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New Evidence in Travis Walton Abduction Case

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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:01 PM
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There are some new findings connected to the Travis Walton Case from November of 1975. A recent study of soil sample from the ‘UFO abduction site’ has revealed some unusual findings.

For those not familiar with the case there are a number of threads on ATS to read with perhaps this one being the best introduction:

The Travis Walton Abduction Case

A couple of brief backgrounds to the case are below:





[On November 5, 1975 Travis Walton was working with a lumbering crew in the Sitgreaves National Forest near Snowflake, Arizona]...
While riding in a truck with six of his coworkers, they encountered a saucer-shaped object hovering over the ground approximately 110 feet away, making a high-pitched buzz. Walton claims he left the truck and approached it, when a beam of light suddenly appeared from the craft, knocking him to the ground. The other six men were frightened and supposedly drove away. Walton claimed that he awoke in a hospital-like room, being observed by three short, bald creatures. When they left, a person entered the room wearing some sort of helmet and led Walton to another room, where three more people put a clear plastic mask over his face and he blacked out. Walton has claimed he remembers nothing else until he found himself walking along a highway, with the flying saucer departing above him.....

See : Wiki



A scientific study of study of soil samples was conducted by Frontier Analysis Limited. Samples were taken from the alleged abduction site and tested against control samples from elsewhere in the nearby area. The report details the soil composition of the location directly beneath the strange object Walton saw that night...



The objective of this project is to determine whether the analysis of the soils will detect a any anomalies which can be related to an unknown craft (UFO). Also it hoped to be Informative to other scientists/investigators that may be able to add input and further interpretation to build on what is found. It is also desired that the information and testing serves as a protocol for future testing of soil samples related to UFO events. That is, which procedures and tests should be done.


The conclusions are somewhat speculative but nonetheless interesting.



It is revealed that iron containing particulates amounts are higher in the site soils compared to the control soils. Furthermore, there is indication that the levels tend to be higher in the surface soils compared to the sub-surface soils of the site samples. This laboratory speculates that the hovering craft propulsion system has a powerful electromagnetic effect thereby drawing (and concentrating) these iron particulates toward the surface. This has been observed in the analysis of soils from other sites where UFOs landed or hovered close to the ground.

It was more specifically noted that sample 2 contains less particulates compared to the other site samples, but slightly more than the controls. Soil 2 is approximately where Travis landed after the beam hit him. Perhaps this suggests that the UFO was not influencing the metal content as much at this location.


The case is now over 40 years old. In 2002 a large forest fire also scorched the the area. So weathering and damage to the foliage from the fire will have taken their toll.

The final conclusion reached was that further analysis would be required.


We believe this analysis justifies additional examination of soil samples from the site. It was under sampled and more metal particulates analysis is needed for confirmation of their relation to the UFO effects.


Whether further data will actually prove anything more than odd anomalies in the soil composition I don't know.

The full report is available here : PDF Link

Perhaps this strengthens Travis Walton’s case just a little. Scientific investigation and data is something often lacking in the UFO field. However there remains a number of ‘skeptical’ voices who have dismissed the Walton story as being a hoax and I doubt this will change their minds. But the case remains one of the all time classics in ufology. It also seems to mark the end of the more innocent era of ufology and the start of something more sinister. By the 1980s reports of grey aliens and abductions became a lot more frequent.

Sources :

Mysterious Universe

Black Vault





edit on 16/4/17 by mirageman because: tidy up




posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:26 PM
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My father was very deeply affected by this story. He started to tell me once about his own encounter with aliens.

Personally, I don't think Earth is being visited by ETs. Not to say there aren't strange things out there I cannot explain away rationally.


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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:33 PM
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This kinda stood out to me

It is revealed that iron containing particulates amounts are higher in the site soils compared to the control soils.

Iron is the end phase of stellar fusion. It could be exhaust in a fusion engine.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: Vector99

It could be I don't know whether they will be able to prove anything with further studies. My guess is that it wouldn't. However if this testing procedure was carried out at other alleged UFO landing sites then maybe a pattern would emerge?


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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl
My father was very deeply affected by this story. He started to tell me once about his own encounter with aliens.

Personally, I don't think Earth is being visited by ETs. Not to say there aren't strange things out there I cannot explain away rationally.


You don't believe your father?



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

If unnatural high iron contents showed up at every site tested, what other conclusion could you logically come to?

Unfortunately there aren't many sites, and there definitely aren't new ones to test.

Seems they have stopped coming, I don't blame em.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:54 PM
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This laboratory speculates that the hovering craft propulsion system has a powerful electromagnetic effect thereby drawing (and concentrating) these iron particulates toward the surface.

Always nice to see a scientific lab doing real science, rather than making ridiculous, unfounded statements. Oh, wait...



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: Snarl
My father was very deeply affected by this story. He started to tell me once about his own encounter with aliens.

Personally, I don't think Earth is being visited by ETs. Not to say there aren't strange things out there I cannot explain away rationally.


You don't believe your father?

My father was a Scientist and a very rational guy. I know he was deeply disturbed by a previous event in his life. He didn't tell me all about it ... mostly alluded to the circumstances described in the Walton story and told me they were based on facts he could personally corroborate. It was something he wanted to confide in me. He never even said a word about it to my older brother.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: mirageman

This kinda stood out to me

It is revealed that iron containing particulates amounts are higher in the site soils compared to the control soils.

Iron is the end phase of stellar fusion. It could be exhaust in a fusion engine.


Or ET's feces could be super iron-rich.

Swung by Earth to dump their black tank...



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:17 PM
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a reply to: AdmireTheDistance

Yes the highly speculative narrative needs to be pointed out as well.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:13 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

I tried to find out more about Frontier Analytics Ltd, and it all comes back to work that's been done for Mufon?
Tried to google around and see if they have any other business accounts and can't seem to find any?
Nor company reviews?

Am I the only one this raises red flags with?
Super curious now!



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:16 PM
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very familiar with this sighting/incident. Thank you for the added information that has come to light. Very very interesting. This is one of the most fascinating incidents of the 20th century.


XL5

posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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If the control sample was taken in a field and the test sample was taken from a road that cars travel on, then that would be the reason for more iron. Vehicles will vibrate some iron loose over time.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: Snarl
My father was very deeply affected by this story. He started to tell me once about his own encounter with aliens.

Personally, I don't think Earth is being visited by ETs. Not to say there aren't strange things out there I cannot explain away rationally.



In your explanation presented here, "rationality" is dictated by the government and science who claim that UFOs don't exist. So if Walton, myself and evidently your father has had dealings with occupants of UFOs then what...?

The fence is a safe place for one without courage. Many reside there that cannot bear the truth that humanity has met its match.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Caver78
a reply to: mirageman

I tried to find out more about Frontier Analytics Ltd, and it all comes back to work that's been done for Mufon?
Tried to google around and see if they have any other business accounts and can't seem to find any?
Nor company reviews?

Am I the only one this raises red flags with?
Super curious now!




The company is called "Frontier Analysis" and the scientist who worked on the study is Analytical Scientist Phyllis Budinger. She does hold an interest in the UFO topic,


....a life long interest in the mystery of the UFO phenomenon was the motivation for her to establish a small laboratory dedicated to the study of physical traces related to UFO events. Frontier Analysis, Ltd. was launched in March 2000. Since then, the laboratory has examined numerous UFO trace samples from all over the world. These include samples from abductions, cattle mutilations, crop circles, UFO deposits, and angel hair. Some highly visible cases for which analyses have been provided include soil traces from the Delphos Kansas landing event and the dress Betty Hill worn during her abduction. The results of these and other analyses have created media interest. She has been interviewed on national radio talk shows and T.V. She has appeared in episodes for the History Channel’s “UFO Files” and “UFO Hunter” series and other documentaries. She was designated “Ufologist of the Year” by MUFON (Mutual UFO Network) in 2013.

Source : Black Vault



Does that mean confirmation bias? I don't know. She came to a negative conclusion on an Earthfiles case a long time ago: link

You'll have to make your own mind up. But it is right to be cautious over any new evidence presented.

This is exactly what this thread is for.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun

In your explanation presented here, "rationality" is dictated by the government and science who claim that UFOs don't exist. So if Walton, myself and evidently your father has had dealings with occupants of UFOs then what...?

The fence is a safe place for one without courage. Many reside there that cannot bear the truth that humanity has met its match.


I am fairly certain that the 'governments' (both your's and mine) do not deny UFOs exist. They simply claim they are not of defence or 'defense' significance. Of course that's an easy get out to explain away things and hope they go away. But there have been a number of official studies made since the 1950s. So we have confirmation there is a UFO phenomenon.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: Aliensun
In your explanation presented here, "rationality" is dictated by the government and science who claim that UFOs don't exist. So if Walton, myself and evidently your father has had dealings with occupants of UFOs then what...?

I don't know.

I'm not ready to disbelieve you nor call you a liar.

I have simply rationalized for myself. I am a man of finite years. I would not spend them traveling across light years of space ... And, even if mine were without limit I'd probably consider any such trip mostly wasted time. What does Earth have to offer any scientifically advanced culture? A chance to have a conversation? Like we're having right here at home??



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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Your link was the same one I came up with,with a small Bio on her that mentions she takes "other contact work" aside from UFO related cases. For a business that's some a skimpy internet footprint. I do know plenty of contract workers DO keep a low profile only really known within their work specialties.



I am an analytical chemist with 35 years experience as a problem-solver in the petroleum industry, now retired. I have a B.S. (Baldwin-Wallace College, 1961) and an M.S. (Miami University, 1964) in chemistry. Because of my analytical capability and technical skills my position at a large petroleum company involved overseeing many other chemists' work. I headed up the infrared spectroscopy group and, at one point, also supervised the X-ray diffraction area. I retired at the rank of "Research Scientist," at a more advanced grade-level than that achieved by the majority of PhDs.
Once retired, in addition to other projects I decided to use my analytical skills in the evaluation of physical traces related to the UFO phenomenon. I set up a professional laboratory for this purpose. Having noted that a solid analytical approach was often lacking in the evaluation of many of the UFO physical- trace cases, it was my hope to contribute some solid information which might aid in unraveling at least part of the UFO mystery.
Generally, I am not paid for my UFO-related work. I do receive income from some projects, but usually only enough to cover costs. I also do contract work for various industries, which income covers most of my overhead. The point I wish to make here is that my work in the UFO and related fields is motivated by scientific curiosity and my sincere desire to understand whatever it is that is going on.


www.unknowncountry.com...

BTW I'm in no way saying her science is faulty, or her company shady, I'd just like to know more.

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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 06:10 PM
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BTW I'm in no way saying her science is faulty, or her company shady, I'd just like to know more.


Totally agree with you there. Let's see what else we can find out hey?



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: mirageman

I have seen the major motion picture
about his case: www.imdb.com...
as well as have read his book: www.travis-walton.com...

Even if this recent study of soil sample from the ‘UFO abduction site’
has NOT revealed any unusual findings, I find Travis' story credible,
considering that he still stands by it. It seems it stood the test of time.


Cheers,
Agatha

P. s.

Travis Walton shares new theory on Fire in the Sky alien abduction:
Published on 2 Jul 2012
www.youtube.com...

Travis Walton's First Interview Ever - After His Abduction:
www.youtube.com...



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