This topic is actually why I joined ATS back when I did. Some of the posters in these type of threads really bugged me...
First of all inspite of many attempts.... looks do not make something an assault rifle.. A AR-15 is not a fully automatic AR-16.. Even though they
look identical to the casual observer. Different caliber and the all important selector switch (Ar-16) which goes safe, semi, and auto for the amount
of rounds the gun will fire every time the trigger is pulled. The AR-15 the civilians purchase have two positions, safe and fire, which means one
round per trigger pull. People in many states can buy a fully automatic weapon but with all the stuff required it will cost you BIG BUCKS... I
actually know a lawyer with a fully functional 50 Cal. Machine gun. At 5 to 7 dollars a round; for most people a day at the range shooting the weapon
would put them in the poor house.
One of the problems with blanket laws are they make one law to fit everyone.. Should someone living on a ranch or farm who uses a gun to protect live
stock or their home be under the same laws as someone in a housing project ? Someone living on the border and having illegals being escorted by armed
mules fall under the same laws ? Just thoughts about laws and not trying to start an argument one way or the other.. The agenda 2030 people want us
all in cites anyway..
When the Second amendment was written the weapon of the day was the musket.. Many of those weapons were in the .44 to 50+ caliber range which when you
were hit would literately take your arm or leg off it the round hit you in the right place. IMO the second was always about citizens being armed with
the same equipment the military would have. Great law for those who had just fought a war of independence and knew a little history.
You can buy an F-16 or just about any other aircraft if you can fly and maintain it (look at EAA war birds of America).. Just like there were private
Man of war ships back in the day with cannons and all.. By the way we can purchase cannons, tanks, and other military hardware if you have the bucks
and the desire..there are collectors all over America. The problem is getting the ammo..
As far as the US citizens standing up and trying to go head to head with the US military...only fools would try... However an underground group of
dedicated individuals who were in a regime change operation could make any government very uncomfortable to the point of finally being ousted... Many
examples of that...one was Cuba back in the day... The CIA darn sure thinks it works even today with their regime change policies all over the
When I was young a felony charge was appropriate in most cases.... today they hand them out like candy... No voting rights and no gun ownership..
However how many times have you heard of a prior felon committing an armed robbery ? Laws are for law abiding citizens.. Felons and crooks just do
their own thing... Which brings to mind how many other times have you heard of a robbery, rape, etc, being stopped by an armed individual who is not a
LEO but someone who is armed for just such event ? There are many more than you will ever see in the main talking head propaganda news.. Even ATS has
threads you can look at/read.
I have no problem with back ground checks providing the check is not used like the IRS was against political foes or other examples of well connected
crooks getting away with a slang expression of murder.. Lady justice is supposed to be blind and the justice is equal for all regardless of station in
life... we can all see how that is not working like TPTB want you to believe or propaganda put forth in our schools these days.
Many in America have come to realize anything the government touches even with good intentions becomes a bloated bureaucratic mess that serves very
few except those at the top and the many employees it takes to enforce the new regulation or law. 10,000 new IRS employees were hired according to
many news articles just to manage Obama care. What a mess that has turned out to be..
Obama gun grab ? I will give him this..."He was the best Gun salesman America has ever seen." I was moving overseas and sold my guns mostly to LEOs
and ICE people for a profit... Thank you Mr. Obama..
It is 04:30 here and I have not had my required amount of coffee yet... so I am quite sure I have missed several talking points... but I am up and out
for a Golf registration and tournament so I need to be exiting this thread and my house..
Oh before I leave.. A pistol in the states that cost $325 can be legally purchased in Asia by a rich local native for a little over $3000 USD by the
time the paperwork is finished.. See that keeps the guns out of the yokels and only the rich can buy one.. Yet even in the sticks the farmers have
weapons... and no they are not legal; but they have them.. Nor does it stop insurgents, radicals, bomb makers and drug runners from being well armed
and committing mayhem when they feel like it. Again laws are for law abiding citizens.. I would bet the Mexican Cartels would love to see the citizens
of America disarmed and that is but one small group not counting the gangs and others who would love the free rains of terror they could inflict if it
were not for those pesky guns and America's second amendment.
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