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Woke up this morning to clear blue/sunny skies only to see a massive chemtrail being sprayed

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posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 09:14 AM
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Firstly HAARP is shut down and has been for a while. Second, fronts coming in help the formation of contrails and, often bring rain.




posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 09:22 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy
Maybe that's just what they want you to believe lol. Thanks for the info



posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: freedom7

No chemtrail believer has ever offered to fly a plane up to one of those "chemtrails" to test the contents.


Because people don't want to get shot down ?

How would you get shot down by a vapor trail left by a plane that isn't there anymore?


Like it or not, you cannot claim all of these "trails" are the same.

Yes. I can. You have to prove they are different to demonstrate that is the case. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.



posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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I think he means that if anyone tried to do this their plane would be shot down by TPTB, CIA or whoever. Probably by a black helicopter or something.



posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

Convenient excuse not to test your hypothesis. Too bad I won't believe a word you say until you stop using it and actually test these vapor trails.



posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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a reply to: ConscienceZombie




Normally when I see them it rains in the next few days. Keep your eye out for rain. May take a day or two but you WILL get rain.


You've nearly grasped the concept of contrails....well done!

Weather conditions ripe for contrails to form inevitably mean that a weather system is moving in.....if a weather system is moving in that means that clouds will be forming, clouds forming usually mean it's going to rain!

The contrails don't influence the weather....the weather influences the contrails.



posted on Apr, 20 2017 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: anonfamily
a reply to: Imagewerx

LOL, you clearly didn't catch the intention of my reply. It was not meant for you to reply, it was meant for freedom7 to question his/her own beliefs.

I already know there are two different types of contrails; aerodynamic and exhaust. The helicopter is forming both types of contrails, with the most prominent ones being the aerodynamic contrails coming from the sides of the main rotor blades due to rapid air pressure increase and then drop at the rotor tips which causes the water vapor to quickly condense and create ice crystals.

But yeah, I think you are too eager to tell people what contrails are, which obviously doesn't work on these people. You need to change your tactics a bit, and get them to contradict themselves and question their understanding.



My apologies,I only had about 5 minutes to read all the new posts and reply to just one of them.I really do worry for the prolonged future of the human race when people are actually scared of clouds and take Youtube videos as empirical evidence that these clouds are going to harm them.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 04:03 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t
Eh? Are you confusing me with someone else? I thought it was obvious that I am not a Chemtard and that I was being sarcastic. Check the winky face emoticon.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 07:08 AM
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a reply to: oldcarpy

Sorry. My bad. You know how it can be expressing sarcasm on the internet sometimes.



posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

That's kind of you to post, thanks!




posted on Apr, 21 2017 @ 02:42 PM
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originally posted by: panicman66


Now...i am open to the fact that something is going on here. I have seen a unmarked plane over Worksop North Nottinghamshire UK, that was completing con/chem-trails circles above Worksop. It was just going around and around creating these trails on sunny spring morning with no wind.

A few weeks later i was visiting my cousin. He told me about what he and his father saw above the village on similar day. A plane was creating large circular trails. His father was so concerned about this, that he phoned Manchester airport and tried to find out who was flying above and doing this. He was told not worry blah blah blah. Fortunately he took photos and filmed it.

So what were they doing?.....



Have you really seen an unmarked plane over Worksop? This is one of the many claims that chemtrail believers make and it really is completely wrong. What were you using to view the aircraft? Even with binoculars or top quality camera lenses it can be hard to make out aircraft markings. Some military aircraft have low visibility markings and some commercial airliners have very small registrations. For example one of the many claims from chemtrailers is that they see an all white aircraft and claim that is unmarked. There is nothing remarkable about an all white airliner. Many operators lease aircraft from other airlines and companies. All the aircraft carry registration markings/serials in accordance with the regulations of their country. THe other claims is that these all white unmarked aircraft have no windows. Again there is nothing remarkable about cargo variants of airliners not having rows of passenger windows. Sadly because they don't have the aviation knowledge they jump to the wrong conclusion.

For example all white airliner in cargo fit. The aircraft is carrying all the registration it requires. It doesn't carry the registration under the wings.

Boeing 747 cargo all white

Airbus A310 airliner all white

Also there is nothing unusual about an aircraft flying in circles.

I live in Lincolnshire to the east of you and see regular aircraft leaving circular contrails. E-3 Sentry AWACS and Sentinel military aircraft fly in orbits to remain on station and use their equipment. There is nothing remarkable about them doing so.

Circles in the sky over Lincolnshire - Louth

Circles in the sky over Lincolnshire

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Racetrack contrails

Commercial aircraft can also be placed in holding patterns. Excellent example from Italy with match up with flight tracking software.

Metabunk link - Airliners Italy holding patterns








edit on 21/4/2017 by tommyjo because: spelling



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 06:09 PM
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originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: ConscienceZombie




Normally when I see them it rains in the next few days. Keep your eye out for rain. May take a day or two but you WILL get rain.


You've nearly grasped the concept of contrails....well done!

Weather conditions ripe for contrails to form inevitably mean that a weather system is moving in.....if a weather system is moving in that means that clouds will be forming, clouds forming usually mean it's going to rain!

The contrails don't influence the weather....the weather influences the contrails.


Everyone is getting hung up on "conditions ripe for contrails to form. I make contrails and don't need cooperation from the weather. This morning when I took off from Kampala, I had the makings of a lot of water vaper. 234 tons of water vapor to be exact. The aircraft carries 176 tons of fuel. About 15% of that is hydrogen, which combines rather nocely with the oxygen in our atmosphere, even at the rarified altitude of 41,000 feet. Now, high relative humidity at altitude will slow the sublimation of the ice crystals helping trails to persist. But I can make a high altitude contrail without any help from moisture in the air, since I'm carrying 26 tons of hydrogen which will bond with a whole lot of free oxygen. A problem is that the multiple tons of carbon in the fuel bonds real well also with oxygen, making CO2. The relatively small amount of sulphur in all fossil fuels also combines with oxygen, making various sulfides., which can further bond, makinh H2SO4, or sulfuric acid, leading to acid rain. But if someone tried to put tanks of some chemicals on board, the aircraft would probably never get off the ground.With a full load, It already weighs 910,000 pounds. And since we go to a lot of places where fuel quality might be sketchy, we test fuel before every flight. Anything like aluminum or bariium added to our fuel would take specific gravity out of limits. We'd know.



posted on Apr, 23 2017 @ 02:54 AM
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originally posted by: freedom7
a reply to: Discotech


For people that say there are all contrails I don't think you're recognizing the obvious discrepancy in width and sheer volume of what's being sprayed..





That there debunks the whole chemtrail theory by itself. There's simply no way any plane, especially one which was reportedly smaller than commercial planes, could carry the enormous volume required to spray trails the size we see in the sky.

Trails that spread out to huge sizes MUST increase in mass as they spread otherwise they would thin and dissappear and that additional mass can only come from the surrounding air. That can only be a substance that can exist as an invisible gas and a visible solid at temperatures found in our atmosphere. That can only be water.

That's it. There's no way round that without resorting to magical thinking.



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