BREAKING: ANTIFA Arrives AT Berkeley Event

a reply to: XAnarchistX

Now now. Don't try to shut me up just because you don't like what I said.

That would be fascist.

What I understand is none of that took place in Berkeley today and yet "antifascists" showed up anyway to try and disrupt everything anyway.

I understand you have talking points you need to regurgitate over and over, even when your talking points are completely irrelevant.

I understand that like most self proclaimed "antifa" you like to "debate" by creating strawman arguments and trying to force me to defend or explain what you just made up.

Hahahahaaha

Watching a youtube feed. Some Berkeley loser with a megaphone shouting, "The only reason these people are not running over you right now is because the police are here." So a guy gets in his face and megaphone boy immediately changes to, "Hey, we're just peacefully assembling here..."

Leftists using violent fascist tactics in the name of anti-fascism. Priceless, if these people only knew how stupid they are.

a reply to: dragonridr

This wasn't a free speech rally, this was a way for Nazi affinity groups to organise in public behind the normalized "Alt-Right"

a reply to: seeker1963

LOL! Watching these protests makes me want to hang my head in shame....and really have a good belly laugh.

I truly wish everyone at this protest on both sides could actually go somewhere that is war torn, has extreme oppression of freedom and is racist...just to see what it is really like.

I think the issue with the majority of idiots protesting whatever is that they have no cultural experience...

a reply to: Shamrock6

No, these are facts. the National Socialist Party were there Roman Saluting shouting "Sieg Heil"

you don't have to defend yourself, I'm telling you what is happening away from Politics, away from Trump Hysteria, and "Muh Russians" I'm telling you what is literally growing in the streets

and we are going to fight it

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CreationBro
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im all of those things except a communist. Does that make me bad?

Do you believe in free speech or do you believe in the suppression of free speech?

Well I have seen no evidence of government trying to silence people so I think your argument is wrong. A citizen doesnt have to give you a soap box or even give you a chance to speak.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: dragonridr

This wasn't a free speech rally, this was a way for Nazi affinity groups to organise in public behind the normalized "Alt-Right"

Aren't all rallies in the USA free speech rallies when it comes right down to it?
Why do you hate free speech?

a reply to: Vroomfondel

The National Socialist Party were at Berkeley, Literal Nazis

a reply to: c2oden

I don't hate free speech, shutting down platforms is not taking away free speech.

also, we exist outside of "Muh Constitution" and imposed "False Morality", we are born with Freedoms, we don't need a piece of paper telling us "how" we can be free.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: Vroomfondel

The National Socialist Party were at Berkeley, Literal Nazis

That word is being used to describe anyone there who supports Trump, regardless of any other affiliation. I think you know that.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: c2oden

I don't hate free speech, shutting down platforms is not taking away free speech.

Do you realize the inherent contradiction in this statement?

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CreationBro
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im all of those things except a communist. Does that make me bad?

Do you believe in free speech or do you believe in the suppression of free speech?

Well I have seen no evidence of government trying to silence people so I think your argument is wrong. A citizen doesnt have to give you a soap box or even give you a chance to speak.

I don't think you understand.

A citizen can, with force/violence, deny other citizens their rights to free expression.

Edit, that came out wrong. What I meant to say is that citizens also have the (criminal) ability to deny free speech as any authoritarian dictator.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CreationBro
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im all of those things except a communist. Does that make me bad?

Do you believe in free speech or do you believe in the suppression of free speech?

Well I have seen no evidence of government trying to silence people so I think your argument is wrong. A citizen doesnt have to give you a soap box or even give you a chance to speak.

I don't think you understand.

A citizen can, with force/violence, deny other citizens their rights to free expression.

You have the right to say what ever you want free from government persecution. A citizen doesnt have to let you speak, listen to you, or accommodate you.

a reply to: Pyle

A citizen cannot shut me up, as much as they (you?) wishes they could.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Pyle

A citizen cannot shut me up, as much as they (you?) wishes they could.

A citizen absolutely can as long as it doesnt break a law, such as assault.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Pyle

A citizen cannot shut me up, as much as they (you?) wishes they could.

A citizen absolutely can as long as it doesnt break a law, such as assault.

How in the #### are you going to forcibly silence me without breaking the law?

I did actually see a few photos on twitter from there, and there were infact people atleast claiming to be Nazi's..Their terms they used for themselves according to the people who questioned them, not mine. There were also some people in "straight pride" shirts wearing dark motorcycle helmets that didnt look like they were just there to stand.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: CreationBro
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im all of those things except a communist. Does that make me bad?

Do you believe in free speech or do you believe in the suppression of free speech?

Well I have seen no evidence of government trying to silence people so I think your argument is wrong. A citizen doesnt have to give you a soap box or even give you a chance to speak.

I don't think you understand.

A citizen can, with force/violence, deny other citizens their rights to free expression.

You have the right to say what ever you want free from government persecution. A citizen doesnt have to let you speak, listen to you, or accommodate you.

Yet another poster that thinks people who they don't agree with should not be allowed to say something they don't agree with.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Pyle

A citizen cannot shut me up, as much as they (you?) wishes they could.

A citizen absolutely can as long as it doesnt break a law, such as assault.

How in the #### are you going to forcibly silence me without breaking the law?

Protests as we are seeing is happening, denying you a place to speak, ect.