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Freedom of Speech and Freedom from Consequences.

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posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5




The better word for rhetorical control is manipulation.

Where convincing someone of something results in predictable results.

Let's say for example that someone launches a rhetorical campaign aimed at convincing others that any challenge to a chosen rhetorical theme is not free speech, but actually that speech is suppressing free speech!

Any Free Speech that follows your free speech, is not free speech, but oppression..

I know it sounds ridiculous. But people actually try to sell that nonsense..Some people even create OPs on ATS trying to sell that very idea.


I'm trying to understand your insult but it makes little sense. And here I thought words were supposed to be powerful.




posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




Huh? What is your point?


You said Hitler used logic and evidence. I said Hitler painted. I thought we were sharing Hitler notes.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Indigo5




The better word for rhetorical control is manipulation.

Where convincing someone of something results in predictable results.

Let's say for example that someone launches a rhetorical campaign aimed at convincing others that any challenge to a chosen rhetorical theme is not free speech, but actually that speech is suppressing free speech!

Any Free Speech that follows your free speech, is not free speech, but oppression..

I know it sounds ridiculous. But people actually try to sell that nonsense..Some people even create OPs on ATS trying to sell that very idea.


I'm trying to understand your insult but it makes little sense. And here I thought words were supposed to be powerful.


Interesting you thought that post an insult to you...How so?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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Interesting you thought that post an insult to you...How so?


Apologies if I am wrong. I assumed.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:00 PM
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Answer: a thing said, written, or done to deal with or as a reaction to a question, statement, or situation.

There doesn't have to be a question.


Do you know the difference between a verb and noun?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Tyranny of the reader.

Guess you are not free from consequences, oooohhhh your in trouble.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So Hitler dazzled his people with his painting? Is that your point?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: Deaf Alien




So Hitler dazzled his people with his painting? Is that your point?


No. Are you saying he dazzled them with logic and evidence?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

We are talking about convincing people.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Yes, I also understand that it was a mistake, just like you responding in singular when the statement you were replying to was plural.

Of course, nobody actually trolled you because of it.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:05 PM
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We are talking about convincing people.


Is that your point? That Hitler dazzled everyone with logic and evidence?

Maybe you can tell me your point.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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Yes, I also understand that it was a mistake, just like you responding in singular when the statement you were replying to was plural.

Of course, nobody actually trolled you because of it.


I wish they would. I prefer that others would tell me when I made a mistake.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:06 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Have you forgotten the poster's original point? If you can convince people that they are under your power, you are in power.

Either you are deliberately trying to ignore and deflect or you really do not understand the point completely.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:07 PM
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Have you forgotten the poster's original point? If you can convince people that they are under your power, you are in power.

Either you are deliberately trying to ignore and deflect or you really do not understand the point completely.


No, I remember. Maybe as an experiment, you can convince me of something so that you can derive power, or control me, or whatever it is.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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No, I remember. Maybe as an experiment, you can convince me of something so that you can derive power, or control me, or whatever it is.

Again let me repeat my question. Are you or are you not easily swayed? Yes or no? Quite simple.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:09 PM
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Again let me repeat my question. Are you or are you not easily swayed? Yes or no? Quite simple.


And I will answer again, yes, by logic and evidence.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

So you will be swayed into believing that you are under my power and that you will do whatever I tell you?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Why not just accept a historical example?



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

Because he doesn't want to admit it.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 05:11 PM
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So you will be swayed into believing that you are under my power and that you will do whatever I tell you?


Give it a shot.



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