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Trump Threatens Coverage Of Millions If Democrats Won’t Negotiate On ACA Repeal

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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:44 AM
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President Donald Trump is contemplating a new strategy to get repeal of the Affordable Care Act through Congress: threatening to torpedo insurance for millions of Americans unless Democrats agree to negotiate with him.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal that appeared on Wednesday, Trump made a warning. If Democrats won’t talk repeal, the president said, Republicans might decide to cut off some subsidies now flowing to health insurers offering coverage through Obamacare’s exchanges.

“I don’t want people to get hurt,” Trump said, sounding a bit like a mobster describing a protection racket. “What I think should happen — and will happen — is the Democrats will start calling me and negotiating.”

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Trump seems to be all over the place when it comes to the ACA. First it was repeal. Then it was repeal and replace. Then it was if the GOP didn't pass the AHCA Trump was moving on to tax reform. Now it's if the Democrats don't agree to repeal he's going to screw over the poor. Who knows where his seemingly ADHD raddled brain is going to lead him next on this complicated (seriously, who knew healthcare could be so complicated?) topic.

Now whether or not Trump actually makes good on his threat remains to be seen. While he may have taken action after his line in the sand was crossed in Syria his track record when it comes to domestic issues is nowhere near as sterling. That said the potential threat alone could be enough to scare off insurance companies.

I think it has become clear at this point that Trump is no champion of the working class. They may have been one of the key groups that got him voted in to office; but since then it seems like he has done everything in his power to hurt them. The AHCA was a giant middle finger to the poor. The proposed changes to education primarily benefit the rich. Hell, many of the program and agencies he wants to gut/cut are primarily used by the lower class.

If Trump and the GOP keep up this anti-working class stance they have seemingly adopted they're going to be hurting when 2018/20 comes around.




posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254

President Donald Trump is contemplating a new strategy to get repeal of the Affordable Care Act through Congress: threatening to torpedo insurance for millions of Americans unless Democrats agree to negotiate with him.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal that appeared on Wednesday, Trump made a warning. If Democrats won’t talk repeal, the president said, Republicans might decide to cut off some subsidies now flowing to health insurers offering coverage through Obamacare’s exchanges.

“I don’t want people to get hurt,” Trump said, sounding a bit like a mobster describing a protection racket. “What I think should happen — and will happen — is the Democrats will start calling me and negotiating.”

Source

Trump seems to be all over the place when it comes to the ACA. First it was repeal. Then it was repeal and replace. Then it was if the GOP didn't pass the AHCA Trump was moving on to tax reform. Now it's if the Democrats don't agree to repeal he's going to screw over the poor. Who knows where his seemingly ADHD raddled brain is going to lead him next on this complicated (seriously, who knew healthcare could be so complicated?) topic.

Now whether or not Trump actually makes good on his threat remains to be seen. While he may have taken action after his line in the sand was crossed in Syria his track record when it comes to domestic issues is nowhere near as sterling. That said the potential threat alone could be enough to scare off insurance companies.

I think it has become clear at this point that Trump is no champion of the working class. They may have been one of the key groups that got him voted in to office; but since then it seems like he has done everything in his power to hurt them. The AHCA was a giant middle finger to the poor. The proposed changes to education primarily benefit the rich. Hell, many of the program and agencies he wants to gut/cut are primarily used by the lower class.

If Trump and the GOP keep up this anti-working class stance they have seemingly adopted they're going to be hurting when 2018/20 comes around.


Seems like he wants to do at least something about it before prices soar to unaffordable prices. So far year after year, our choices have narrowed and prices have continued to go up. That doesn't even touch on the fact that it is a severe drain on our budget and will continue to get worse.


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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:53 AM
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So Trump wants to play with people's lives just to give himself a win.

That says a lot.
edit on 14-4-2017 by underwerks because: (no reason given)


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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:56 AM
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The Dems will not face the fact that Obamacare is destroying healthcare in this country. If they won't play ball, then the only thing Trump can do is to force their hand somehow.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
The Dems will not face the fact that Obamacare is destroying healthcare in this country. If they won't play ball, then the only thing Trump can do is to force their hand somehow.


The dems are sure that if they just wait long enough, they can force government-run single payer on us all. That's what Obaamcare was really designed to do, and it's working as intended except for that fact that the wrong people won the election.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 11:58 AM
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We do need to replace Obamacare, it is too expensive, but they need to work together to do that. I actually thought Obamacare might work but it was a mess from the beginning and it got worse. We have to start stipulating what tests are allowable and disallow tests that are too expensive. We have to monitor to make sure doctors are not prescribing tests that are not needed, a quarter or more of tests nowadays are not needed. The Medical/pharma industries want us dependent on them and fearing things so we go to them more. The worst place to go during a flu outbreak is in a doctors office with other sick people. We got major problems, one is that schools and employers are requiring medical excuses by doctors for missed days. Most times a couple of days off will make people better.

I have nothing against reasonable health care, I just cannot see going to a doctor just because you catch a cold. They don't do much anyway, they have been handing out tamaflu prescriptions here lately, that is two hundred bucks a pop for pine needle tea. Just drink some lemonade or lemon lime drinks, the limonine in those has a similar effect to Tamaflu. First sign flu is in the area, make some lemon zest bar or cake, key lime pie works great too.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254

President Donald Trump is contemplating a new strategy to get repeal of the Affordable Care Act through Congress: threatening to torpedo insurance for millions of Americans unless Democrats agree to negotiate with him.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal that appeared on Wednesday, Trump made a warning. If Democrats won’t talk repeal, the president said, Republicans might decide to cut off some subsidies now flowing to health insurers offering coverage through Obamacare’s exchanges.

“I don’t want people to get hurt,” Trump said, sounding a bit like a mobster describing a protection racket. “What I think should happen — and will happen — is the Democrats will start calling me and negotiating.”

Source

Trump seems to be all over the place when it comes to the ACA. First it was repeal. Then it was repeal and replace. Then it was if the GOP didn't pass the AHCA Trump was moving on to tax reform. Now it's if the Democrats don't agree to repeal he's going to screw over the poor. Who knows where his seemingly ADHD raddled brain is going to lead him next on this complicated (seriously, who knew healthcare could be so complicated?) topic.

Now whether or not Trump actually makes good on his threat remains to be seen. While he may have taken action after his line in the sand was crossed in Syria his track record when it comes to domestic issues is nowhere near as sterling. That said the potential threat alone could be enough to scare off insurance companies.

I think it has become clear at this point that Trump is no champion of the working class. They may have been one of the key groups that got him voted in to office; but since then it seems like he has done everything in his power to hurt them. The AHCA was a giant middle finger to the poor. The proposed changes to education primarily benefit the rich. Hell, many of the program and agencies he wants to gut/cut are primarily used by the lower class.

If Trump and the GOP keep up this anti-working class stance they have seemingly adopted they're going to be hurting when 2018/20 comes around.

And? My tax payer money shouldn't go to subsidizing anyone. Sorry you are sick..Not my problem.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

Well the Democrat Congress does have an obligation to their voters: to make Trump suffer via non-negotiation at the behest of all those hysterical Millennials who went out of their minds at the prompting of the MSM because Hillary loss due to rampant sexism. Or was it the Russian's? Or was it Wikileaks? Wikipedia? I forget. But you know what I mean.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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America isn't a socialist country. Want free health care? Russia is that way.

en.wikipedia.org...
edit on 14-4-2017 by allsee4eye because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
We do need to replace Obamacare, it is too expensive, but they need to work together to do that. I actually thought Obamacare might work but it was a mess from the beginning and it got worse.


The Dems wanted to work on it, fixing it.

The Reps refused.


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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: Annee

If the Dems wanted a good bill, why didn't they get it right the first time?



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: odinsway

And what do you think is going to happen when the entire working class can't afford healthcare?

Oh that's right, all those jobs will be done by robots within the next 10 years.

Maybe then the neocons will get their wish and all the poor will die. All in the name of Christ of course.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

It's a bargaining chip. That's all.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

The auto industry lost hundreds of thousands of jobs to automation. Automation is here to stay. And it's only getting more and more advanced. Billions are invested in automation every year.
edit on 14-4-2017 by allsee4eye because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: odinsway

And what do you think is going to happen when the entire working class can't afford healthcare?

Oh that's right, all those jobs will be done by robots within the next 10 years.

Maybe then the neocons will get their wish and all the poor will die. All in the name of Christ of course.


Not exactly sure how not being able to afford health insurance equates to health care equates to robot work force.

You make so many leaps of logic here that I suspect you must be a kangaroo.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:27 PM
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This is what Trump haters always wanted.

The end of private care.

Enter 'unversial' healthcare.


(post by 0zzymand0s removed for political trolling and baiting)

posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Because they tried to reach across the aisle. Remember that the ACA is essentially nationwide Romneycare. If the Republicans couldn't get healthcare right in Massachusetts why should we now trust them to get it right on a national scale?



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: allsee4eye
America isn't a socialist country. Want free health care? Russia is that way.




But no problem bailing out banks, subsidizing corporations that make obscene profits, fighting BS wars with tax dollars, enriching the likes of Halliburton....

But helping The American working man is socialism?

Don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!
edit on 14-4-2017 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 12:30 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad

originally posted by: Xcalibur254

President Donald Trump is contemplating a new strategy to get repeal of the Affordable Care Act through Congress: threatening to torpedo insurance for millions of Americans unless Democrats agree to negotiate with him.

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal that appeared on Wednesday, Trump made a warning. If Democrats won’t talk repeal, the president said, Republicans might decide to cut off some subsidies now flowing to health insurers offering coverage through Obamacare’s exchanges.

“I don’t want people to get hurt,” Trump said, sounding a bit like a mobster describing a protection racket. “What I think should happen — and will happen — is the Democrats will start calling me and negotiating.”

Source

Trump seems to be all over the place when it comes to the ACA. First it was repeal. Then it was repeal and replace. Then it was if the GOP didn't pass the AHCA Trump was moving on to tax reform. Now it's if the Democrats don't agree to repeal he's going to screw over the poor. Who knows where his seemingly ADHD raddled brain is going to lead him next on this complicated (seriously, who knew healthcare could be so complicated?) topic.

Now whether or not Trump actually makes good on his threat remains to be seen. While he may have taken action after his line in the sand was crossed in Syria his track record when it comes to domestic issues is nowhere near as sterling. That said the potential threat alone could be enough to scare off insurance companies.

I think it has become clear at this point that Trump is no champion of the working class. They may have been one of the key groups that got him voted in to office; but since then it seems like he has done everything in his power to hurt them. The AHCA was a giant middle finger to the poor. The proposed changes to education primarily benefit the rich. Hell, many of the program and agencies he wants to gut/cut are primarily used by the lower class.

If Trump and the GOP keep up this anti-working class stance they have seemingly adopted they're going to be hurting when 2018/20 comes around.


Seems like he wants to do at least something about it before prices soar to unaffordable prices. So far year after year, our choices have narrowed and prices have continued to go up. That doesn't even touch on the fact that it is a severe drain on our budget and will continue to get worse.

Again , probably a glorified headline with sh** taken completely out of context. Millions of insured will drop their coverage when the rates go from 300 - 1000 dollars or so a month. I make a fairly good income and have insurance through work. Not ACA . The ACA has even driven up my policy by 200 dollars a month. So , in that respect , millions do stand to lose their healthcare . The folks will have to drop coverage because it will be too expensive for the normal family

The ACA is going to crumble from its own weight soon. As more insurers get out of this failing bill. They cant get the Fed subsidies as promised to enable keeping the prices low

Summation : Trump was right . It is time to rid the country of this malfeasance . I get it . We kept it for a while because Obama's name was attached to it. The days of idol worship or over. Time to get back to business . And recall , this bill was written by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid - NUFF SAID




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