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originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2
Still waiting on that new thread. Given the "quality" of most of the ones you craft, it should not take long ....
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: edmc^2
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: edmc^2
Hahaha, too bad for you then. Your ability to go beyond the physical has reached its limit.
No wonder you can't go forward.
So I take it you have figured out how to go beyond the physical then? Why aren't you a Nobel prize winner? Oh wait, you don't have that ability either, you just believe it all based on pure faith. Silly me, for a second there I thought you might actually know something.
Sorry man, things don't exist just because you believe in them.
Wow, according to you, looks like I'm the only ONE who came up with the idea of INFINITY and its existence and believes it! Thanks.
So I'm getting my Nobel prize soon, I suppose.
No you did not. You appropriated the answer I gave you: if something has no cause, then it's infinite. It has no beginning and no end. And since we cannot prove infinity, the question is a moot point. It's meaningless.
And I seriously doubt that atheists and scientists who study evolution find this to be a conundrum. We simply have no way of knowing. There's no test for infinity.
This thread is not worth 45 pages. At the very least, you should have been able to answer the question yourself just using deductive logic.
The future of mathematics
Still, despite all of the uncertainties, the work done by set theorists could have positive ripple effects that serve to strengthen the foundations of mathematics, Woodin said. "By investigating infinity, and to the extent that we can be successful, I think we make the case for the consistency of arithmetic," he explained. "That's a bit of a fanatical statement, but if infinity doesn't lead to a contradiction, certainly the finite doesn't lead to a contradiction. So, maybe by exploring the outer reaches to see if there is a contradiction, you gain some security." The paradoxes that characterize the concept of infinity are perhaps best explained with the number pi, Strogatz said. Pi, one of the most recognizable mathematical constants, represents the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter. Among its myriad applications, pi can be used to find the area of a circle. "Pi is typical of real numbers … in that it has this infinite amount of unpredictable information in it, and at the same time, is so totally predictable," Strogatz said. "There's nothing more orderly than a circle, which pi embodies — it's the very symbol of order and perfection. So this coexistence of perfect predictability and order, with this tantalizing mystery of infinite enigma built into the same object, is part of the pleasure of our subject and, I suppose, of infinity itself."
originally posted by: Phantom423
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: edmc^2
Still waiting on that new thread. Given the "quality" of most of the ones you craft, it should not take long ....
Do we really need another 45+ pages from an OP who doesn't read responses, doesn't respond, and who is willfully ignorant?
Don't encourage!
originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: Phantom423
But he promised. I'd hate this to be another creationist, who can't walk the walk Oh wait.....
originally posted by: edmc^2
a reply to: Noinden
let's do that again.
Case CloseD!
originally posted by: Barcs
originally posted by: edmc^2
a reply to: Noinden
let's do that again.
Case CloseD!
This case was closed on page 2. Nothing has been proved or established in this thread, only that you can't prove anything you claim is real, and we knew that already. Basically you proved that you have faith. Congrats.
If something has no cause, does it have a beginning? What say you?
originally posted by: edmc^2
Everything that has a beginning has a cause.
So, what's the answer to this simple question:
If something has no cause, does it have a beginning?
What say you?
So, what's the answer to this simple question:
If something has no cause, does it have a beginning?
What say you?