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originally posted by: umbr360
originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: TrueBrit
As soon as I finish my teacher training I am packing my bags and moving abroad due to how badly this country treats its teachers and how it has treated me.
Funny the government will have spend £20,000 in bursary’s plus another £15000 in students loans I wont pay back if I move aboard. The government will have lost that because of how inept they are!
You complain about budget cuts etc... right after saying how you will be moving abroad and therefore not paying back money to the government. I need a big blooming knife the carve through the irony of that one.
As to the main issue...despite all the parties that exist, yes the UK is essentially a two party system right now. It's Conservatives or it's Labour. That could change, not by these elections, not by the next, maybe not even the ones after that. But if people would stop 'not voting out of protest' and actually vote for a party they can agree with, even if it has no chance of winning, that could start the ball rolling.
The more people who vote for a small party, the more people who will see them as worth voting for next time. It's maddening to see people across my facebook complain about the current government but then declare they wont e voting at all.
Now is the best time to cut pensioner benefits because many of those affected “won’t be around to vote” at the next election and others will forget they had them in the first place, a think tank director has said. Alex Wild, a research director at the Taxpayers’ Alliance, a think tank that campaigns for lower taxes, said the Government must not wait to make cuts to benefits such as the winter fuel allowance, free bus pass, free TV licence and the Christmas bonus for the over 65s. The former Tory Defence Secretary Liam Fox, speaking at the same fringe event at the Conservative party conference, agreed, saying the Government must take advantage of the “great opportunity” of a weak opposition to push through unpopular decisions, “however unpalatable they will be”.
He added that older people would understand the need to cut the deficit and help the future generation. Pensioner benefits have been widely protected by the Tories since they came to power in 2010, with the biggest cuts falling on the younger generation in the form of welfare benefits, rises in tuition fees and widespread cuts to departmental spending.
Mr Wild said there were two reasons why the Government should make the cuts to pensioner benefits “as soon as possible after an election” . "The first of which will sound a little bit morbid - some of the people... won't be around to vote against you in the next election,” he said. “So that's just a practical point, and the other point is they might have forgotten by then.
"If you did it now, chances are that in 2020 someone who has had their winter fuel cut might be thinking, 'Oh I can't remember, was it this government or was it the last one? I'm not quite sure.' "So on a purely practical basis I would say do it immediately. That might be one of those things I regret saying in later life but that would be my practical advice to the government." Mr Fox said now that Labour was no longer a “great threat,” it offered the Government a “great opportunity for us to do some of the more difficult things, however unpalatable they will be in the short term are what we need to do for the country". He said: “This is the time to fix the roof….we have a broken opposition. We have just won a general election and we need now to take the tough decisions we believe are right… we need to do what we all know deep in our hearts to be right." Mr Fox added: "We have got to start to get really honest with people because this is not a sustainable position," he said. "We can't afford it now, we can't afford it in the future, why don't we try to get a longer-term plan put in place so that people can make the adjustments they will need to make for us to be able to get back into balance."
originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: ZIPMATT
To be fair in the UK farmers were committing suicide, there are legal bound's upon what they can do with the farm land.
IT is the Tory's that want to restore the landed gentry and to take us back to the day's when a four year old was once hanged for taking a bite out of an apple.
Labor want soft Brexit which mean's we stay in the EEC while the liberal democrat's want us to actually cancel Brexit.
originally posted by: ZIPMATT
And, foreigners come and buy EU land up because the subsidies are so high . They get a price for produce and a big wedge per hectare on top !
Any society/ecenomy is based on it's agriculture - a simple fact .
You want the CAP to continue unchecked ?
Because there was bugger all parliament could do about that one for years and years , and years. But there's anything we want to do coming up now instead . F the EU and soft brexits - we will get our say back
originally posted by: ZIPMATT
I'm read this thread with interest and hearing from tv and newspapers etc and the trouble I'm seeing is that most are far too concerned with internal matters and party policies to include the real issue which is Brexit . As far as I can see if the Labour or Lib Dems or even the greens got power , then Brexit is finished . Supra-national politics is being avoided perhaps on purpose .