof you need! Very very specific, please?

In a single line or two at most. Please



Proof is seeing a nuke detonate in person, from start to finish, with no obstructions, with no possible way to fake it.

For example, to actually see a bomb from a plane land on the ground, and explode into a humongous mushroom cloud, would show that one single bomb is capable of this. Replicate the A-bombs supposedly dropped on Japan, and drop them from a plane, and see if it creates the same mushroom clouds or not.

And no tricks either. Inspect the ground where the A-bomb will land, and make sure nothing is below that area, hidden, like a silo of TNT. In other words, make sure the only thing that could create the mushroom cloud is that one A-bomb, nothing else.

I would even accept public videos of such an event, if they can be proven to be independent, and transparent.

It's always fishy when they never show it to the public, make fake videos, and so on. Truth doesn't need to hide, to be faked, like this. It means, in virtually all cases, that it IS faked. And I'm sure this is all faked, as well.



As I said before, even then you will chose to say it was faked for you! What are you going to inspect on that land in person? Bomb craters? What otherwise that the comic thing about not having some rooms underground?

This looks like a comic from the 50's! All proof you need is to stand there!

So in the end is, a bomb exists if your eyes see it live, otherwise it doesn't exist?

Will everyone believe you once you tell them you saw it live? Or will they laugh at you and tell you off?

Are you going to be another one of "Soylent Green Is People!" person?

How do you know if other people did the same before you?

This is weak, i though you were like someone with actual facts other than "i need to stand up there and cause a massive destruction of the world just because i am foolishly self entitled and the world turns around my lack of knowledge"

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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 04:18 AM
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Here's what Tokyo looked like before they 'nuked' anything...

www.theatlantic.com...



Eerily familiar, indeed.



posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 04:19 AM
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originally posted by: turbonium1
Here's what Tokyo looked like before they 'nuked' anything...

www.theatlantic.com...



Eerily familiar, indeed.


Here's how you looked up before you managed to fail at common knowledge in middle school

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And here's how you look after

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posted on Sep, 15 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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the WORLD decided as a whole to stop blowing up nuclear weapons, its call the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.


our national labs have the worlds biggest supercomputers to simulate new and replacement nuclear warheads, or did they pay billions of dollars to play crysis at max settings?


the only way your going to see a nuke go off is over your head i.e the last thing you'll ever see.

there is no way to keep a tiny bomb in frame and the explosion created in frame by the same camera due to the size of the explosions so you could always say they edited it.

i posted a video that shows a nuke going off 10,000 feet in the air, how did they get the 10,000 TONS of TNT into the air but keep it invisible?

do you know how a smoke detector works? you admitted that radiation kills, what do you think it is that kills a person exposed to it?


those two questions might seem unrelated, but they aren't.


all a nuclear explosion is a release of energy created by the small particles breaking apart atoms in a cascade. like dominos.

its not magic.
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