The flat earth conspiracy

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

Or the image could be through a device with no magnification, who’s special attribute is it’s filtering capabilities.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

You

This is the sun viewed from earth through a telescope:

Do you see how much they had to enlarge the image with a telescope?

Your picture looks lots like this photo


solarsystem.nasa.gov...

From the SDO

Solar Dynamics Observatory

en.m.wikipedia.org...

After launch, the spacecraft was placed into an orbit around the Earth with an initial perigee of about 2,500 kilometres (1,600 mi). SDO then underwent a series of orbit-raising maneuvers which adjusted its orbit until the spacecraft reached its planned circular, geosynchronous orbit at an altitude of 35,789 kilometres (22,238 mi), at 102° W longitude, inclined at 28.5°.[23] This orbit was chosen to allow 24/7 communications to/from the fixed ground station, and to minimise solar eclipses to about an hour a day for only a few weeks a year.

What was your point again?

Believe everything you read.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

yes you're a contrarian.

a reply to: puzzled2

What does it even mean when you're contrary to the contrarians? Sheeple? Don't you like this system of categorizing people neatly in boxes?

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

See I'm right you just wish to be contrary.

a reply to: puzzled2

I never said you're right about anything. Reap the fruits of being right.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
Believe everything you read.

Not by you when your willing to lie about where a picture is taken from you.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

didn't say you said anything. But thank you for the confirmation.

a reply to: turbonium1

So your false arguments are not lost...

a reply to: turbonium1

You

We do NOT have an 'infinite view' of all objects above massively large flat surfaces, like the Earth, even with magnification. Although it helps to see objects we can NOT see by eye, in the distance, like your 'ships vanishing over the Earth's curve' can suddenly appear, once more, by using such scopes!

It’s not even the F’n argument.

The sun is large and well visible when it sets. It doesn’t get smaller to the point it winks out of sight. Flat earth sunset would look like this. The sun goes out of sight because it sets below the curve of the earth. The earth physically blocks it from view.

Again...

The question you will not answer.
Again. How can a point high above one’s head viewed while standing on a flat plane look to go below that plane’s horizon by simply moving farther away along the flat plane. Please provide geometry proof.



Now. Your the one going on about how big the earth is. Right?

To circle around the South Pole on the flat earth delusion, its circumstance is at least one or two magnitudes greater than the circumstance around the north pole? Is that false.

So when the South Pole has 24 hours of sun light, how do cities like Quito, Ecuador on the equator still have about the same amount of light and darkness each day? With the sun traveling the sky with the same amount of speed from spring, summer, fall, and winter?

Your own flat earth delusion bit you in the A$$. Your either to ignorant to get it, or just want to keep lying to yourself.

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You think the sun at sun set would keep sliding westward until it is too small to see? Is that a false statement concerning flat earth “sunset”?



That is not what happens in the real world





In the real world. The sun doesn’t get too small to see because it slides of into the distance.

The sun drops below the horizon without any perceived change in size to be physically blocked by the curvature of the earth. The sun setting below the horizon is a property of spherical earth. Not flat earth. Sorry.

originally posted by: puzzled2
a reply to: turbonium1

SO you haven't been to a launch site or have you?

You've said you've been on a plane. So assume you looked out of the window. Did you see the ground after 5+ minutes from take off? well that was a pretty easy thing to do due to the size of the ground and your speed and low height.

Now a rocket is travelling pretty fast and is really small so from the ground it is hard to see, without a very good telescope and a steady hand to follow the trajectory.

How fast
www.nasa.gov..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">NASA - Archive


The Space Shuttle speed goes from 0 mph to 17,500 mph in 8.5 minutes (this is when the external fuel tank separates from the Shuttle). Two minutes after launch the solid rocket boosters separate; at this time the speed is 3,438 mph and increasing rapidly. While in orbit the Shuttle's speed is 17,500 mph.

So until you get to a launch site and do the filming for yourself and us we can't believe you that the rocket vanishes and the earth is flat. After all you don't believe anyone else's evidence so you must produce it - not just say it produce it.

Go to a launch site??!? That's supposed to prove a rocket goes into 'orbit'?

How do you know the Space Shuttle goes from 0 to 17,500 mph in 8 minutes? Have you ever seen or filmed it, to make such a claim?

Nobody has seen or filmed it from Earth, so why do you make claims, without a shred of proof?


Get serious.

a reply to: turbonium1


as you cite the space shutle - where did it go ?

your previous claims = " rockets crash into the ocean "

so - it begs the question - where was the shuttle orbiter during its missions


it took of with fuel tanks and boosters and landed without them in another location - its descent could be tracked

where was it ?

to answer an aerlier trollish bleating :

YOU claim the sun is 10000 km above an imaginary flat plane

YOU cited a flat earth map that puts the size of the earth at 20000km radius

hint - the distance from true north pole > equator = 10000km

your own claims demonstrate your " arguments " are a farce

originally posted by: neutronflux
The sun drops below the horizon without any perceived change in size to be physically blocked by the curvature of the earth. The sun setting below the horizon is a property of spherical earth. Not flat earth. Sorry.

Then you claim the horizon IS Earth's 'curvature', because the Sun disappears behind it, or below it, correct?

It's exactly why I showed how the horizon is completely flat, and straight, for 209 miles across Earth, as seen atop Mt. Everest. There is NO curve at all, and proves Earth is flat.

You suggest the Sun is about the same size until it 'goes beyond/below Earth's curvature', or beyond the horizon, which is utter nonsense.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: turbonium1


as you cite the space shutle - where did it go ?

your previous claims = " rockets crash into the ocean "

so - it begs the question - where was the shuttle orbiter during its missions


it took of with fuel tanks and boosters and landed without them in another location - its descent could be tracked

where was it ?

You don't know? Why not?

Nobody knows, because nobody ever sees it, or films it, beyond the launch site!

If NASA told us where to see it, beyond the launch site, everyone would go out, see it, film it, and I wouldn't be arguing about it, but they NEVER have told us, and NEVER WILL tell us, if it's a daytime/morning launch!


Why would you suppose it's a secret, then? No reason?

Look at SpaceX, which just launched a week ago.

Did they tell us where to see it, after it launched? Just at the launch site, and not anywhere else.

Would we be able to see it from the ocean, a few minutes after launch?

Why didn't anyone see it, or film it, from the ocean?

Because they didn't tell us where it COULD be seen, from the ocean, and have NEVER told us where to see a rocket from the ocean, after launch!


They keep it secret, and why would it be a secret, if it was actually true, and 1005 authentic...like you believe it is?


How can you believe them, is truly bizarre.

a reply to: turbonium1

Any chance of a reply?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: turbonium1

With all due respect I could ask you quite a few questions based on the posts you have just made.
I could ask you quite a lot of questions if I could be arsed to trawl through all your posts in this good for laughs thread.

I'll ignore the nonsensical replies you have made to previous questions I have asked you or the numerous questions you have conveniently ignored and failed to answer at all.

But could you please provide some sort of evidence for how you believe the Sun travels around this Flat Earth environment, what orbit or whatever it follows and what forces are at play that make it act in such a manner.
Could you also explain how all that ties in with the four seasons as witnessed since records began all over the earth and how the exact opposite season be observed at any given time from any two opposing points - antipodes.
Some sort of graphic or video or simple visual aid to help explain and support your theory would be greatly appreciated.

en.wikipedia.org...#/media/File:Antipodes_LAEA.png
en.wikipedia.org...

As for you comment about 'magical tilting of the earth'; there's nothing magical about it - wonderous, amazing or awe inspiring would be more suitable.
I've provided links to this video before but I suspect you won't have taken the time to watch it for fear of what it shows in such simple laymans terms that even an intellectual minnow like myself can understand.

vimeo.com...

I've also posted again a link to the real shape of the earth for no other reason than I think its cool.
Please take the time to watch them both, you may actually enjoy doing so.

vimeo.com...

Nobody knows how life was created on Earth, or how Earth was created, or how the Sun, stars, etc. are created, moving above Earth in patterns, or so on. You don't know how life was created, either, but you don't require proof that life exists, to know it exists.

Nobody knows how the Sun, and Earth, came to exist, either, but they do exist.

I'd like to know where to see a rocket above me, after the first 4-5 minutes....wouldn't you?

Think hard.

a reply to: turbonium1

What are you babbling about? If the sun drops below the horizon out of sight, why would you see anything beyond that when the sun is blocked? If you’re In the tallest mountain range by altitude, it’s not a true horizon like the sea. It’s a a chaotic mess of dips and peaks.

The argument is the sun would not set for a flat earth

Sad you keep lying what the actual argument is.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: turbonium1

So your false arguments are not lost...

a reply to: turbonium1

You

We do NOT have an 'infinite view' of all objects above massively large flat surfaces, like the Earth, even with magnification. Although it helps to see objects we can NOT see by eye, in the distance, like your 'ships vanishing over the Earth's curve' can suddenly appear, once more, by using such scopes!

It’s not even the F’n argument.

The sun is large and well visible when it sets. It doesn’t get smaller to the point it winks out of sight. Flat earth sunset would look like this. The sun goes out of sight because it sets below the curve of the earth. The earth physically blocks it from view.

Again...

The question you will not answer.
Again. How can a point high above one’s head viewed while standing on a flat plane look to go below that plane’s horizon by simply moving farther away along the flat plane. Please provide geometry proof.



Now. Your the one going on about how big the earth is. Right?

To circle around the South Pole on the flat earth delusion, its circumstance is at least one or two magnitudes greater than the circumstance around the north pole? Is that false.

So when the South Pole has 24 hours of sun light, how do cities like Quito, Ecuador on the equator still have about the same amount of light and darkness each day? With the sun traveling the sky with the same amount of speed from spring, summer, fall, and winter?

Your own flat earth delusion bit you in the A$$. Your either to ignorant to get it, or just want to keep lying to yourself.

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You think the sun at sun set would keep sliding westward until it is too small to see? Is that a false statement concerning flat earth “sunset”?



That is not what happens in the real world





In the real world. The sun doesn’t get too small to see because it slides of into the distance.

The sun drops below the horizon without any perceived change in size to be physically blocked by the curvature of the earth. The sun setting below the horizon is a property of spherical earth. Not flat earth. Sorry.