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White House says it won't make visitor logs public

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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: dukeofjive696969

No I am saying Trump haters GOT NOTHING.

Same old snip different day. Different Thread.


It's not just "Trump Haters"???

I can simply look for YOUR POSTS when there was a democrat in the WH...


NEO from 2013


originally posted by: neo96


"President Obama and his successors in the Oval Office are not obligated to make public the names of individuals visiting the White House, according to a decision of the federal Circuit Court for the District of Columbia made public Friday. "

Oh hell yes they are.

After making the arrogant statements about how 'the current administration is the most transparent in US history'.

Yet another nail that bursts that demagogic bubble.


neo96 post 2013
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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Has Trump claimed his is the most transparent presidency of all time? If he has, you have a great point.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 09:44 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: dragonridr

Yeah that $25,000.00 sure will take a bite out of our budget.
Thank god for donald trump.


Obama was sued to release the white house visitors log and lost in court. You can now request a copy through freedom of information. However posting it is just silly. Add to that they edit it removing who ever they wanted what'd the point of putting it up. The reason it was posted was to simply through people off the track.

Since the people were removed the list meant nothing




The man that visited the BO WH the third most times was a mystery until it was determined he was coming to see his wife who works there...not the prez.






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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Indigo5

Has Trump claimed his is the most transparent presidency of all time? If he has, you have a great point.


Does his spokesperson count?





"What we've seen in government for so often is that people have been shady -- about their roles, hiding things, not releasing things."

"When is it enough? At some point, the level of transparency has exceeded any modern president in terms of who's involved," Spicer continued

www.cnn.com...

We could ask Trump himself about it...but he has given only 1 solo news conference since being elected President.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Indigo5

Has Trump claimed his is the most transparent presidency of all time? If he has, you have a great point.


Does his spokesperson count?





"What we've seen in government for so often is that people have been shady -- about their roles, hiding things, not releasing things."

"When is it enough? At some point, the level of transparency has exceeded any modern president in terms of who's involved," Spicer continued

www.cnn.com...

We could ask Trump himself about it...but he has given only 1 solo news conference since being elected President.


That is specifically about the transition. White house logs have nothing to do with that. Try again?



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Indigo5

Has Trump claimed his is the most transparent presidency of all time? If he has, you have a great point.


Does his spokesperson count?





"What we've seen in government for so often is that people have been shady -- about their roles, hiding things, not releasing things."

"When is it enough? At some point, the level of transparency has exceeded any modern president in terms of who's involved," Spicer continued

www.cnn.com...

We could ask Trump himself about it...but he has given only 1 solo news conference since being elected President.


That is specifically about the transition. White house logs have nothing to do with that. Try again?


Obviously you choose to interpret it that way.



Trump 2012

Donald J. Trump
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A lot of undecided and independent voters have had enough with Obama’s lack of transparency. I don't blame them.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
Obviously you choose to interpret it that way.



No, it's what the entire article is about.

Spicer: Transparency in Trump transition 'has exceeded any modern president'


It's about Trump's transition. No interpretation necessary.



posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

It's about Trump's transition. No interpretation necessary.


So when Spicer said this:
""What we've seen in government for so often is that people have been shady -- about their roles, hiding things, not releasing things."

He was talking only about only the two month transition?

But it's "shady -- about their roles, hiding things, not releasing things" is A-OK once in office?

THAT's what he really meant?

Does it ever hurt your brain defending this stuff?
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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 02:49 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5
Does it ever hurt your brain defending this stuff?

There is nothing to defend, you made an erroneous claim and I proved it. Obama claimed he was going to be the most transparent of all time. Trump has never made that claim.

Transparency is good, but also needs to have limits. I judge Obama on the entirety of his policies, and he was as transparent as a brick of coal. Trump has seemed to suggest he should be more transparent than Obama. Him not releasing logs that Obama went to court over not having to release does nothing to make Trump less transparent than Obama. It's an area I agree transparency needs to be limited.
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posted on Apr, 17 2017 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

I was there twice. We just got in line.
That was prior to 9/11 though so maybe they get the names of everyone now.



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