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US Drops MOAB Bomb in Afghanistan

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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 01:09 PM
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Mother Of All Bombs is a nickname.

It's called Massive Ordinance Air Blast.

About 35 ISIS fighters dead, it's a huge waste of money considering. The US has other weapons just as capable of destroying such targets.

From what people say the bomb costs, it's the near equivalent of $500,000 per person.
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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 01:10 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990

It also caused major damage to the cave complex. In addition to the fighters killed, that's a base they won't be using again any time soon.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 01:31 PM
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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

And tripped IEDs. And any mines.

I wonder if there was a group of them hiding in the tunnels.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

So in your opinion this was the best weapon for the job?

I know the US has a few developed weapons for jobs just like this, one's that create huge vacuums and potentially make a cave complex unstable.

That being said, cost would build up. This is a cure-all solution. But they weren't used in Afghanistan before when similar targets were available.

I just feel that politics and propaganda may have played a role in the decision to use such a weapon.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990

Politics almost always do anymore, but this was a good weapon to use for the mission. Previously there were US troops in the area that would have made it more dangerous. In this case, there weren't troops to worry about, and it did the job.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:15 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

I totally understand where you are coming from.

Iraq 2.0 was sold as a liberation of Iraqi's to the Iraqi people, it may have worked but terrorist organization purposefully attacked Iraqi citizens, when those citizens lost everything they turned against coalition forces because they saw it as "we wouldn't have lost everything if you were not here".

Unarmed people are useless against armed and organised people, so I can't help but think the threat of such devices landing near you isn't a foolproof idea.

Such policy could only work in tandem with ground forces, a policy of where people who expose terrorists will be protected whilst they are destroyed.

Because a farmer can't fight 30 armed men wishing to stockpile ammunition on his land and bombing his farm could potentially make him a terrorist also.

Point being the innocent and those who have little choice to obey terrorists are likely to lose following either avenue.

A similar thing happened in Vietnam, it didn't go well at all.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I can't disagree with that. It did get the job done too.

It's a good one off, useful for isolated situations and isolated hardened locations. I just hope it doesn't make public opinion feel it's acceptable to use such weapons more broadly.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990

The money was already spent.

Politics? Besides Trump freeing the military to do what they thought was needed... not really an issue.

And now another country is shaking in its boots because of this.

Call it "politics" if you want but it is more than a word.
edit on 14-4-2017 by TEOTWAWKIAIFF because: I'm an idiot typing

edit on 14-4-2017 by TEOTWAWKIAIFF because: Twice an idiot... so don't take my word for it



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

"I don't read the script. The script reads me"

LOL!!

And yes about the troops being in harms way.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:39 PM
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"They" said they killed about 30 terrorist ,how much one of those M.O.A.B cost, keep in mind a single special forces guy can do just that all by his lonesome, but how much of those we have, and what's the breakdown per terrorist in terms of cost, yes it was a big bum bum, so a day after , is ISIL and other bitch asses waving the white flag yet??..we up the anti on weapons of mass destruction, technology do not stay static ,it can and will acquired, by friends and foes, eg Nuclear powers Pakistan and India and ever ones favorite everyone's by lil Kim of NK.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: Spider879

Haven't read the thread, huh?

The money has already been spent. The bombs have been made. The known amount is 15 made. We dropped one.

The most effective way of keeping soldier deaths down was dropping a MOAB. What is the price of another US service man??



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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I liked Trump andsupported him, and if I'd been a Yank I'd have voted for him too.

But he's starting to worry me a bit now, since I think he's proving to be a typical politician in that he wants to be liked and have approval over all else.

He's gone from "we won't get involved in fights in other countries" to Syria and the MOAB in the space of a few days.

It seems to me when he came to office he went off and aimed to do what he wanted and to hell with everyone else, but since then - since he couldn't get anything done because the "system" was thwarting him - he's now just doing what is expected of him, just like all the rest.

I guess it goes to show that those who pull the strings are too powerful to be opposed.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

It'll be replaced, but I agree with your later post about the cost of servicemen and women.

At the end of the day it's all political, I disagree with your idea that another nation is shaking in it's boots, that's if you mean Afghanistan. Because regardless of corruption and the likes, Afghanistan shouldn't be fearing the US, we had/have a duty to support them since we worked on usurping the form of rule they had.

It usually is more than politics, for instance. One of the biggest if not the biggest trade deals of all time was Saudi acquisition of a crap load if Western armaments, we were told it was strategic and a smart political move. Fact is it was a dirty as hell deal and was covered up under national security interests by governments like my own.

Money is usually a key player, I'm not saying this was about money because their isn't really indication of that. But if MOAB's get used more often people will get rich... It makes the US military look more badass too.

Win/Win, not so much for tax payers in the longrun though.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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a reply to: RAY1990

North Korea is the intention. "See what we can do"? which may have worked because DDOS started just after.

No digs. On the other part. And every politician will always frame the narrative in their best light.

It's a sideways message to North Korea (MOAB).



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Regardless of your thoughts on war or whether it was started to perpetuate war endlessly, the fact is we can't walk away now.

I mean, sure, we could surrender I suppose.

But I'd rather win a war instead.


Afghanistan, where empires go to die.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,

And the women come out to hack up your remains,

Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains,

And go to your Gawd like a solider.


---Rudyard Kipling



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: Power_Semi

Nobody is leading a Western nation without being in the pockets of the super-rich.

It's near impossible, the system doesn't allow it. I know everyone said the media hated Trump but they haven't been that objective, I'll not mention companies, no need. We've all seen the pro-Trump propaganda.

The news moguls, again won't bother with names... But if a leader isn't aligned to them and their ilk, they'll destroy that leader.

Trump already knew all this, he's good friends with Vince McMahon. A man who is an expert at pulling the heartstrings of the people who watch WWE and that IS entertainment.

I'm not saying Trump won't provide, the better one's do despite being in the pockets of TPTB, a good example is the Tony Blair witch project.



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:36 PM
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The USA just successfully tested a B61-12 nuclear weapon at Tonopah test range as it stands ready to wipe another nation off this earth for doing the same.The lunatics now run the asylum



posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I get you now


China's comments today are interesting too.

China fears US-NK conflict could happen at any moment

It's heating up, I said months ago, a Korean conflict is likely in 2017. Looks like China will just man it's border, I'll not get into the doom porn of it but it could spiral into Manchuria and beyond.

Would have loved to be a fly on the wall with Trump's meeting...
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posted on Apr, 14 2017 @ 03:39 PM
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The way things are going Id say the Lord of the flies chaired the meeting.



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