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BREAKING: ANTIFA Arrives AT Berkeley Event

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posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:08 AM
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a reply to: c2oden

I'm not giving you my opinion about it or if I support it or not. That's just how it is. We can be silenced in many ways that aren't protected by the first. That applies to gov censorship only. There is nothing at all stating you are protected from anything else.




posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:12 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: c2oden

I'm not giving you my opinion about it or if I support it or not. That's just how it is. We can be silenced in many ways that aren't protected by the first. That applies to gov censorship only. There is nothing at all stating you are protected from anything else.


Weak response.








edit on 2017-04-16T00:14:21-05:002201716America/Chicago4 by c2oden because: the response was weak



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:16 AM
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a reply to: c2oden

Do you support a business owner's right to deny service based on their beliefs?



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:18 AM
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a reply to: c2oden

So the truth is weak now???

Well I guess you should go cry about it until someone changes it for.

Don't believe me?? Look it up. The first amendment protects speech from government censorship. It doesn't say anything at all other than that.

So I don't care how you feel about it. That is the truth so deal with it and stop blaming me for simply pointing out the truth to you.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: c2oden

Do you support a business owner's right to deny service based on their beliefs?



My simple answer to a complicated question is no, I do not support denial of service based strictly on a business owners belief.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: c2oden

So the truth is weak now???

Well I guess you should go cry about it until someone changes it for.

Don't believe me?? Look it up. The first amendment protects speech from government censorship. It doesn't say anything at all other than that.

So I don't care how you feel about it. That is the truth so deal with it and stop blaming me for simply pointing out the truth to you.


Still weak.
I'm not crying about it or blaming you.
Happy Easter.
edit on 2017-04-16T00:28:18-05:002201716America/Chicago4 by c2oden because: Easter



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: c2oden

Yeah, Happy Easter.

Sorry for telling you the truth about the first amendment. I just thought you'd like to know that it's actually limited in it's application before you run off yelling about First Amendment Rights in instances where it doesn't apply.

But suit yourself.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:40 AM
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originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: c2oden

Yeah, Happy Easter.

Sorry for telling you the truth about the first amendment. I just thought you'd like to know that it's actually limited in it's application before you run off yelling about First Amendment Rights in instances where it doesn't apply.

But suit yourself.


No need to apoligize. I understand the First amendment and where and when it's applicable.

Free speech is more than an amendment.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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it looks pretty nice. like a picnic.they have songs too.nice organization.
edit on 16-4-2017 by xbeta because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: c2oden

the constitution is a spook, and "Free Speech" doesn't save you from consequences, shutting down platforms and fighting Fascist and Nazi rhetoric has nothing to do with pro or anti free speech
edit on 16-4-2017 by XAnarchistX because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

Yeah yeah we know, the constitution is a spook etc. You say this all the time. Do yourself a favor and trash that Antifa manual you carry around.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:11 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: c2oden

the constitution is a spook, and "Free Speech" doesn't save you from consequences, shutting down platforms and fighting Fascist and Nazi rhetoric has nothing to do with pro or anti free speech


This is going to end badly if the people proclaiming to fight facism can't recognize facism.

Are you pro anything? You have a lot of anti- in your sig.

What about puppies?
Are you pro-puppy?
edit on 2017-04-16T01:54:46-05:002201716America/Chicago4 by c2oden because: because puppies



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]




Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some post–World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.


you can see the relevance is why we are using actions against these groups



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:08 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
Two questions who is Nathan Domingo and why do you care what he thinks?


Yeah, I mean....doesn't he have the right to say whites are better?

To me, it's almost as offensive as saying males are better at math, or spatial awareness.

Culturally, one could make a LOT of valid declaration s about the success of different groups.

Just like a person can claim blacks are better....athletes. Don't people have the right to an opinion?



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:17 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: seeker1963

Help oh God they're playing frisbee and are against nazis!


But I am guessing you, along some others, forget what Nazi stands for. "National Socialists".



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:20 AM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Peeple

Where's the nazis?

Point them out.


Groups like those on the left in the video just like to call everyone in the right "nazis" with a total ignorance of who the nazis were under Hitler.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:30 AM
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a reply to: TobyFlenderson

It also means those wearing masks could use violence and not get identified so they don't get caught.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 02:43 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox

originally posted by: dragonridr
Two questions who is Nathan Domingo and why do you care what he thinks?


Yeah, I mean....doesn't he have the right to say whites are better?

To me, it's almost as offensive as saying males are better at math, or spatial awareness.

Culturally, one could make a LOT of valid declaration s about the success of different groups.

Just like a person can claim blacks are better....athletes. Don't people have the right to an opinion?


Everyone has an opinion and he has a right to his opinion. But again why should we care what he believes. But trying to shut him up because you disagree is wrong. What makes you think your opinions are better than anyone else. Group morality is dangerous look at Hitler he convinced everyone Jews were the cause of all the problems.There was people like you that thought it was best to intimidate others because their view was right. Eventually there was no one left to speak out against the holocaust.

Denying anyone the right to speak is a very slippery slope. And if you truly believe your right should be no problem convincing others. The anti fa movement doesnt try to debate they try to intimidate and are using fear to shut down debate.



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:12 AM
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originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: c2oden



Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I, before it spread to other European countries. Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[3][4]




Neo-fascism is a post–World War II ideology that includes significant elements of fascism. Neo-fascism usually includes ultranationalism, populism, anti-immigration policies or, where relevant, nativism, anti-communism, anti-socialism, anti-Marxism, anti-anarchism and opposition to the parliamentary system and liberal democracy. Allegations that a group is neo-fascist may be hotly contested, especially if the term is used as a political epithet. Some post–World War II regimes have been described as neo-fascist due to their authoritarian nature, and sometimes due to their fascination and sympathy towards fascist ideology and rituals.


you can see the relevance is why we are using actions against these groups


"We" ?

Are you admitting to an action? Was this action a crime?



posted on Apr, 16 2017 @ 03:34 AM
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People have a right to rally for Trump.. and they also have a right to protest Trump. They DO NOT have the right to silence anyone or intimidate anyone into not holding their own beliefs.

Put it this way, dont make a problem and there wont be a problem. Thats my mantra.. and my warning. Ill let you say all sorts of awful stuff without batting an eye and respect your freedom to have and express those beliefs. THe moment you try to stop me from having my own and expressing them.. particularly with violence.. boy, you really got yourself into something youre not going to weasel your way out of. Like that one foolish antifa who said she was returning with 100 nazi scalps.. yep. She didnt get far. Dont make a problem and there wont be one... and youre not fighting the nazis with the Inglorious Bastards you idiot. Bunch of little kids with masks and neckbeards... acting like spoiled morons. Oughtto be ashamed of themselves and they WILL be ashamed of themselves when they grow up and have to explain their behavior.

The poster here that seems to be really keen on lumping him/herself in with the kids isnt the sharpest knife in the drawer to fall in line with these sort of childish idiots. If you want to be heard.. better grow the hell up and figure out how to be heard by the adults and stop throwing tantrums. Youre not a very good Anarchist if you align yourself with the kids at Berk. Utopian societies without government cant be had by people that behave in such a way. In anarchy, they would be segregated from the whole by the stronger and or killed.. cause theyre so annoying they arent worth the trouble to deal with and suck up valuable resources without putting anything back in. Theyre the definition of useless eater. Youre not even able to live up to your own screen name..



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