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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: amazing
Although you make some great points, I think you put too much in there and there's on danger.

What about real Social Justice Warriors with a real issue? Meaning, what if your child was killed unjustly by a cop? And you don't want to be dumped into a black lives matter label/group, but you still want to fight for justice and and tell people that your son's life mattered? Also rape culture feminism etc. The only danger or issue with what you said is that anyone who's really trying to do the right thing is lumped into the same groups by you?


SJW's are the code word for black people who protest an injustice, and is meant to make them sound like wild animals with no self-control....all you need to do is go back into the ATS posts, and read what is said about them.


SJWs are the code word for blacks?! Trigger me racist...Social Justice is another term for Political Correctness, formerly known as Censorship. And like politics, its from the top, not a groundswell of, by and for the people.

The book burnings begin out back at dusk...


It used to be that Social Justice was code for fighting for actual Social Justice. Think Ghandi or Martin Luther King or Mother Theresa or Susan B Anthony and on and on and on. It's a real thing, fighting for social Justice. Political Correctness is code for not wanting to have any manners. I don't walk around and call people retards. Does that make me politically correct or does that make me a guy with manners and social etiquette.

Agreed, but hijacked nowadays by the PTB, the same way foreign protest movements are hijacked by outside influences to start revolutions to topple unfavorable regimes.




posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Agreed.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: Shamrock6

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: jimmyx
SJW's are the code word for black people who protest an injustice, and is meant to make them sound like wild animals with no self-control....all you need to do is go back into the ATS posts, and read what is said about them.

Actually SJW is code for virtue signaling, oppression Olympic playing, green haired, tight pant, Starbucks swilling, mental midgets...

Typically do their SJW'ing from their parents basement in between visits to pornhub.com...


Oh okay. I just read and article on Virtue Signalling and Christians. How Christians are using virtue signalling to get more people into the church.


They do, but let's not pretend that the term SJW hasn't shifted in the last few years and try and deflect away from that, shall we?

It used to be a term for progressives and their pushing for, not surprising anybody, social justice. But over the last few years when the "legalize weed and be cool to everybody" crowd was drowned out by the smaller yet infinitely more forceful crowd trumpeting about wage gaps and microaggressions and a litany of other crap they made up, SJW got hijacked.

Pretending that's not the reality of the situation today isn't going to change it. Saying Christians virtue signal to get people to join the Church isn't going to change it. Just like there are some legitimate Christians that aren't virtue signalling, there are some social justice warriors that aren't pulling things out of their ass to protest about. But, again, that doesn't change anything.


Sure it changes things. You have to speak your truth. The problem is that everyone that tries to do something good these days is seemingly lumped into a social justice group. We're all stereotyping and being stereotyped. The way to break out of that is stop with all htese phone labels. One example is BLM. If I protest one legitimate killing of a black person by a cop, that should stand on it's own and I shouldn't be lumped into a larger BLM protest, but I will be. Further if 1 person burns a store during a BLM protest, the other peaceful good meaning 20 members will be denegrated and the whole protest will be negated. Where's the sense in any of that?



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Good read. I'd just like to add something about the left and their complete and utter hatred and intolerance for Christians and non liberal white people. They seem to only hate white Christians, because the majority of them are republicans/non-libs. They never say a WORD about the millions of black/mexican/asian etc Christians in the U.S. and around the world. Their racism is so deep that they assume all minorities are bleeding heart liberals. They like to label black republicans as "uncle tom". It goes on and on and on.

Just thought I would point out that completely hypocritical nonsense. The left is the most hateful group of people in the U.S. Their hate is getting close to the same amount of hate the extremist Muslims have against gays and women all around the world.
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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Good read. I'd just like to add something about the left and their complete and utter hatred and intolerance for Christians and non liberal white people. They seem to only hate white Christians, because the majority of them are republicans/non-libs. They never say a WORD about the millions of black/mexican/asian etc Christians in the U.S. and around the world. Their racism is so deep that they assume all minorities are bleeding heart liberals. They like to label black republicans as "uncle tom". It goes on and on and on.

Just thought I would point out that completely hypocritical nonsense. The left is the most hateful group of people in the U.S. Their hate is getting close to the same amount of hate the extremist Muslims have against gays and women all around the world.


Um you missed the other half. Republicans are just as hateful as liberals. I'm an independent. I have a lot of liberal views but also many conservative views like the right to own guns, less taxes, smaller government and others.

You need to remember that you only think that because the radio and TV and internet your watching and listening to tells you that all liberals are hateful. If you were to suddently switch to Bill Maher, Huffpost and MSNBC you'd see a whole different side. Or...do as I do turn off the news and the only hate I see these days is here on ATS.

I have liberal and conservative students in the same class 6 days a week and non of them hate each other, nor care about their political affiliation, nor whine or cry or try to enact social justice in my classes or political correctness from me. It's all made up and you've bought it hook line and sinker. What you see on tv is not reality.

Reality is that nobody cares about any of this crap. We're/you're only outrages because media tells you to be. You only think liberals are hateful because media tells you to think that. I've worked in dozens of jobs in all levels from dishwasher to manager in multiple industries from resteraunt to Self Defense to education and telecommunications and been in the Army and seriously...The only time political affiliation ever came up was to rile or joke with someone if we knew they voted for the losing candidate party. Like giving someone crap when they rooted for the wrong team in the Superbowl


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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:40 PM
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You don't seem to understand what Socialism is



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: amazing

I don't need the news to tell me lefties are hateful. I see it every single day in my own life in one form or another. Whether it's family or people on the streets or on social media. It's a giant Trump-hating, Trump supporter hating, white people hating, white Christian hating circle jerk that seems to be never-ending.
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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Relativism requires one to hold standards to some that he wouldn't hold to others, resulting in the sexist and racist mess we find among those who advocate for social justice.


But we all want social justice to a degree. It's all a matter of degrees and if it's happening to you. If we saw someone murdered on the street, we'd want justice. If we saw someone raped on the street we'd want justice. If we saw a guy grab a woman's ass on the street we might want social Justice, definitely the woman and her family members would. Would you?


What is social justice? Wanting justice for an entire group, a collective.

Your examples are not that. They are for individual justice on a case by case basis and only after a crime has been committed.

Which I am all for.



If we saw someone murdered on the street, we'd want justice. 


And hopefully justice would be done, by making the murderer pay.

The social justice response would be to condemn everyone that walks, talks, acts like the murderer and require they all fix what's wrong with themselves.

Which is never clearly defined, hence the terms rape culture (with harsh sentences for rape, and even being accused of rape can ruin your livelihood) and white privilege (doesn't describe what the problem is and even SJW's cannot define what the term means)

The justice system in America and most of the west is the best in the world.

How to improve on that? Dont.
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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: amazing

I don't need the news to tell me lefties are hateful. I see it every single day in my own life in one form or another. Whether it's family or people on the streets or on social media. It's a giant Trump-hating Trump, supporter hating, white people hating, white Christian hating circle jerk that seems to be never-ending.


Weird. Where do you live? I live in Vegas and this stuff never comes up. It comes up in my Facebook feed but that's just because the brainwashed idiot feel the need to repost and share sayings that insult "the other team" LOL

I've lived in Maryland, Oregon, Washington, West Virginia, DC, Pennsylvania, Virginia and spent lot's of time in California, Florida, Arizona, Utah etc and never did this ever come up. I think you need to turn off facebook and get some better friends.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: rockintitz

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Relativism requires one to hold standards to some that he wouldn't hold to others, resulting in the sexist and racist mess we find among those who advocate for social justice.


But we all want social justice to a degree. It's all a matter of degrees and if it's happening to you. If we saw someone murdered on the street, we'd want justice. If we saw someone raped on the street we'd want justice. If we saw a guy grab a woman's ass on the street we might want social Justice, definitely the woman and her family members would. Would you?


What is social justice? Wanting justice for an entire group, a collective.

Your examples are not that. They are for individual justice on a case by case basis and only after a crime has been committed.

Which I am all for.



If we saw someone murdered on the street, we'd want justice. 


And hopefully justice would be done, by making the murderer pay.

The social justice response would be to condemn everyone that walks, talks, acts like the murderer and require they all fix what's wrong with themselves.

The justice system in America and most of the west is the best in the world.

How to improve on that? Dont.


The problem is that people get left out or get shafted by the system, government all the time. Cops get away with murder, Women and minorities get discriminated against, LGBTQ people get harrased, people with disabilities get a raw deal from people. Fighting for those people and better laws and changes in policy etc are what social justice Warriors do. For real. Whiners and people that stereotype whole groups are not social Justice warrirors.. they're just jerks, small minded, close minded people. but they aren't real social Justice wArriors. Martin Luther king jr would be turning over in his grave



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: amazing

Colorado. I'm in the Springs. There are TONS of Christian haters here. It used to be a very Christian conservative city, not so much anymore. As much as I am fine with legal weed, it sure brought a ton of trendy SJW hateful liberals here.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:50 PM
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All protest groups from anti war to feminists get taken over by communists who are continually on the lookout. They have the professional organization and funding to do it. If you take part after witnessing the communists bullhorn their way to the top then you are nothing more than a sheeple with anti American tendencies on your way to becoming an outright traitor.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Good read. I'd just like to add something about the left and their complete and utter hatred and intolerance for Christians and non liberal white people. They seem to only hate white Christians, because the majority of them are republicans/non-libs. They never say a WORD about the millions of black/mexican/asian etc Christians in the U.S. and around the world. Their racism is so deep that they assume all minorities are bleeding heart liberals. They like to label black republicans as "uncle tom". It goes on and on and on.

Just thought I would point out that completely hypocritical nonsense. The left is the most hateful group of people in the U.S. Their hate is getting close to the same amount of hate the extremist Muslims have against gays and women all around the world.


Um you missed the other half. Republicans are just as hateful as liberals. I'm an independent. I have a lot of liberal views but also many conservative views like the right to own guns, less taxes, smaller government and others.

You need to remember that you only think that because the radio and TV and internet your watching and listening to tells you that all liberals are hateful. If you were to suddently switch to Bill Maher, Huffpost and MSNBC you'd see a whole different side. Or...do as I do turn off the news and the only hate I see these days is here on ATS.

I have liberal and conservative students in the same class 6 days a week and non of them hate each other, nor care about their political affiliation, nor whine or cry or try to enact social justice in my classes or political correctness from me. It's all made up and you've bought it hook line and sinker. What you see on tv is not reality.

Reality is that nobody cares about any of this crap. We're/you're only outrages because media tells you to be. You only think liberals are hateful because media tells you to think that. I've worked in dozens of jobs in all levels from dishwasher to manager in multiple industries from resteraunt to Self Defense to education and telecommunications and been in the Army and seriously...The only time political affiliation ever came up was to rile or joke with someone if we knew they voted for the losing candidate party. Like giving someone crap when they rooted for the wrong team in the Superbowl



I don't think there is any definition for "Liberal" or "Conservative" anymore. They are up for whatever definition anyone wants to throw in.

I believe they started by the meanings of "Liberal use of government" vs. "Conservative use of goverment". But these days they mean a whole platform of many, many subjects which no one person aligns with.

In the old days, you stating that you are for small goverment would make you a conservative.

That's why I am independent, because I do not align with what seems like the multi-subject list of either side (even though those multi-subject lists vary from person to person).

I think we should just drop the terms as they do nothing but cause confusion. I challenge the community here to define these terms in a way that everyone agrees with (not seriously though because it can't be done). Many people though just have to label themselves so that they belong somewhere.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
a reply to: amazing

Colorado. I'm in the Springs. There are TONS of Christian haters here. It used to be a very Christian conservative city, not so much anymore. As much as I am fine with legal weed, it sure brought a ton of trendy SJW hateful liberals here.


I still don't think it's as bad as you think. I've got Christian Students mingled in with athiests and die hard trump supporters mixed in with die hard Hillary supporters in my business and it never comes up and there's never any animosity between them in real life.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: jimmyx

originally posted by: amazing
Although you make some great points, I think you put too much in there and there's on danger.

What about real Social Justice Warriors with a real issue? Meaning, what if your child was killed unjustly by a cop? And you don't want to be dumped into a black lives matter label/group, but you still want to fight for justice and and tell people that your son's life mattered? Also rape culture feminism etc. The only danger or issue with what you said is that anyone who's really trying to do the right thing is lumped into the same groups by you?


SJW's are the code word for black people who protest an injustice, and is meant to make them sound like wild animals with no self-control....all you need to do is go back into the ATS posts, and read what is said about them.


Either you are lying, or you pulled that out of your ass.

"SJW" was not coined for "black people who protest an injustice".



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 05:03 PM
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a reply to: amazing


Cops get away with murder, Women and minorities get discriminated against, LGBTQ people get harrased, people with disabilities get a raw deal from people. Fighting for those people and better laws and changes in policy etc are what social justice Warriors do


Civilians get away with murder. Everyone gets discriminated against. Everyone gets harassed. Everyone has gotten the raw end of the deal from someone else. We're all taxpayers right?


The moment the fight for justice stops seeing everyone as equal is when it stops being justice.

Give me a law, or policy, or anything structural in the justice system that is racist, or sexist, or homophobic or unequal in any way and I am against it. Most reasonable people would be.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: TinfoilTP

WTF?


Communist taking over Liberalized marches is ignorant lunacy, did you know the Women's march told anarchist not to show up because they didn't want to be associated with "Violence"?

your notion that "Paid communist" take over liberals matches just proves you know nothing about actual communism



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: amazing




But we all want social justice to a degree. It's all a matter of degrees and if it's happening to you. If we saw someone murdered on the street, we'd want justice. If we saw someone raped on the street we'd want justice. If we saw a guy grab a woman's ass on the street we might want social Justice, definitely the woman and her family members would. Would you?


Justice is one thing, social justice is another.

In practice, social justice is about justice for groups (whether they be racial, sexual, gendered, immigrants, the poor, etc.), without care for the justice of individuals. Look at the narrative against "the privileged", for instance. Some people are considered marginalized, discriminated against, privileged, underprivileged, because of what group they are a member of, not whether they can accurately be described that way.

This leads to a whole host of absurdities, for instance that straight white males are privileged, or that black women are marginalized, when it would be impossible to pass a white homeless man and call him privileged, or Oprah and call her marginalized. The point is, justice is served on an individual basis.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 05:33 PM
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It's just a lot of generalisations about almost incomprehensibly complex issues. I appreciate it's impossible to say it all in a few paragraphs but it just comes off as another rant against the left with a bunch of strawmen thrown in. It's the same thing everyday here.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I think the problem here is that many groups who are NOT social justice warriors in the conventional sense get lumped in with people who actually just want justice and equality. The Far Left Uber-Progressives are NOT SJWs as they do not want equality but superiority and want their rights to trump the rights of all others.

I am socially liberal and fiscally conservative and am labeled a sellout by the far left and the far right- and also get grouped in with either depending on who I'm arguing with. The truth is that most people fall somewhere in the middle of the political spectrum. It is the zealots who push too far on both sides that make everyone look bad, and those that lean more toward one side or the other are equally guilty of grouping those on the opposite side with the zealots. It's aggravating!




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