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posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: beetee

The unclassified UAV fleet anyway. There are several classified systems that have evidence of being out there.




posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Yes, you're right of course. I guess I just don't like these UAVs. Maybe because I love the A-10 so much :-)

BT



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: beetee

Oh you'd like them a lot more if they declassified a couple of them.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: beetee
Yeah well its the airforce, logic and reason only takes so far. The development and procurement process is screwed beyond belief and things didnt look much different decades ago.
Especially when it comes to black projects. The amount of ressources sunk into stuff that didnt result in some sort of operational capability has always been mindblowing.
So yes, while some sort of operational BSAX craft - which may or may not be related to the original escort aircraft for the Nightawk – would be a great asset it doesnt mean it exists.
Based on the myriads of other projects, its far more likey that they managed to f*k it up somehow along the way.

But who knows… if BSAX went anywhere i’d put my money on the Wichita sighting not the Companion.
One thing is certain, Northrop had something going to stay afloat after the B-2 got cancelled and the YF-23 never went anywhere as far as we know. They even aquired Grumman and Teledyne Ryan during the Nineties.


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posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58
So you 'think' they've got a VLO UCAV program going?
Besides the 'RQ-180' and the Avenger of course which i suspect is flying for the CIA?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: mightmight

Oh, I know of a few UAV programs. We caught one a couple years ago at Tonopah. I'm pretty sure it's VLO. Only caught it on the ramp and in the afternoon so couldn't get a shot of it through the haze.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

Zaph, do you think any manned projects from 80s/90s that are still flying out of Tonopah to this day?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: SpeedFanatic

The F-117s.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 06:07 PM
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What about that VTOL?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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I wondered if they would get the F-117 back to help deal with NK, I suppose it's a nice idea putting them in semi retired storage, but once you start re-certifying and rebuilding them, could you keep this as screw as their production?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 08:59 PM
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a reply to: Forensick

The ones that haven't been flown would need 6-9 months minimum to return to flight status.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: beetee
a reply to: mightmight

Sort of, hey watch this... Gotcha!

BT



Possibly reading too much into your post - but wasn't there a project that was informally renamed "Gotcha" that has something to do with all this?

You also mention something Sneaky....as far as I can tell from interweb research, Sneaky Pete probably did fly and (it or its never revealed successors) would have also potentially been operational in the required timeframe.

a reply to: penroc3

Had a bit of a dig around in VTOL and the trail ran dry after SOFA/SOFTA.
Only additional tidbit I found that isnt already posted on here was a link from secret projects to a pdf of a 1980's study into advancing crew ejection systems using future concepts:




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posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 05:08 AM
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Here is what I have collected over the years..



and this...



Sighting report: rense.com...

then we have another quotes:


originally posted by: GroomLakePolishFAN

You wrote in Aurora thread something about plane which is not as diamondy and it's longer that F-117 but wing span is close to it. So maybe these sightings were to aircraft you described.

originally posted by: boomer135
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Perhaps...



I suppose that "plane that is not as diamondy and is longer than F-117" is mentioned in this post:


originally posted by: boomer135

It's actually kind of funny...it's on the internet today. Just the public doesn't know its real. It is different from the 117 in shape and size. It's not as diamondy (if i can make up a word) as the 117. And I would say that it's longer but the wing span is close to the 117



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posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 07:09 PM
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a reply to: SpeedFanatic

I think I've dropped quite a few clues in my posting here as to what the actual designation would be it just no ones really picked up on it lol



posted on Apr, 24 2017 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: SpeedFanatic

There have been rumors of a manned version of Boeing's phantom ray. That outline reminds me a ton of what little I've seen about it.



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: Jukiodone

I was using the term "gotcha" colloquially, alluding to the possibility of having something totally unknown creeping around providing the real capabilities, while the opposition is hunting for the supposedly top of the line assets. Don't know how viable it is, of course, but those drones seems awfully expensive for a platform that cannot be used in a non permissive environment with any degree of survivability.

Are you thinking about Goals, Objectives, Technical Challenges, and Approaches-based ("GOTChA) synthetic aperture radar sensor?

This article talks about it being part of AngelFire, or complimentary to it providing all weather and night sensor capability in addition to optical.



Angel Fire provides "Google Earth and TiVo-like capabilities on steroids" to the ground commander.


The long time goal of AngelFire was apparently to put it on a UAV of some sort.

According to this piece "Sneaky Pete", was a flying wing prototype by General Dynamics.

The main article, however, is about "Sneeky Pete" by Task Research/Scaled Composites. "The Worlds Oldest Known Flying Pig".

Now, there is a patch with some serious heraldry.

Don't know how relevant it is to the current discussion, but allegedly the program(s) might well be connected to deep intrusion (recon) - as alluded to pretty coarsely by the program name (perhaps).

The patch, in any case, is glorious.

BT



posted on Apr, 26 2017 @ 04:19 AM
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Sneeky Pete probably went into UAV,s for sure.And most likely still used as a Recon bird for long loiter.Would be interesting to discuss that patch and its meanings.
The "bigger Diamond" shaped F1117 has had fingers "publicly" looking towards the A11 Astra.But the name is in same ballpark as Tr3b apparently.Sightings have been noted as F117 shape but 1.5 to 2 x bigger.
Cant forget looking at Scaled resume through Ng,s Senior Citizen as a possible contender.
edit on 26-4-2017 by Blackfinger because: added a bit



posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Blackfinger

And you may be right on that


Well, here is what someone wrote on ATS about 15 years ago... it was believed that so-called '1.5 to 2x bigger F-117' served as a LO Transport for Special Forces.

Few shots:






posted on Apr, 27 2017 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: SpeedFanatic

Somebody watched Executive Orders once too often.



posted on Apr, 28 2017 @ 01:34 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: SpeedFanatic

Somebody watched Executive Orders once too often.


You mean it as a fail in this case?



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