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Machete-wielding migrant arrested after raping woman in front of her boyfriend in Bonn

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posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Miracula2

originally posted by: yuppa
Ahem..


Ahem.
Christianity dont promote rape.


Ahem. Jesus said he did not come to do with Old Testament law. Period. However, you are correct in that the Bible does not promote it. However, it doesn't forbid it. It's not even a violation of the 10 Commandments anymore than fornication is.

Adultery and stealing are strictly forbidden.

But it is kind of a contradiction for the Bible to indicate that as part of your faith you are supposed to follow the law of the land and submit to legal authorities and yet not forbid a behavior which violates the law of the land on a major level. It's a felony.

However, in final the father according to the Bible can have the violator of his daughter's sexual rights killed. While not forbidden it also speaks strongly against it in allowing the father the right to deprive the violator of his life.







[ Oh no you dont. ATS. Here we see the typical christian basher. COnfusing Old testament rules with new testament rules. Failing to realize that both the OT and NT are specific to one group of people each.

Yes Jesus said eh came to not do away with the old law. he said that to the HEBREWS. And as such The hebrews are under the OT covenant at that time. What about the gentiles?

If the Gentiles were under the same Laws then they would have to keep the sabbath correct? SO later on when Asked about this Jesus said that gentiles did not have to keep the sabbath. Why would He say this UNLESS they are under a different set of rules? He would not have said this If the Gentiles were under OT law.

MIracula you no not of what you speak.

You do know that the bible is 2 BOOKS right? Contradictions arise when a person tries to CROSS REFERENCE the two SEPERATE BOOKS and COVENANTS.(caps for emphasis)

And actually Treating each other as yourself DOES generally mean RAPE is off limits and wrong. In other words would you want to be raped yourself? No you would not. So once again The Bible law for christians does NOT promote rape. ]


edit on 17000000pppm by yuppa because: quote tags screwed up used [ ] to mark my words.




posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
And there have been many perpetrated by white Europeans.... Your point is?


The point is that migrants are committing rapes and murders at drastically higher rates than white Europeans.
No, I'm not going to look up detailed statistics for you. Do your own research. You might learn something, like that "sanctuary city" isn't a "Muslim phobia term".


So..a baseless statistic you refuse to back up. Good job! Lol


go do some research so u can be informed



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 05:21 PM
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Frankly if a religion doesn't tell you that it's wrong to rape someone then it ain't worth following.
Try being a human being and leave the gods to their own rubbish if that's the way they want you thinking.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 05:32 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: trollz

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
just ONE that happened to be done by a migrant and not the other sick things done by native Europeans.


If you think there's only been one violent migrant attack, you're not in touch with reality.


And there have been many perpetrated by white Europeans.... Your point is?



The point is: You can't do anything about crime committed upon White Europeans by White Europeans because they #ing live there and always have.

This migrant and the thousands of other migrants who have committed brutal crimes upon Europeans did not have to be in Europe. All of these thousands of crimes - rapes, murders, ritualistic beheadings in churches hundreds of years old, NONE of them HAD to happen. ALL of them were utterly and entirely preventable by simply not having brought in literally millions of people whose social values are hundreds of years behind our own.

What part of that is so mother#ing difficult for you to grasp?



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:02 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Wait...unless...you have a Muslim bashing agenda?

Whats wrong with muslim bashing?
Have you seen the laws and liberties of muslim nations?

Christian nations dont allow for honor killings, homosexual executions, etc...muslim religion is trash (imo). Christian religions used to be equal trash but they had their Renaissance already


Muslim bashing does not mean Arab or Persian bashing mind you...people aren't born Muslim. Are you muslim? just wondering why the kneejerk defense over the religion


I argue against people who spread lies and hatred. That's most people in this thread.

I'm not Muslim , but I grew up in the ME and know that moat Muslims there are probably better people than you guys. Certainly more tolerant, and probably more friendly and generous.

Sorry. Truth hurts.


Truth hurts for those who support open borders if the statistics brought about in the video "cultural enrichment of germany" by Paul Watson has any truth, in the video the statistics are claimed sourced directly from the german government itself. Vast increase in crime and vast representation of said crime from migrants.

If you bring an individual who does not know the language of the land, and might not even be literate in their native tongue. What at best do you expect? What manner of employment? At best they will stress the social support, the welfare, beyond reason.


originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: SaturnFX

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
Wait...unless...you have a Muslim bashing agenda?

Whats wrong with muslim bashing?
Have you seen the laws and liberties of muslim nations?

Christian nations dont allow for honor killings, homosexual executions, etc...muslim religion is trash (imo). Christian religions used to be equal trash but they had their Renaissance already


Muslim bashing does not mean Arab or Persian bashing mind you...people aren't born Muslim. Are you muslim? just wondering why the kneejerk defense over the religion


I argue against people who spread lies and hatred. That's most people in this thread.

I'm not Muslim , but I grew up in the ME and know that moat Muslims there are probably better people than you guys. Certainly more tolerant, and probably more friendly and generous.

Sorry. Truth hurts.


Paul Watson seemingly says the statistics from the german government itself show hundreds of thousands of crimes committed by migrants, vast increase in crime mostly by migrants in just six weeks, iirc in the cultural enrichment video on youtube.
If these statistics are true, they should hurt anyone who considers open borders a good idea.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Breakthestreak

I have read many parts of the Quran. I have read violent passages that deal with defense against enemies in a war situation. I have also read many passages that deal with treating others with kindness and compassion - even if they are not Muslim. I have read passages that give women equal rights to men (the right to own property, run a business, decline a marriage offer, etc.)

Islam is like a gun. Islam itself harms no one. Bad people misuse Islam to do bad things. There are plenty of Muslims who follow Islam who are good people and don't hurt anyone. Don't blame Islam. Blame the bad people.

Wahhabism is the main culprit of all the evil we have seen in the name of Islam. Wahhabism was started by bad people who wanted to have ultimate control over a population - that includes Muslims AND non-Muslims - both have been harmed by Wahhabism. Wahhabism does not speak for all of Islam, but unfortunately it has taken political control over some Muslim countries.

It is not all of Islam that we need to worry about. Know who your enemy actually is. That's what having a high IQ is good for.

www.pbs.org...


SCIENCE says ADAM EVE, NOAH, they're all fake, fiction, even the quest for evidence of the exodus for the fabled Moses story seems to prove it likely fiction. When the founding book of the abrahamic faiths, is filled with fiction, we're dealing with a fictional God.

How can you embrace reason when you must hold irrational beliefs as your must cherished beliefs?

Do you think something like lashings are adequate punishments? Or do you consider it barbaric?

What should be the punishment for theft?

Know that anyone who embraces modern education, modern science, and reason, will see basically all religions as man made constructs. Know that if you view christianity or islam as man made, you're not a christian nor a muslim.

The only way you can be such is if you oppose reason or lack education.


edit on 12-4-2017 by Xenogears because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:04 PM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
Frankly if a religion doesn't tell you that it's wrong to rape someone then it ain't worth following.
Try being a human being and leave the gods to their own rubbish if that's the way they want you thinking.


So loving they neighbor as thyself promotes rape?*puts on willie wonka costume* please do explain



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: SprocketUK
Frankly if a religion doesn't tell you that it's wrong to rape someone then it ain't worth following.
Try being a human being and leave the gods to their own rubbish if that's the way they want you thinking.


So loving they neighbor as thyself promotes rape?*puts on willie wonka costume* please do explain


Depends. Age of consent wasn't a thing in that time, a teenager adult relation was viewed as fine, that is no longer the case, it is now viewed as rape.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

DUh. "adam,and eve" were the first mating pair o f humans. had to start somewhere right? Did these humans evolve from apes? prolly but what makes you think God didnt evolve man instead? His time scale is SO far removed from ours its not even measurable most likely.

Creation is and was a way to explain the science to people who could not grasp it. its filled with metaphores.

and dividing the age of the earth into 6(God rested on the 7th remember) will give you a timeframe for one of Gods actual days to him in his timescale(estimated of course)

God is a Scientist and our creator as well.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

For some people belieif trumps science and education, Christians can be just as barbaric and backwards as muslims they just cannot see it.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:14 PM
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a reply to: Xenogears

And here we go back to respecting the laws of the lands you live in. Once again disproves the assertion of promoting rape.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:16 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Xenogears

For some people belieif trumps science and education, Christians can be just as barbaric and backwards as muslims they just cannot see it.


Not if they are living the commands Jesus gave them Before he departed. WHat you are talking about are hypocrites.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Religious people are hypocrites, all of them



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:26 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: yuppa

PEOPLE are hypocrites, all of them
FIXED that for ya.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:29 PM
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originally posted by: starwarsisreal
a reply to: trollz

How come the boyfriend didn't come to her aid?



Lets just say that weakness is a great facilitator.

Now in america probablitity is very high that you would get that ass shot to death before the cops even got there.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:35 PM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: Idreamofme

2 responses that are already mud-pit worthy. This is going to be a goodun


Nah, I'm out. I'll leave the Muslim bashing circle jerk to the usual suspects who are soon to appear here.


Except you are the only one mentioning Muslims.


You and I know very well migrants=Muslims on ATS.

Dont insult us both by pretending otherwise.


An apologist pure and simple...

Not every migrant is either Muslim or evil yet before YOU know the truth you apologise on their behalf...

Seriously, you are even more annoying that the people you protest against...

At least I wait before I make a judgement...

Like it or not many migrants of which many are Muslim use Islam as as an excuse as to why its OK to do this, in this case I have no clue but you blanket defenders are a blight on innocent people.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Mclaneinc

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: Idreamofme

2 responses that are already mud-pit worthy. This is going to be a goodun


Nah, I'm out. I'll leave the Muslim bashing circle jerk to the usual suspects who are soon to appear here.


Except you are the only one mentioning Muslims.


You and I know very well migrants=Muslims on ATS.

Dont insult us both by pretending otherwise.


An apologist pure and simple...

Not every migrant is either Muslim or evil yet before YOU know the truth you apologise on their behalf...

Seriously, you are even more annoying that the people you protest against...

At least I wait before I make a judgement...

Like it or not many migrants of which many are Muslim use Islam as as an excuse as to why its OK to do this, in this case I have no clue but you blanket defenders are a blight on innocent people.





So you are not anti Muslim you are anti immigration is that right?



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: yuppa

PEOPLE are hypocrites, all of them
FIXED that for ya.




That we can agree on , religious folk have simply made it an art form.
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posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:51 PM
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I need to do a follow up here, do any of you apologists realise just how many attacks are totally suppressed by usual media and the poor victims labelled as almost prostitutes so it makes the new culture feel ok..do you really?

I'm sorry but much of Africa is as Muslim as it is Christian but look who is the oppressed minority here, NOT the Muslims, its the very radicalised Muslims who do 99% of these attacks often using the court to claim 'cultural differences' as a reason and people STILL BUY IT...

Forcing yourself on a woman or child is the same the world over, its wrong and these people including other paedophiles know it but use any excuse to avoid jail. The fact that Pakistan looks after these people isn't an claim its ok, its choosing to hide rapists based upon Religious grounds.

I'm NOT against Muslims, read about me to realise why but Radicals are as much the scum of the world as there can be, they are not Muslims, they are a nasty little cult off spring of the already (as with many regions) faith...

Could religiously uneducated people please stop supporting people based upon the victim mentality, you basically make you look daft and give ground for these scum to carry on....Yes, you really do help them..

Grow up, do the research, wait till you know who is involved and stop following others before you understand the issues..

I see so many young people making the same daft silly mistakes before they even bother to do any research...Do it, you owe yourself to understand fully. Too many folks play the right left game, play the middle game and research then choose a path, don't do it because its 'popular'.



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Mclaneinc

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: Idreamofme

2 responses that are already mud-pit worthy. This is going to be a goodun


Nah, I'm out. I'll leave the Muslim bashing circle jerk to the usual suspects who are soon to appear here.


Except you are the only one mentioning Muslims.


You and I know very well migrants=Muslims on ATS.

Dont insult us both by pretending otherwise.


An apologist pure and simple...

Not every migrant is either Muslim or evil yet before YOU know the truth you apologise on their behalf...

Seriously, you are even more annoying that the people you protest against...

At least I wait before I make a judgement...

Like it or not many migrants of which many are Muslim use Islam as as an excuse as to why its OK to do this, in this case I have no clue but you blanket defenders are a blight on innocent people.





So you are not anti Muslim you are anti immigration is that right?


Did you bother to really read the post.....Seriously...Obviously NO

This is the part of ATS I hate, people who fail to understand a post before they have even digested it...

Edit:

Read about me BEFORE you post...

Am I anti immigration NO, am in favour of open borders NO....

Look at Germany, Look at France, open borders have caused the non Politicians NOTHING but pain because no one bothered to vet a single person and Radicals took total advantage of that and that is a FACT, ignore it if you like but its a cast iron fact. and remember I use the word Radicals, not ordinary Muslims, radicals.....

If you have no clue as to the difference then basically don't bother replying!!!
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edit on 12-4-2017 by Mclaneinc because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2017 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: Mclaneinc

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Mclaneinc

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

originally posted by: 3danimator2014

originally posted by: Idreamofme
a reply to: Idreamofme

2 responses that are already mud-pit worthy. This is going to be a goodun


Nah, I'm out. I'll leave the Muslim bashing circle jerk to the usual suspects who are soon to appear here. [/qu

Except you are the only one mentioning Muslims.


You and I know very well migrants=Muslims on ATS.

Dont insult us both by pretending otherwise.


An apologist pure and simple...

Not every migrant is either Muslim or evil yet before YOU know the truth you apologise on their behalf...

Seriously, you are even more annoying that the people you protest against...

At least I wait before I make a judgement...

Like it or not many migrants of which many are Muslim use Islam as as an excuse as to why its OK to do this, in this case I have no clue but you blanket defenders are a blight on innocent people.





So you are not anti Muslim you are anti immigration is that right?


Did you bother to really read the post.....Seriously...Obviously NO

This is the part of ATS I hate, people who fail to understand a post before they have even digested it...

Edit:

Read about me BEFORE you post...

Am I anti immigration NO, am in favour of open borders NO....

Look at Germany, Look at France, open borders have caused the non Politicians NOTHING but pain because no one bothered to vet a single person and Radicals took total advantage of that and that is a FACT, ignore it if you like but its a cast iron fact. and remember I use the word Radicals, not ordinary Muslims, radicals.....

If you have no clue as to the difference then basically don't bother replying!!!






Oh FFS settle down, the post I responded to was not clear . The post after was much clearer.




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