Trump: We're not going into Syria

a reply to: Idreamofme

It's not that I'm confused, it's just that I don't have enough reliable information.

Because I cannot form a definitive opinion, it does not mean I am confused.


However, the reaction of our president does perplex me. That is not dependent upon the the circumstances which seemingly precipitated his response. What ever happened with the gas attack, what Trump did was pointless.

reliable information is a lost art.

Information= Propaganda.

Trust your gut.

a reply to: Idreamofme

reliable information is a lost art.

Just do not go to Fox News and CNN and especially Breitbart.

That eliminates like 80% of "reliable information" online.

a reply to: Phage

Look the guy is an ex casino operator you drop 10,000 at the table but you get a free prawn cocktail so your 'a winner 'we saw this today when he donated his salary to a department he just defunded 1.5 billion,its all about the sting or deal Im not confused about that,what the deal is that I cant discern.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Just do not go to Fox News and CNN and especially Breitbart.

Note to self. RT is a reliable news source.

That eliminates like 80% of "reliable information" online.

Unless it's repeated a bazillion times. That's what makes it real news.

Does anyone else think that Sorcha Faal was training wheels?

a reply to: Phage

Does anyone else think that Sorcha Faal was training wheels?

You had to go there.

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: enlightenedservant

I can only hope it's some strategic ploy, otherwise all it's doing is causing confusion and creating a back-lash among his supporters.

On the surface, it really does appear to be what you are suggesting. That is NOT a good thing for the security of the nation. This admin better get it together or Trump may have both sides looking for immediate impeachment.

The conspiratorial mind may point out that this could be the plan all along....

Imagine the confusion of the enemy.

He was like Michael Corleone with the chinese dude when all the hits were going down on the other families.

Great scene.

With Trump, it's what he says and what he doesn't say.

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Well, yeah.

I've been on ATS for a while now.

"Kremlin sources say...."

a reply to: Phage

Does anyone else think that Sorcha Faal was training wheels?

You an editor over at rationalwiki?

rationalwiki.org...

Sorcha Faal reports sometimes appear on conspiracy forums such as Above Top Secret and Godlike Productions, often after being republished by other websites (such as the European Union Times). Invariably, the following amusing pattern emerges: it usually takes only a few posts before the forumites identify the source and the author and start piling verbal abuse on the idiot reposting such bull# and on Sorcha Faal herself, often twisting the name into "such a fail" or some variant thereof.[9] The bad news is that this doesn't stop other forum-dwellers from believing it.

a reply to: D8Tee

Nope.

Just an ATS member. According to Kremlin sources.

WE_ARE_ALREADY_IN_SYRIA.

a reply to: Phage

"Kremlin sources say...."

Oh no you went there. Now Phage is officially a russian spy.
Джек в коробке

a reply to: Deaf Alien

Busted

a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

You made a definitive statement about liberals in general, saying:

and as such one of the main reasons I've been so unrelenting against liberal types is when it was Obama doing it liberals still defend him in general to the death.

When I pointed you towards 2 entire movements of liberals within the left wing who contradict your statement, we suddenly don't count? I'm talking about the millions of liberals who support Bernie and the liberals who support the Green Party, not Bernie himself (which is why I said "Bernie supporters (and Green Party voters)" in my post).

Also, you didn't answer my question. Do you actually check genuine left wing sites and/or forums to see what liberals really think about Pres Obama and Hillary's war actions? Or are you simply saying what you and other right wingers think we care about?

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: Idreamofme

He made the decision within 48 hours of said "chem attack".

He did not allow for an actual investigation.

The Russians and Syrians presented a completely different story that was ignored.

The Russians now believe it was a false flag to cause public support for regime change.

Many Trump supporters disapprove of this due to the prior situation in 2013 where Obama, McCain and Kerry wanted to bomb the # out of Syria but did not get congressional approval due to the same public out-lash in 2013. MORE evidence suggested that the "rebels" had staged the chem attack and NOT Assad's regime. This was ignored by the media.

Fast forward. We are in the SAME situation, except that Trump did not even BOTHER with getting congressional approval. This REEKS of typical establishment false flag BS. Trump may very well have been compromised by the "deep state" and establishment.

That SUCKS for Trump, because his supporters are MUCH smarter than this.

Here is what the Russians think-

Idlib ‘chemical attack’ was false flag to set Assad up, more may come – Putin

Many Trump supporters are seeing this exact same thing. Some of which, are Ron Paul supporters. Their hope is decreasing every time this crap keeps happening. Trump needs better intel.


The neo politicians from both sides of the fence are now winning. The neolibs and neocons are out in full force all with total support from the media in all directions.

RED FLAG. WAKE UP!!

Salute and well said !

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I said Bernie dont count, he himself a farce, when he was the Military Industrial Complex's tool. And then I look at how all he ever did was box and scrape to teh DNC after they "screwed" him; and how he stoked the rioters instead of preach unity post-election.

Then I looked back on how it was apparently his supporters out rioting Trump rallies and beating people in the streets; as once he was out of the race that stuff ended. I did actually make the grandest possible presentation trying to demonstrate / prove that they were Hillary / Soros paid goons ("Paid Riot Squads"), but I'll be damned if the resident liberals around here didn't go out of their minds loudly flat out patently REJECT the entire notion.

Which I did find odd as it got them off the hook for being such ruthless violent savages, which I've pointed out time and time again in other threads around here since, and yet the resident liberals around here still insist they weren't paid riot squads, which puts it back on Bernie supporters.

A year ago, when I hadn't been paying attentio whatsoever to the election, but then I heard Bernie and Trump were both upsetting the Ruling Establishment, and I already knew who he was from way ack, I said I'd vote for him. And then in the coming months before he dropped out I heard him a bunch and still said (around here I'd vote for him). A year later, when I add it all up, and it was blazingly obvious it was the 'proper' SJW types that had flocked to his camp, and I look at everything they've done and all their insanity, I'm glad I wasn't actually taking a Trump OR Bernie position anywhere until after the nominations stuff.

No, I dont go to liberal forums. Or use other social media. I just do ATS, which has a nice jumble of different viewpoints. I couldnt stand being in a right wing dominant forum and more than I could a dominant left winger site. Partisans all tend to be moonbats, especially when totally hunkered down in their tribal safe spaces. And its a bore.

I did notice some leftist antiwar sites made those "Official FAKE NEWS" sites lists put out by WaPo and their types. That helped me hammer out my fake news = whatever is against the establishments war propaganda, the narrative you can check out in my "Double Feature" there in my sig.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Wookiep

The gas attack? Is that what you're asking about?

I lean heavily to Assad (his military, in any case) doing it intentionally. I have a hard time thinking that Putin didn't know about it beforehand and let it happen.

I don't rule out the Syrian narrative, that they bombed a rebel weapons cache. But I don't find the argument convincing.

Does it make sense for Assad to do it? No more than it made sense for Trump to do what he did. Either way the point is to "send a message." Right?

TPTB sure don't have to work very hard to sell you some imperialism and war. If CNN says it, it must be so, eh? With that kind of "logic" I'd say you were a prime candidate to sucker into some man-made climate change scam, Phage.

originally posted by: Agit8dChop
He has said time and time again he wont broadcast whats going to happen.

What, you expected him to say '' Yes, we are going to go into Syria ''

We don't need to go in, the air force can destroy Assad in a day!

That's because he has no plan.

He says a lot of stuff. He said a lot of stuff during his campaign.

Not once did he have a plan to back any of it up.

originally posted by: Phage
What ever happened with the gas attack, what Trump did was pointless.

Yes!

As some "experts" have stated: He should have done nothing or had a plan to back up and continue his aggression.

A one shot Oops! Means very little to nothing.

Mostly it shows he can be triggered.

a reply to: Annee

Exactly. And being easily manipulated into making rash knreejerk reactions is horrible "leadership".