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Anti Trumpers, if Trump fails America fails

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posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Neith
a reply to: dfnj2015

Oh Please...

Obama 'bombed big time'. I've seen your posts and you're so anti Trump it's not funny. He's your President, respect Him. You sucked up to Obama in many threads and clearly you're anti Trump. Why who the hell knows but please get over it, sh't.


I'm not anti-Trump, I'm pro-Lobbyist. I never expected Trump to accomplish anything you teary eyed patriots were hoping for.

Obama was a great president in the sense that we went from losing 800,000 jobs per month 2008 before he was sworn in to skipping along the bottom like we are now. You seem to forget if GW Bush did not screw the economy up so badly the black guy would never have ever become president in the first place!


I find it hilarious that in less than one page you've managed to blame Trump, blame Bush, kiss Obama's ass, bring up race, call people ragheads (multiple times), mention FEMA camps, somehow advance the notion that Republicans control the media (which is so cosmically laughable I can't even imagine what orifice you pulled that from), insinuate that somebody was trying to silence your opinion for no reason other than they dared to point out you're as much a part of the problem mentioned in the OP as anybody else is, worked in a little sky-is-falling prediction with your 'no more democrats in office' claim, and yet not once really say anything very relevant to the OP itself.

It's almost like you're trying to parody what the OP is talking about, except you're being completely serious.

People don't need to be cheerleaders for Trump, but people don't need to make # up to get upset about with him either. Trump doing a # job in office isn't going to be good for anybody, whatever side of the aisle you're on. Why anybody would want that is a head scratcher.

Sincerely,

A non-Trump voter




posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

That analysis was damn good!



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:08 PM
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OP,you're a blind fool.

America fricking failed many years ago, when Bush dropped the first bomb in Shock & Awe in Iraq. Our society took a point-of-no-return FUBAR turn right at that moment. Trump isn't going to fix that, keep wishing.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: Nyiah
OP,you're a blind fool.

America fricking failed many years ago, when Bush dropped the first bomb in Shock & Awe in Iraq. Our society took a point-of-no-return FUBAR turn right at that moment. Trump isn't going to fix that, keep wishing.


Correct. Trump sealed it with aggression and escalation. No return now.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:11 PM
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So far things aren't looking good, thing is, people put a lot of faith and hope in whom they vote for, and sooner or later, it's FUBAR!



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:14 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Neith
a reply to: dfnj2015

Cute...Well ... sorry to burst your bubble, I know I know.. that's a cheap cliche' but I'm not from where you are.
Obama was a good pressie? I don't think so.

He has the worst record for running America into the gutter for billions.

He wasted X amount of dollars far beyond what the ordinary Tax Payer should pay!

Are you serious? oh...it looks like you are, crap, explain his mismanagement of more than a billion x dollars please? And while your doing the calculations,add Clintons into the mix.


How did he mismanage anything. The president just signs bills. Exactly what executive orders did Obama sign that "gutter for billions". Which bill did Obama sign exactly that is your main criticism.

I think Obama is the least effective president in American history. He got less of his agenda accomplished than any other president ever. The Obama president was a waste of time.

And don't say ACA did anything. Healthcare premiums have been rising 20% per year for the last 30 years. Before and after the ACA was signed into law had no effect on the rising healthcare costs.


No, i'm just wondering how you got dumb deaf and blind so fast. I mean since Obama left office. Do your knees hurt? Because you've been on them for atleast a year now pandering to the last 'failed administration'. Ouch, that's gotta burn still eh?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: dfnj2015




ragheads


Aren't you guys supposed to be loving and tolerant? All inclusive, anti racist, that sorta thing?


Na, we hate everyone equally. What I would like someone to tell me is by what measure would you consider the Trump presidency a success? Because if bombing ragheads is the metric why are people complaining? What will make you go, "wow, the Trump presidency was a complete success"



The mere fact that Trump's pissed off about everyone on the hill and then some, tells me he's on a road to success. He's also been very proactive about trying to turn this country around, something I haven't seen in many decades, if ever, in my over a half century on this planet. He's overcome monumental obstacles against him, continues to do so and has still managed to keep pushing forward.

I can think of many ways the Obama and Bush administrations have had negative effect on my life. I can't think of any negatives with Trump so far, except for having to endure all the childish and pathetic antics from a large portion of the left crowd.

At what point do you see his presidency as a failure?

What would he have to do for you to see him as a success?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: toysforadults

Republicans control all three branches of government. How much more less divided do you want?

Maybe Republicans will finally be happy when all the liberal Democrats are put in FEMA reeducation camps.

Trump is bombing just as many ragheads for Israel as Obama did. It seems like the government is not divided in foreign policy.




Lol they were way happier as the "we can just bash everything and not actually have to govern...



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 08:08 PM
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I dont post too regularly on here but frequent the boards almost daily. As soon as I saw this thread I had an urge to reply as I believe the OP has hit the proverbial nail on the head.

Clearly, as my avatar indicates, I'm not American but being from a country with similarities in government and close ties to the USA, I believe my view is as good as any. That being said, I disagree with modern politics regardless of which party holds power so maybe my opinion is moot but I'm gonna tell you all anyway.

Since the US election season began, these boards have been inundated with threads from both sides, and the main theme has been to attack the opposing side with no indication of compromise even if the opposing view is more in tune with modern society. One can't help but laugh at the clear bias shown in members with an agenda to discredit the "evil, incompetent" opponent. Everyone is guilty of this.

What is somewhat scary though, is the fact that Trump was inaugurated months ago yet the overall theme of political posting has not crept away, even the slightest, from one side vs the other.

Leftists, you need to embrace your government and get behind it otherwise the divide will continue to increase and the current state of affairs will only get worse. Anyone with half a brain can see that and I know most on here have more than half a brain so lets start using it. I believe the divide stems mainly from you being whiny babies cause you didn't win. You'll get your turn again so until then, suck it up. Not saying to not objectively debate some decisions of the Trump government but theres no need to go all out bat sh!t crazy about it.

Right wingers, the conservative movement isn't the be all and end all. Time for some compromise as some of your policies are downright retarded so until we the people, recognise the benefits of independent candidates and move away from this 2 party system insanity, its time to incorporate some leftist policy for the overall benefit of society. Only united can we succeed and only compromise can unite us enough to achieve this.

My only gripe with the OP is this part here, more specifically the last few words...



It's time to put your party politics aside, it's time to stop supporting your "team" and it's time to wake up and realize we are fighting for the future of the world here.


No America, just no! You're not fighting for the future of the world, just America! The rest of the world can fight for itself. Clean up your house before you come into mine and tell me what I'm doing wrong. It's hypocritical and just plain arrogant. This world police mentality is a major problem, especially when you can't even sort out your own issues.
Focus on the betterment of yourselves and if the rest of the world want to destroy each other, so be it. Think about it, in such a case, with everyone else gone, you can police the whole world to your hearts content but until such time, fix your own fcuk ups.

Now, who's cage did I rattle? Have at me, I can take it




posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

BS. Did you guys feel the same way about Pres Obama, that if he failed it meant that America would also fail? Or did you believe that his idea of "success" would be a "failure" to you? Because the last time I checked, Republicans fought for 8 straight years to get Pres Obama to fail at everything he did. Republicans even cheered when Chicago failed to get the Olympics just because it would make Pres Obama look bad.


So no, it's way too late to start this fake reconciliation crap. Especially when Trump and the Republicans are still pushing through policies that we oppose. There's another thread out there saying Trump's thinking about threatening the healthcare of millions of Americans if Democrats don't work with him to repeal the ACA. That sounds more like extortion or a shakedown than reconciliation.

ETA: Also, Repubs control all 3 branches of the federal govt. Theoretically they can push through any legislation they want without a single Democratic vote. So if anything, this sounds like 1) the right wing's too incompetent to follow through on its campaign pledges, or 2) the right wing wants just enough "cooperation" from Democrats so that they can claim the left wing somehow sabotaged any failed legislation they manage to push through.
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posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
As our country grows more divided and the lines between fact and fiction continue to blur, one thing is certain... if Trump fails that means America fails. It's time for the blind hatred to stop and it's time for Americans to wake up out of their partisan slumbers and realize that we are all in this together.

As anti-fa (future home grown terrorist group) continue to riot and grow more violent as time passes and as ardent Trump supporters continue to blindly and uncritically support the president I have come to the realization that this is exactly what was engineered through the last election cycle.

It's time to put your party politics aside, it's time to stop supporting your "team" and it's time to wake up and realize we are fighting for the future of the world here.

I believe we have a tremendous opportunity right now to come together and rise up above this petty and pedantic bickering over who's right and wrong and over come the powers of the New World Order.

Please, separate yourself from your thoughts, create space and awareness and realize the truth of what's happening and stop allowing the right-left paradoxical brainwashing split our world into 2 opposing fractals and come together.

That is all.


I'm imagining your "speech" to the Republicans if Hillary won.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: Annee

They'd be preaching about resistance to her agenda, just as they did with the last 2 Democratic presidents.

They only want our cooperation now because they can't get enough votes from their own "side" to pass their agenda. I don't see them trying to push through any left wing legislation. That's how you know they strictly want our votes.
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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:00 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

You honestly just quoted Il Duce on fascism actually being corporatism when the man was a devout socialist in a country where the state controlled the corporations. Do you realize you're simultaneously arguing that the US is exactly to opposite of that, with the corporations running the state (according to you in this very thread)? You are proving my point, by the way... Mousolini was very much a liberal fascist.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:42 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

I don't think it's as much as "blind" hatred rather than "real" actions by Trump that has caused genuine concerns.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:45 AM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: dfnj2015

Actually, when it looked like Hillary was going to win, I had a poster who said they be glad when they could finally put Conservatives in FEMA camps. Another said they'd be glad when they could exclude Conservatives in political discussion. The way Dems have been acting, I'm pretty sure it's not the Republicans we need to worry about putting people in camps.



BS. Prove it.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:49 AM
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originally posted by: Neith
a reply to: dfnj2015

Oh Please...

Obama 'bombed big time'. I've seen your posts and you're so anti Trump it's not funny. He's your President, respect Him. You sucked up to Obama in many threads and clearly you're anti Trump. Why who the hell knows but please get over it, sh't.



Respect is earned. Trump has done nothing respectable. Face it he is the next Nixon. He is going down.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:26 AM
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a reply to: defiythelie

I don't think so...

Nor will I agree with you about Trump being like Nixon.

Try Again.. But this time THINK ok?

If anyone should go down, it's all the rats in the drain.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:43 AM
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a reply to: toysforadults

Donnie may be the fattest president since Taft, but America in bigger than he is. When he falls, America will be better for it.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:46 AM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Seeing history rewritten in real time is quite something.

Mussolini, good pal of Hitler, the world famous liberal socialist lol



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 04:48 AM
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originally posted by: Neith
a reply to: defiythelie


Nor will I agree with you about Trump being like Nixon.



He's worse. Nixon had the good sense to deny he was a crook. Donnie's attitude is 'I'm a crook, so what?'




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