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The Actual Situation Re Poverty, Opioids, and Education in Appalachia: Kentucky Edition

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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
20 minute documentary of Owsley, Kentucky and its preschoolers and the village dynamics and this is REAL LIFE.

And here's the link to the text that explores scientific research indicating that adversity in childhood has a huge difference on a child's development -- but chronic stress and hunger prevent them from learning.


And you're blaming this on Trump how?

The rant you opened with, all that history stuff, not even sure what you're getting at. But if all that's his fault too perhaps you should blame him for the fall of the Mongolian Empire as well.



because.. where are the jobs trump promised?




posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:16 PM
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never mind that Saint Obama just ignored it


Oh really, do you have any evidence that Obama ignored poverty in Appalachia? Democrats always fund programs to help poor people, unlike Trump who is proposing to cut job training for unemployed people from the Department of labor's budget.

Yes, Trump is so much better for poor people. So much better he's even raising gas prices to top it off.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: CB328

If Democrats are so involved, why are the failures so rampant and continuing to get worse ?

Especially in the big cities and other Democrat voting pockets.




posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:23 PM
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nvm. Not part of this echo chamber.
edit on 16-4-2017 by MotherMayEye because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: luciferslight

The jobs are there the problem is libs don't want to work they just want hand outs.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: CB328



never mind that Saint Obama just ignored it


Oh really, do you have any evidence that Obama ignored poverty in Appalachia? Democrats always fund programs to help poor people, unlike Trump who is proposing to cut job training for unemployed people from the Department of labor's budget.

Yes, Trump is so much better for poor people. So much better he's even raising gas prices to top it off.


Ahhh... that great feeling you get when you provide funding to alleviate the poverty you caused by regulating people out of their jobs. Feels so nice.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: CB328




Oh really, do you have any evidence that Obama ignored poverty in Appalachia?


Has it gotten better? Or worse? And guess who had a big part of killing the jobs?

www.kentucky.com...



Kentucky’s coal industry continued to hemorrhage jobs in the first three months of 2016, hitting the lowest total in 118 years, according to a report released Monday. Read more here: www.kentucky.com...=cpy



Coal jobs in Kentucky fall to lowest level in 118 years


“With 262 days left in the Obama presidency, it is all the more critical that the next occupant of the White House have a more positive opinion of coal and its use to power this country’s economy,” said Bill Bissett, president of the Kentucky Coal Association. Read more here: www.kentucky.com...=cpy


We don't want your pity and we sure as hell don't want your handouts. We want jobs.
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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 09:57 PM
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as bleak as the area seems now, I kind of think that it was much bleaker back in the 1960's and 70's.. I am sure just every person on this thread that is from the US have seen a "Save the Children" advertisement on TV.. well I remember as a kid seeing similar ones when I was a kid, with very similar pictures of hungry appalachian children the porches of old, run down wooden shacks who needed our help. there are still areas where there is extreme proverty, without even
the most basic infrastructure that would be needed to bring in jobs, but it's not as widespread as it used to be.

you can't really blame any president for this. But, this is where Trump does come into this. It was president Kennedy that finally took notice to what was happening in the appalachians, how badly they were being left behind. Shortly after being elected, Kennedy along with the Conference of Appalachian Governors began working on a plan to improve the area. In 1965 the Appalachian Regional Development Act.




ARC's mission is to innovate, partner, and invest to build community capacity and strengthen economic growth in Appalachia.

The Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC) is a regional economic development agency that represents a partnership of federal, state, and local government. Established by an act of Congress in 1965, ARC is composed of the governors of the 13 Appalachian states and a federal co-chair, who is appointed by the president. Local participation is provided through multi-county local development districts. ARC invests in activities that address the five goals identified in the Commission's strategic plan:

www.arc.gov...


Trump's original budget proposal completely eliminated this program, claiming that it wasn't producing results.
but here are some of those results:




The Appalachian Region's economy, once highly dependent on mining, forestry, agriculture, chemical industries, and heavy industry, has become more diversified in recent times, and now includes manufacturing and professional service industries. Appalachia has come a long way in the past five decades: its poverty rate, 31 percent in 1960, was 17.2 percent over the 2010–2014 period. The number of high-poverty counties in the Region (those with poverty rates more than 1.5 times the U.S. average) declined from 295 in 1960 to 91 over the 2010–2014 period.

These gains have transformed the Region from one of widespread poverty to one of economic contrasts: some communities have successfully diversified their economies, while others still require basic infrastructure such as roads and water and sewer systems. The contrasts are not surprising in light of the Region's size and diversity. The Region includes 420 counties in 13 states. It extends more than 1,000 miles, from southern New York to northeastern Mississippi, and is home to more than 25 million people.

www.arc.gov...



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: luciferslight

jobs? lol nobody is going to hire a bunch of drug addicts, they are basically unemployable, they are unreliable, they steal, nobody is going to hire them no matter how many jobs are available.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 10:24 PM
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I ran a Google translate program from this video. . .



What came out was the OP.



I'm just glad people are NOW paying attention to poverty because is sure as sh#t was ignored when the leftist messiah was in office.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 11:26 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: CB328

If Democrats are so involved, why are the failures so rampant and continuing to get worse ?

Especially in the big cities and other Democrat voting pockets.



Considering that the Democrats have run Kentucky for the past hundred years...with a couple of exceptions when Republicans briefly gained the governorship...I'd say that the Dems are mostly responsible for the mess in Kentucky. "Paul the Passionate" Patton, the one who went on CNN crying because he'd been discovered in his adultery, was from the area. All he did was manage to get himself named as a college president after he had scammed them for eight years. Hell, he was the one who recruited the pill mills that set up in the area and got those folks addicted to opioids. He was also the one who threatened the AG when he began proceedings to sue the pill makers. Then another Dem AG did sue but settled for $24million from Purdue to be paid over ten years! (The AG filing the case claimed it would be a billion dollar suit. Corporate lawyers were saying it would be at least $250 million.) But the AG who took over from the original filer in the case is a good friend of BigPharma so ...he settled for $24 million over ten years. www.cbsnews.com...

In typical Democrat style, they created the problem, acted surprised when the law of unintended consequences bit them on the behind, and promptly sued the pill manufacturer. Now, they are doling out the money from the ridiculously small settlement they accepted, $1.5 million at a time---for---yes indeed---a solution to the problem they created, drug addiction treatment centers. www.wymt.com...

I don't know if Donald Trump will be able to lend our governor a hand in draining the Frankfort swamp or not. But that Frankfort swamp has been completely controlled by Democrats for about a century so the problems of Eastern Kentucky lie at the feet of Democrats. We've seen a few signs of swamp critters scurrying away, some with shiny bracelets on their wrists
and anticipate more. It takes a long time to drain a swamp. Our governor is just over a year into his term and has made some progress. We'll see how that progresses.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 11:45 PM
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Amazing... Re Highlighting a section of the US that has been USED for political gain... yet.. to this day... still live in the same conditions...

Reality... it's been going on too long...

Stop using folks who were put into these conditions as political pawns...

If you don't want to help them, let them procure their needs on their own... without gov't restrictions...

No doubt in my mind that they would provide for themselves if not for the FED GOV"T & State Gov't restrictions on their self sufficient lifestyle..

Prideful folks, pressured by a gov't who has no clue what is is like to live, where they choose to live...



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 12:46 AM
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The kids look good and sound good in the video. That is the main thing. Where they live is naturally beautiful. That is good.

Drug addiction and no jobs doesn't always go hand in hand as there are so many people who are addicted and work all over our nation. People are addicted to their work/jobs and their pills. They love it. Love the mix. Love the idea of having a job and taking their meds. That gets taken from them, they freak. It's a BS story for everyone to perpetuate the blanket statement that unemployment and drugs go hand in hand. It's not true. That said the dealers are employed and there is a customer base. Also, there are thousands of drug addicted parents who ARE functional and custodial parents. The pharma and back street dealers market to them and both the working and nonworking gobble it up.

People need to get that work becomes unavailable to populations regardless of an addiction problem in the population or not. But what is noteworthy is those addicted don't focus fighting for their jobs or fighting to take over other people's jobs, they are complacent for the most part with the exception of stealing here and there and a bar room fight or domestic dispute. Similar to the homeless. The homeless don't organize and march together to end their obvious human rights abuse. Those addicted to drugs, functional or not, won't either. They just submit to the bad situation.

The folks in the video are soft spoken for the most part. Everyone seems secure in their roles. Someone has to die or move to let someone fill their position. The addicts have to want to do something. Something realistic. Then they need an organizer.

This town would probably be best suited for tourism. All it would take is a big name country singer to invest and create a family camping center with cabins, horse trails, fishing and canoeing and it would create jobs. These folks can handle it. Functionally addicted or sober. That would be their thing. Tour guides, restaurant, horse care, reservations. Then a celebrity to motivate them and make them feel special instead of so blah.

The kids this young are cute and everyone is in the awe precious mode, won't be long until they are awkward and viewed in another way, as competitors and potentially over takers. One cute kid is already planning to be her ma's boss. That could be ok. Or bad. Depending which way they go.
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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 03:46 AM
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Sounds like you made up your mind off of opinions and misconstrued information,when you use these as a basis,end result looks like a liberal rant with no basis,waste of time



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 07:05 AM
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THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO WORK.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: Oldtimer2
Sounds like you made up your mind off of opinions and misconstrued information,when you use these as a basis,end result looks like a liberal rant with no basis,waste of time
A liberal rant?

No. A concerned mother of two who was fortunate to have a job. There are no jobs there. The kids are suffering for it, but you all don't want to help them.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 07:36 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
Sounds like you made up your mind off of opinions and misconstrued information,when you use these as a basis,end result looks like a liberal rant with no basis,waste of time
A liberal rant?

No. A concerned mother of two who was fortunate to have a job. There are no jobs there. The kids are suffering for it, but you all don't want to help them.


Remember way back in the day when people moved to where the money was?

Tiny town, no industry....writing should have been on the wall for them a LONG time ago. Poverty begets poverty. If you can't afford to live somewhere then why have kids? If you can't get a job somewhere then why would you continue to stay there?

Why should others be responsible for bad decisions made?

If these people truly wanted to help the kids, they'd move.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 07:42 AM
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Had this thread never mentioned Trump, and instead been put in General Conspiracies, it would have been a great thread. There is good information here.....buried underneath a deep hatred for someone completely unrelated to what is going on in Kentucky.
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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
Sounds like you made up your mind off of opinions and misconstrued information,when you use these as a basis,end result looks like a liberal rant with no basis,waste of time
A liberal rant?

No. A concerned mother of two who was fortunate to have a job. There are no jobs there. The kids are suffering for it, but you all don't want to help them.


You didn't want to help them all through the last 8 years either. They were stupid white redneck hicks who simply kept voting against their best interests. Too dumb to know any better.



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