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Obama, Comey Relied On Discredited Dossier To Obtain FISA Warrant On Trump Campaign

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posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 06:38 AM
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The FBI last year used a dossier of allegations of Russian ties to Donald Trump's campaign as part of the justification to win approval to secretly monitor a Trump associate, according to US officials briefed on the investigation.
The dossier has also been cited by FBI Director James Comey in some of his briefings to members of Congress in recent weeks, as one of the sources of information the bureau has used to bolster its investigation, according to US officials briefed on the probe.
This includes approval from the secret court that oversees the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to monitor the communications of Carter Page, two of the officials said. Last year, Page was identified by the Trump campaign as an adviser on national security.





The dossier, compiled by ex-British intelligence official Chris Steele, was almost immediately discredited by the public at large after numerous glaring errors were quickly identified and salicious stories of 'golden showers' and other sexual acts were also dismissed as pure rubbish.





All of which, once again, brings into question the level of stupidity and/or pure corruption that must have been involved in this process given the shear number of people whose approval was undoubtedly required to authorize the issuance of a FISA warrant that paved the way for Comey and the Obama administration to secretly monitor the Trump campaign.





"I look forward to the Privacy Act of 1974 lawsuit that I plan to file in response to the civil rights violations by Obama administration appointees last year. The discovery process will be of great value to the United States, as our nation hears testimony from them under oath and we receive disclosure of the documents which show what exactly was done in 2016."

Carter Page


www.zerohedge.com...

thehill.com...

www.cnn.com...



Buck




posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 07:26 AM
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Great post, the thing I don't understand is how the media gets access to the application for the warrant. The articles quote the application in several places. I thought that the entire process was secret.

So what's up with that?



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: whywhynot

Once its filed it become a document of public record.
One side or the other can request that it be sealed, but so far that is not been done.
Information that is revealed during Discovery may or may not be disclosed. Leaky, leak .

Buck



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 07:46 AM
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I have suspected something like this from the very beginning.
My original thought was, have the media push the russian collusion until it becomes a fact to the people, then the spying has a purpose.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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Do you have a link to the doc? That would be interesting. Thanks for the reply!a reply to: flatbush71



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:10 AM
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Do you have a link to the doc? That would be interesting. Thanks for the reply!a reply to: flatbush71



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:17 AM
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Which doc are you asking for ?
Cater Page's civil rights suit has yet to be filed.

Here's the link to the fictitious Steel report.

www.documentcloud.org...

Buck



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: flatbush71

Wow.
So Obama generates his own fake news in order to illegally get FISA warrants...in order to disseminate and leak more fake news.

Perpetual motion 'Vicious Fake News Cycle' created to use against political opponents.

Stalin would've been proud.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:32 AM
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The dossier, which BuzzFeed published in January, remains largely unsubstantiated. CNN reported in February, however, that multiple unnamed U.S. intelligence sources had corroborated some communications detailed in the document. On Tuesday, CNN reported that unnamed officials familiar with the process of obtaining a FISA warrant said that the FBI would only include information from the dossier in its application after corroborating that data through its own investigation.

talkingpointsmemo.com...

So much for your "discredited" claim.

I hope every one of these disgusting greedy traitorous sons of diseased whores die in prison.

K~



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

You have learned well Grass Hopper, it is now time for you to run for office.

Buck


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posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:34 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: flatbush71

Wow.
So Obama generates his own fake news in order to illegally get FISA warrants...in order to disseminate and leak more fake news.

Perpetual motion 'Vicious Fake News Cycle' created to use against political opponents.

Stalin would've been proud.


Well, he did make it legal to use propaganda and lies in the media.
edit on 4192017 by Natas0114 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:42 AM
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a reply to: flatbush71

That is not what the articles say at all...

The articles clearly state that the dossier was just one of the things that the FBI used as evidence to Legally obtain a fisa Warrent.

They do not say that "they relied on that one single price of evidence to obtain a warrant..."

Nor do they say the dossier has been discredited...

This is the same propaganda as when Trump and his deciples claimed that comey said..

"Russia didn't interfere in our elections."

When comey actually said :

"Russia absolutely interfered on behalf of trump against both hillary and the republicans during the nomination process. That there was absolutely a legal FBI investigation of trump , but Russia wasn't able to actually hack the voting machines."


Propaganda 101..



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: flatbush71

Wow.
So Obama generates his own fake news in order to illegally get FISA warrants...in order to disseminate and leak more fake news.

Perpetual motion 'Vicious Fake News Cycle' created to use against political opponents.

Stalin would've been proud.




None of the articles actually say that...

They actually say the dossier was just one of the pieces of evidence used to get the fisa warrant..and they do not say the dossier has been discredited..

The articles really say that the investigation was legal with multiple nations intelligence agencies all finding the same things..



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:07 AM
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Sounds like a British ex spy was hired to create (IOW... fake) a reason for Obama to get FISA warrant to spy on the Trump campaign for Hillary.

But that was obvious before this news.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:15 AM
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Bull. The dossier has not been discredited.
Try again.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:15 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox


Ummm...which is exactly what the OP title...the article and the OP...stated...

They all clearly stated that the dossier in question was relied upon...NOT that it was the only piece of evidence relied upon...
Obviously a distinct difference there...

So the OP and the rest of us thank you for stating precisely what was stated in the OP the OP title and the article...

Kudo's




YouSir
edit on 19-4-2017 by YouSir because: of an unnessary redundancy...



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: whywhynot

Ut oh..
Fake news.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:19 AM
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Only .031% of all FISA requests are turned down.

You WANT a warrant; you GET a warrant.
Basically, you can get your warrant request granted by showing the judge evidence your 5 yr. old wrote.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: flatbush71

We should be thankful that they actually bothered to get a warrant.

The vast majority of the spying on citizens by our public servants and unelected bureaucrats occurs without warrants.



posted on Apr, 19 2017 @ 10:44 AM
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a reply to: flatbush71

It's not fictitious. You can say it all day and night but it won't make it fictitious.

The closest you can come to that is that some parts are unverified. (And that is changing all the time)
That's a big difference from fictitious.
But I understand your need.
The fact that it was presented to the president is enough to say they considered it worth looking into.
You guys seem to think it's all just fun and games in DC and that they are all clowns in a little car who don't know what they're doing. Bull. They weren't playing games and this dossier is not some bit of funny business.
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