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posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

I think it will have a huge impact on violent crime in Alabama. Time will tell.


I think it will actually have the effect of those CCW carriers shooting innocent people either because of mistaken identity or because they get into an argument and feel that it is their right to shoot the other person.


No, that happens in Illinois and Chicago which have the strictest gun laws in the country. Those laws don't prevent innocent people being shot by the dozens in that very enlightened city and state. The more guns, the less crime. Look it up.




posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: blueyedevilwoman

So your answer to the FACTS I posted is to make up more nonsense then finish with something so ridiculous that it is laughable at best?

Like I said before, you will fail dismally. And you have.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:49 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.


Is it on display in Chicago IL?
Los Angeles?

Arguably the toughest gun controlled areas in the United States and population about 1-2 million above your own entire country.

Even if you were to start some sort of stricter gun legislation you would do nothing to the millions and millions of guns already in circulation here. They are a part of our national fabric.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:52 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: blueyedevilwoman

So your answer to the FACTS I posted is to make up more nonsense then finish with something so ridiculous that it is laughable at best?

Like I said before, you will fail dismally. And you have.


Lol.....nonsense?

Failed at what?



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:53 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.


Keep them running away skills up to date whatever you do



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

The proof is in the "per capita" statistics which takes into account population differences and evens them out to give an accurate view.

"Per capita", in countries like the UK, Australia and other nations with strict gun control, it is proven that gun crime, and actually crime in general, is far lower than anywhere in America.

That's not even including the fact that in Australia, for instance, we haven't had a SINGLE mass shooting since the Port Arthur massacre that made us tighten up the laws in the first place. Facts are facts.

We also don't feel the need to carry concealed weapons for defense because there is very little chance anyone else around us has one. It is extremely hard to obtain them illegally here, and extremely (almost prohibitively) expensive due to their illegality without a proper firearms license. Oh and we don't distrust our fellow citizens as much as Americans seem to distrust everyone around them.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.


Keep them running away skills up to date whatever you do


Run away from what? LOLOL. We don't fear for our lives like you Americans do. Just how many enemies do you have? lolololol
edit on 18/4/2017 by Kryties because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.


I'm not advocating anything, but just pointing out - our largest city has a population of one million. We also have a better standard of living, wages, education, healthcare, etc. (Despite all the bogans you see wandering around.) America suffers with cities of 20million odd people, living all condensed together, going crazy because they're lucky to earn $12 an hour, and have other lifestyle issues that we take for granted. (hooray, for our horrible bad wrong socialist country. (sarcasm))

There are other reasons, apart from our gun laws, that assist with our lower crime.

Just refreshed the page before entering, saw this:

We also don't feel the need to carry concealed weapons for defense because there is very little chance anyone else around us has one. It is extremely hard to obtain them illegally here, and extremely (almost prohibitively) expensive due to their illegality without a proper firearms license. Oh and we don't distrust our fellow citizens as much as Americans seem to distrust everyone around them.


So very very true.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:06 PM
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I'm well aware of per capita instances. We've had these discussions before
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It is proven that in a country that has ALWAYS had limited guns and well established laws that it is working for them/you.

Here in the US we have always had guns, in fact, it is in our constitution that that right be not infringed. As I've stated, doing anything now does little to the already established gun tallies and the constitutional amendment.

Subjective reasoning doesn't aid anyone in this conversation. How you think other's feel about others is of little value to the OP.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Except we haven't ALWAYS had limited guns. Prior to the Port Arthur massacre our gun laws were almost as lax as yours over there. Then 30 or so people got blown away by a nutjob with an assault rifle in Tasmania and we instituted the strict laws. Since then, not a single mass shooting.

It doesn't take a genius to work out why.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: kaelci

I agree. I'm not saying it is the total and only reason our crime rates are lower, but it is a significant factor.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: JinMI

Except we haven't ALWAYS had limited guns. Prior to the Port Arthur massacre our gun laws were almost as lax as yours over there. Then 30 or so people got blown away by a nutjob with an assault rifle in Tasmania and we instituted the strict laws. Since then, not a single mass shooting.

It doesn't take a genius to work out why.



Gun laws were the responsibility of each colony and, since Federation in 1901, of each state. The Commonwealth does not have constitutional authority over firearms, but it has jurisdiction over customs and defence matters. Federally the external affairs powers can be used to enforce internal control over matters agreed in external treaties.[citation needed]

In New South Wales, handguns were effectively banned after World War II but the 1956 Melbourne Olympic Games sparked a new interest in the sport of pistol shooting and laws were changed to allow the sport to develop.

State gun laws varied widely. Western Australia and the Northern Territory had restrictions even on sporting rifles and shotguns, but in Queensland and Tasmania they could be bought without restrictions.[citation needed]

Fully automatic guns were banned on most of the Australian mainland from the 1930s, but remained legal in Tasmania until 1996.[citation needed]

In the 1940s and 1950s, Cold War concerns about ex-military rifles falling into the hands of communist radicals led New South Wales to place restrictions on the legal ownership of rifles of a military calibre (see: .303/25) while members of rifle clubs and military rifle clubs could own ex-military rifles.[citation needed] In the 1970s these restrictions were relaxed in New South Wales and military style rifles (both bolt-action and semi-automatic) once again became widely available, except in Western Australia and the Northern Territory.[citation needed]

Gun control activism in Australia became organised with the formation in 1981 of the "Committee to Control Gun Misuse" in Victoria, later to become Gun Control Australia.

en.wikipedia.org...

No, not the same, not at all.

The logic behind if there were no guns, there would be no gun crime is true. As per usual, I would not argue that.

However, that is simply not the case nor would it now ever be here in the states. What this boils down to is a few key things outside of the given constitutional amendment.

What triggers someone to go on these killing sprees. Religion? Oppression? Drugs (legal and illegal)?

Whom are the victims? I would say mostly average Americans.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: blueyedevilwoman

Are you conveniently forgetting all the mass shootings that happen in America on a semi-regular basis? None of that here. The difference? Strict gun control.

We have had a few one-off incidents that we have dealt with and will endeavor not to let happen again by changing the laws to suit, however the timer is ticking down until the next mass shooting in America with little or no will to stop it from much of the American populace. It's almost as if you like mass shootings or something.


Are you conveniently forgetting that murder is illegal, and has been for a long time.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: Kryties




Like I said before, you will fail dismally. And you have.


The only fail here is foreigners telling Americans what their laws should be.


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posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Kryties




Like I said before, you will fail dismally. And you have.


The only fail here is foreigners telling Americans what their laws should be.



Oh, you mean like how America goes around the world telling other countries what their laws should be? And if some of those countries don't agree you send in the CIA and military to destabilize and destroy them? Just like that.

Hypocrisy at its finest.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: blueyedevilwoman

originally posted by: Kryties
a reply to: schuyler

I don't need to look it up mate, the evidence of less crime due to strict gun control is on display in my country on a daily basis. I just have to use my eyes and ears to see and hear the proof every day of my life that it does indeed work.


Keep them running away skills up to date whatever you do


Run away from what? LOLOL.


Yeah run away, like a little girl....roflmao

youtu.be...

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posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:33 PM
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a reply to: Kryties

IF America doesn't have the right why do you have the right ?

Yeah that's some HYPOCRISY!



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Kryties




Like I said before, you will fail dismally. And you have.


The only fail here is foreigners telling Americans what their laws should be.



Oh, you mean like how America goes around the world telling other countries what their laws should be? And if some of those countries don't agree you send in the CIA and military to destabilize and destroy them? Just like that.

Hypocrisy at its finest.


Law of the jungle.
We didnt write it.

Might has right.



posted on Apr, 18 2017 @ 07:36 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Kryties

IF America doesn't have the right why do you have the right ?

Yeah that's some HYPOCRISY!


Lol burn baby burn



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