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"Communism for Kids":Published by MIT Press

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posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:08 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: Bone75

Ooooh, i forgot... a delusional movie franchise must be right... Shoot, I wonder who can't differentiate between reality and a movie...


Right about what? That there are advantages to collectivism? Of course there are. You'd have to be part of a mindless herd to not be able to come up with any.




posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:13 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: daskakik

LOL... It's that why 80,000 tons + of food were rotting in socialist government warehouses while people were going hungry in Venezuela?...

I guess the problems of Venezuela "have nothing to do with the redistribution and rationing that socialist/communist nations are known for"...

You still got that tinfoil hat on too tight and don't realize it...

BTW, not only did I see the houses of communist leaders in Cuba, I was born, lived and experienced life in Cuba as a Cuban.



Venezuela isn't the United States. We're the only country in the world that could actually pull off "Communism" and still maintain our throw-away lifestyle.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:19 AM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

I know I mentioned this before but I once had a professor who told me that while hated Trump and called him a man baby and is not a conspiracy theorist acknowledge that the Left is just as dangerous and that they are causing problems too.

He acknowledged that the Liberal Coastal Elite treated the white working class like trash and that they are using minorities for their own ends.

He also acknowledged the dangers of Political Correctness.

He told me if he openly expressed his views he'll lose his job.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:19 AM
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it always amazes me when people say how great Communism/Socialism is. we see that there are only handful left and of them many have adapted to a more capitalist state and have more than one party. and are usually some of the poorest countries in the world. except china who has used it's massive population to gain wealth and bring it's poor up. but they had to use capitalist principles to do it.

if Communism/Socialism is so great, why the change?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

That there are advantages to collectivism? Of course there are. You'd have to be part of a mindless herd to not be able to come up with any.


The surest thing to come with collectivism is absolutely mindless herdish groupthink mentality, with inherent cult of personality secondary infections (inherent to human nature when deeply identifying with group hierarchies).




posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: hounddoghowlie

we see that there are only handful left and of them many have adapted to a more capitalist state and have more than one party.


How many of them abolished their currency?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The surest thing to come with collectivism is absolutely mindless herdish groupthink mentality


I sure hear that a lot.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
LOL... It's that why 80,000 tons + of food were rotting in socialist government warehouses while people were going hungry in Venezuela?...

Why else?


I guess the problems of Venezuela "have nothing to do with the redistribution and rationing that socialist/communist nations are known for"...

No, this is exactly the problem. They can call it what they want but it is plain crony-capitalism. That is what the video showed.


BTW, not only did I see the houses of communist leaders in Cuba, I was born, lived and experienced life in Cuba as a Cuban.

That was actually my point.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: Bone75


How many of them abolished their currency?

none that i know of, but lots of people say that they keep it under valued. got to keep the yuan low.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:47 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The surest thing to come with collectivism is absolutely mindless herdish groupthink mentality


I sure hear that a lot.


I can show you the science of it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 01:51 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The surest thing to come with collectivism is absolutely mindless herdish groupthink mentality


I sure hear that a lot.


I can show you the science of it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Are you trying to convince me to join your herd?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 02:56 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Communism is not a belief or set of beliefs. It’s simply a reflection of the way in which people who never grow up act or conduct themselves. If you offer them something that is not good as they had hoped for, they will dismiss it as unacceptable without letting it go in the first place and then coming back with the necessary changes to achieve the desired fit. They don’t try, they cry.
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posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:11 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

Are you trying to convince me to join your herd?


HAHA

That's the ultimate irony of my movement: with a bias against developing a deep irrational groupthink mindnumb, Socio-Agnosticism is inherently Bent on being futile. Humans are just hardwired to tribalism, to a fault.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:15 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I was referring to authoritarianism and unchecked corporatism. I just forgot to quote.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:20 AM
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a reply to: XAnarchistX

I think gradually stepping down from the State is the way to go. Chaos only creates opportunities for warlords. Sudden abolishment of the State would be chaotic.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:21 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

About Authoritarianism, you do realize its even more inherent to Big Government? This isn't to justify it in any instance.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:26 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Governments shouldn't play favorites. At the same time businesses shouldn't be jerks and poison people, animals, land and water. Unfortunately we aren't at a place yet that we can just agree that these things won't happen. What to do?



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

What is your point? I don't think you understand the topic well enough to have a discussion about it with. You seem to stubbornly cling to definitions of terms and concepts that were warped into propagandist tools as opposed to their original meanings.

For example, socialism does not mean large welfare state. You need to read about Bakunin, Proudhon, Zinn, Chomsky and the beginnings of the French Revolution to understand what actual Socialist theory/philosophy comes from.

Socialism wasn't birthed by Marx and while he was brilliant even students of Marx agree on the previously mentioned fatal flaw, the transitional state. There are very few Statists among modern Socialists. The transitional state was a more popular notion in the 50s and 60s.



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 04:56 AM
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originally posted by: Bone75

Right about what? That there are advantages to collectivism? Of course there are. You'd have to be part of a mindless herd to not be able to come up with any.


The fact that you used a photo of a fictional movie to claim "it is possible"... It is a movie not based on reality but illusion...



posted on Apr, 15 2017 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: Kali74


Discussion about with?... You and other "socialists" want to deny time and again that your precious, and magical utopia that only exists in your mind, has ever done any harm...

You "socialists" all claim time and again "those socialist/communist systems weren't really socialist"... That's the same type of denial for personal responsibility/accountability that you all claim "makes society better", when it only makes it worst. But that is the sort of denial socialists like yourself indulge on constantly.

You don't give a sheet about the fact that your ideology has caused more deaths than all world wars and other major conflicts around the world put together, and if we were to include the deaths and suffering brought upon this world by national socialists the numbers of murders, and political imprisonment the list of victims for your "precious utopia" increase even more. Socialism/communism has also imprison millions of people in"gulags/prisons" for simply disagreeing with your views and wanting to break from the "herd and collectivist mentality" you have embraced.

You want to parley about the goodness of "socialism"? How about you do it with the over 120-160 million souls murdered by communist regimes as they imposed "the socialist utopia"?...

And stop it with the contrived idea to change the meaning about socialism...which the far left radicals decided to do to yet once again try to indoctrinate people and this time into accepting a "globalist socialist dictatorship", for "the good of all of course"... Socialism will always be the state taking control over every aspect of people's lives.

Socialists never tired to claim "we do all this for the good of all"... From murdering/killing millions of people, to imprisoning millions more for disagreeing with the "socialist ideal".

Of course socialists like yourself don't think you have caused enough suffering and death... You still want to "keep trying the same old system that is nothing but a death sentence to all individual freedoms and all human rights.


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