Isaiah scroll found 70 yrs ago in Qumram confirms Christ Prophecy

a reply to: watchitburn

The best prophesies are designed to lead people to good outcomes.

"I have foreseen that if you decide to eat Little Caesars tonight instead of Popeye's, that your bowel movements will be even more loose."

The worst prophesies are vague enough to be about anything. Here, check this out, Nostradamus predicted your loose bowels:

"Evil neighbors quarreling serfs of the Church without a head.
Waste, great loss, and not without violence,"

You see, Popeye's and Little Caesars are both owned by Roman Catholics ("serfs of the Church").

"Waste, great loss, and not without violence," refers to the quality of your bowel movement.

My advice, as an expert interpreter of prophesy, is to eat a salad for dinner.

a reply to: The angel of light

double post.

a reply to: The angel of light

Just sonuds like, just as now, a group of people trying to control the masses through some written text. Sounds like another tool for the Elite but back in those days. Written laws.

We are all fools to ourselves. Following some written text by man non the less!!

(yeah yeah, god enabled the man to write. clever god. cant do it himself, get some fellas to write it. sure thats plausible)

Moving on ...........

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: The angel of light

Does this really have any relevance to today's society? Goat herders and people who thought the earth was flat do not have any special knowledge when it comes to religion.

"he will divide the spoils with the strong" sounds pretty belligerent and war mongering. I thought Christianity was a religion of peace. I guess not.

What you just did is basically what many people did by misinterpreting. When I read that phrase I took it as he receiving a loaf of bread and dividing it to feed his brethren.

Your interpretation does not match Jesus personality which was to give and love. He said it himself that we should not live by the sword.

Also did you not read this part?

though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

I guess not, because it does not fit what you want as reality.

Isaiah wrote that 700 years before Christ. It's astounding and accurate, though other Jews did not accept it (they wanted a warrior).

Isaiah is my favorite major prophet.

(Please don't be rude about other people's religions.)

a reply to: The angel of light

From letter of Publius Lentulus, Roman legate in Palestine to Tiberius Cesar
, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut,

Your words

Auburn color of his mane and beard...

The Archko Volume, official court documents from the days of Jesus:
His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else

So we have 3 description of the colour of his hair, Auburn , Chestnut & Golden (Blond?) all within your own single post.
Are we talking about the same man?
Incredible!

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: The angel of light

Does this really have any relevance to today's society? Goat herders and people who thought the earth was flat do not have any special knowledge when it comes to religion.

"he will divide the spoils with the strong" sounds pretty belligerent and war mongering. I thought Christianity was a religion of peace. I guess not.

In the Bible God clearly indicated a round earth:

In the book of Isaiah no less, which is what this thread is about Chapter 40 vs 22

He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.


And the "war mongering" you haven't talked about in the prophecy isn't fulfilled yet. You'll read about it in Revelation on his second coming.

He's coming back to earth with a rod of iron to straighten things out.

originally posted by: ParasuvO

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: watchitburn

Well, I don't need to prophesy that you have already made a horrendous ridicule trying to call attention with such a cheap comment.

The scroll preceded in four centuries the date of the execution of Jeshua Bar Joseph ordered by the Roman Procurator Poncius Pilates.

Everything certified with C14 dating by the way.

The Angel of Lightness

Whoever the fool was that got executed, he accomplished zero and zilch, this should be a red flag but somehow it is a rallying cry.....

Zero and zilch? Jesus and his teachings (emphasized by the teachings of the Apostle Paul) created one of the largest belief systems in history of the world that still has an impact today. To dismiss it as "zero and zilch" is sheer contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism. You are absolutely free to disagree with the ideology/historicity of Christianity (which is an entirely different discussion), but by writing the post that you did just shows you are relying on old, tired techniques that non-believers utilize in attempts to discredit Christianity.

Don't believe in Christianity? Totally your right. Don't believe that Jesus of Nazareth had any impact? That is misguided and deslusional.

Seriously...we have more evidence and documents that support the Bible than we do for the works of Shakespeare. You are aware of this, correct?

Try again.

originally posted by: lincolnparadox
a reply to: watchitburn

The best prophesies are designed to lead people to good outcomes.

The Bible is known for prophecies coming to reality.

Israel becoming a nation again.
The whole earth watching an event "Television" - the whole world watches the two witnesses.
The temple being destroyed.

a reply to: dfnj2015

You know people still heard goats, and plenty of people believe the earth is flat.... even some on this website.

Even without the Bible, the Greeks were calling the earth round in 6th century BC

And the idea grew into antiquity, the people who were alive during Jesus's time would of probably known the earth was round.

It wasn't until later people started to think the earth was flat, allegedly - honestly though there is a very short span of time when people MIGHT of thought it was flat, Columbus didn't sail west because he thought he was going to fall off the earth, he was looking for India, which means he knew the earth was round... who do you think, thought the earth was flat?

a reply to: The angel of light

Thanks for sharing, fascinating and intriguing topic.

a reply to: The angel of light

The old testament prophets were few and far between. The new covenant means through the great blessings and outpourings, the spiritual gift of prophesy is bestowed on many. Post Christ, the only thing that remains the same is the rarity of the prophet charged with prophesy for the world.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: The angel of light

Does this really have any relevance to today's society? Goat herders ...

Of course it has some relevance. Obviously there are inconsistencies in the Bible. For example in the Old Testament in Genesis 10 it says that each tribe had their own language. In the very next Chapter, Genesis 11, it says that at the tower of Babel that the whole world had ONE language, before the confusing of the languages at the Tower of Babel. And they were cursed because they built a tall building. We build tall buildings all the time today and yet God does not confuse our languages each time we build a new building. And yet the Bible says that God is the same, yesterday, today and forever. So, why is He not still confusing the languages each time a record setting sky scrape is built.

And yet at other times it seems to be valid. For instance, I had a blog a few years before the meteor hit Chelyabinsk. The purpose of the blog was to prove the existence of a higher power. And in the blog I used a music video as evidence of Divine Inspiration. This one.

Then someone on this forum asked me to speculate on what the image of the beast might be in the Bible. I said illegal material on the internet depicting abuse of minors by adults. Within two weeks a meteor Chelyabinsk. Then I remembered where the video I had included in my blog was filmed. Chelyabinsk.

The meteor destroyed thousands of windows in Chelyabinsk. Microsofts main operating system is called Windows. And the Windows loading icon is a bunch of spheres in orbit sort of like a meteor in orbit. And the navigation icon is called a CURSOR. Not unlike the word curse, as in the opposite of a blessing.

And most cursors point to the left. In the Bible spiritual sheep, or people who have been baptized are found on the right hand of Christ at the Resurrection. Spirital goats are found on the left hand.

2017 application.

Judaeo/Christian civilization is better than Sharia law civilization.

Even intelligent atheists/agnostics are forced to understand that in 2017.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

Secular civilization is better than Judeo/Christian civilization and civilizations that impose Sharia law. Even Christians are forced to understand that fact in 2017.

a reply to: windword

But even Secular civilization is based on some of the basic fundamentals from the bible, don't rape, don't murder, don't steal, treat your neighbor with respect, apply the golden rule to everybody, especially men towards women.
It's pretty basic stuff, that causes civilization to be stable.
Unlike places that throw homosexuals from the roof tops and beat women that were raped, just because it's ok in their culture.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

But even Secular civilization is based on some of the basic fundamentals from the bible, don't rape, don't murder, don't steal, treat your neighbor with respect, apply the golden rule to everybody, especially men towards women.
It's pretty basic stuff, that causes civilization to be stable.

Nope.

First of all, the Bible doesn't say "don't rape, don't murder". It tells you how and when those things are okay! Secondly, "the golden rule", aka the "law of reciprocity", is a natural law that has been employed by both religious and secular societies since the dawn of civilization. Egypt and ancient Greece applied natural laws without the help of the Hebrew gods. The US Bill of Rights and Constitution are based on natural law, not Biblical law.

Finally, secular society doesn't impose morality by enacting laws. Laws provide regulations to protect commerce and the people's safety and their ability to freely move about, as well as formulated resolutions the peaceful resolution of disputes.

Consider the 10 Commandments that Solon of Athens gave his people

1. Trust good character more than promises.

2. Do not speak falsely.

3. Do good things.

4. Do not be hasty in making friends, but do not abandon them once made.

5. Learn to obey before you command.

6. When giving advice, do not recommend what is most pleasing, but what is most useful.

7. Make reason your supreme commander.

8. Do not associate with people who do bad things.

9. Honor the gods.

10. Have regard for your parents.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: The angel of light
a reply to: tbchugs

No, that is a claim that does not have solid support to be true, such a long trip out of the boundaries of the middle East must be mentioned somewhere in the Gospels, and it is Not even briefly mentioned neither on the Canonical ones nor in the minor ones.

The origin of such story is an account told to a Russian traveler who went to North India and Pakistan in the XIX century, it refers to somebody that brought to Kashmir the news about Jesus life, they possibly have merged in their traditions the two different figures in one.

If there is something trully historic on it must refer Not to Christ traveling there, but to his Apostle and cousin St Jude, who traveled there carrying the Holy Mandylion, the Burial Shroud of Jesus with his image miraculously imprinted on it.

Also there was a disciple that it is likely traveled with St Jude and brought back the Mandylion from India to Turkey, when the Apostle died in Kashmir or Pamir, his name was Thadeus, that in many traditions has been merged In only one person with his Master.

Another possibility was his other Apostle and also cousin, St Thomas, that was very look like Christ physically, who actually went to the subcontinent in misioner trip, but Not to Kashmir.

The tale in its current form has been used by Muslims and Buddhists Not to recognize that they have Insisted to reject to accept Christian faith, but to try to prevent the Christianization of Pakistan and Northern India, with the audacity of to claim that Jesus was a kind of Buddhist monk.

Thanks

The Angel of Lightness

en.wikipedia.org...

Emperor Aśoka the Great (304 BCE–232 BCE) was the ruler of the Maurya Empire from 273 BCE to 232 BCE.
By 90 BC, Parthians took control of eastern Iran and around 50 BC put an end to last remnants of Greek rule in Afghanistan. By around 7 AD, an Indo-Parthian dynasty succeeded in taking control of Gandhāra. Parthians continued to support Greek artistic traditions in Gandhara. The start of the Gandhāran Greco-Buddhist art is dated to the period between 50 BC and 75 AD.

400 B.C. (400 Year Intervals)
100 B.C. (100 Years Before Body of Jesus, (Fatima Prophecy)
6 B.C Jesus is Born most likely in March (Flight 370) (May 13 and Oct 13, Eclipses of that Year (Fatima Prophecy))
70 A.D. the Temple in Jerusalem is Destroyed

ZECHARIAH 14:8 And it shall be in that day, [that] living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
ZECHARIAH 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
ZECHARIAH 14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and [from] the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.

1. Tower of Babel (33000 B.C. to 10000 B.C.)
2. Jacob's Angels Ascending and Descending (2000 B.C.)
3. Jesus Dove Ascending and Descending (0 B.C.)
4. Temple of Revelation, Ascending and Descending (2000 A.D.)

"Living Waters Go out from Jerusalem, when the Lord's Body is Revealed, he is One King over the Earth" - Zechariah" - India's Pattern Matches the One Generation of Activity Pattern, from the bombings of Japan, in relation to the Generation when the Body of Jesus is Revealed

c. 100 CE The large series of Mahayana Buddhist texts named in Sanskrit Prajnaparamita “Perfection of wisdom” begins to be written in Southern India. ancient.eu/india/

400 B.C. (Begins 400 year Interval Observance) to 100 B.C. (100 years from Body of Jesus or, Paralleling Fatima's Prophecy to the Present)

Advaita Vedanta proponent Adi Shankara is believed to have "defeated Buddhism" and established Hindu supremacy. This rivalry undercut Buddhist patronage and popular support. The period between 400 CE and 1000 CE thus saw gains by the Vedanta school of Hinduism over Buddhism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Buddhism_in_India

1. (Gabriel is a Name for Jesus, that began the 14 Dynasty Parallel Observance, that continue to the present with the Presidencies of USA)
2. (Zacharias is a Name for Jesus, that began 400 Year Interval Observance, in 400 B.C.)
3. (Emmanuel is a Name for Jesus, that began the 100 Year Interval Observance from the Body of Jesus, and Sign of Divorce)

400 B.C. to 100 B.C. = 300 Years, then 70 A.D. the Temple was Destroyed in Jerusalem


Roanoke Colony + 300 Years to Japan Bombings, and then 70 Years to the Body of Jesus...............Recall................the 100 Year Interval from the Body of Jesus is a pattern, and this is a more complete expression of that pattern that surrounds the Body of Jesus, past and present.

Roanoke Colony and the Prophecy of Allen C. Martin about the Presidents of the USA, are the same conclusion following along this parallel that happened with the Birth of Jesus, to the end of time, with the Sign of Divorce, involving the Body of Jesus (the Figures for the Dating of the Isaiah Scroll, also shows these figures).



(INRI, Inc*/Rape/Mur*) This is not a conviction that is isolated to the Son of Man, meaning it has a base in humanity. That said Genetic Dan will hit hard and it will hit low, before it dies. One of the Methods God used surrounding Jesus was resurrection, to help motivate the people to kill, Genetic Dan, and dead work/flesh. Translated to today's terms, I'm sure the Antichrist will review his good mercies for 33 Days, and, and encourage the general freezing of bodies of servants of the state, and the populace, disenfranchised by death. Given the nature of Genetic Dan's desperation before it dies. Nothing fancy is necessary, just a body, so we'll come back to this issue shortly. I'm sure. 33 Days, and then 5 months, we'll have the black knight satellite for sure, we may even have it for 7 years. (INRI, that is what you do now with me, is a pleasure that cuts man off spiritually and impacts the judgment, God's specific discernment of the Sign of Divorce, so we'll have to see how this is resolved in a few weeks on 8/21 to 9/23, but we have a good idea). Love and Blessings. (More Nightly Walks Planned in the future to help keep this problem tamed).

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Auburn is a variety of blond color of hair, it corresponds to the reddish one. It is a compose color with traces of gold, red and brown.

How golden, red or brown it looks depend on the light also of the place and moment, it has reflections that change in the presence of shadow or sun.

There are about four or five different kinds of blond, deppending on how specific you want to be in to describe them.

So Blond is not a color of hair, it is Instead a range or spectrum of them.

Now, the reddish golden color we are talking is described consistently by different sources Christ had matches in nature with the color of the Chesnut for instance.

The Angel of Lightness

a reply to: The angel of light

whatever...these are all guesses ...no eyewitness accounts were used in rendering those images...but keep up the iconography, you have obviously chosen to skip the bit about idolatry in the Old Testament