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originally posted by: scojak
Let me answer your question by posing another - Would you feel safer if there was no list at all and financial institutions could lend to terrorists? I don't think anyone could answer that with a "yes".
The crock is that you feel proactivity that isn't perfect is better than inactivity.
originally posted by: TinySickTearsi would feel equally safe without the list.
see i dont believe that banks would be lending to terrorists of that list did not exist.
clearly it is not a very efficient list of non terrorists are on it
But he shares a first name (with a different spelling), last name and middle initial with a financier of a Pakistani terror group.
originally posted by: TinySickTears
originally posted by: Tucket
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Tucket
yeah...no bog deal
who cares about that wire transfer that will be held for a year....just get a name change
The idea is change your name beFORE you do the wire transfer...tonto
i dont think a citizen of this country should have to change their name so they can get a loan.
thats just me though
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: scojak
im not qualified to believe something?
strange
im pretty sure i am qualified to believe anything i want.
as are you
originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: scojak
What a muppet. This database (The No Fly List) has been around for how long now? And they've outright prevented how many events?
Last time I checked, none, because no one's tried anything. On the other hand, we have plenty of regular joes making flights a PITA for everybody else.
Enjoy your overpriced facsimile of "freedom".
The SDN is essentially a financial no-fly list that cuts people off from U.S. banks
Muhammed Ali Khan tried to do one of the most boring, responsible things an American taxpayer can do: set up a government-guaranteed retirement savings account.
I help other people as much as I can and I wont be paid for that, my reward is inside my soul and that's much more valuable than mere money, and gives me pleasure beyond words. And no-one can take those kinds of rewards from me, no matter how much money they have.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: doobydoll
You have found a kind of "peace" that works for you..but in reality your soul has been crushed and will stay that way.
It is a way of survival..but in no way is it victory.
I help those such as yourselves..but true victory requires the removal of that which CAN crush the soul..that is where the REAL PEACE will be found.
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: doobydoll
Once I had a bunch of stuff and money and went to work every day to get more. The biggest worry I had was one day coming home and finding it all gone.
When that finally happened it was a giant weight off my shoulders. We are not measured by what we acquire, as you so beautifully said.
originally posted by: ParasuvO
a reply to: doobydoll
You have found a kind of "peace" that works for you..but in reality your soul has been crushed and will stay that way.
It is a way of survival..but in no way is it victory.
I help those such as yourselves..but true victory requires the removal of that which CAN crush the soul..that is where the REAL PEACE will be found.
originally posted by: doobydoll
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: doobydoll
Once I had a bunch of stuff and money and went to work every day to get more. The biggest worry I had was one day coming home and finding it all gone.
When that finally happened it was a giant weight off my shoulders. We are not measured by what we acquire, as you so beautifully said.
Yes. It wasn't until after I lost everything that I realised that trying to hang on to possessions was more painful than letting go. The misery was lifted from me and the stress and worry went with it. It felt like being unshackled. I felt free.
People don't understand until they go there. They're still trapped in it.
originally posted by: scojak
The trouble this caused him was relatively minor ― after he got over the shock of seeing a terrorism flag on his credit report, he spent a few hours navigating customer service lines with the Treasury Department and the two credit bureaus. He got his retirement account set up and his credit reports cleared after providing some personal information to show that he was not the man who had financially supported the 2008 Mumbai attacks.
The title of the article need to be changed to, "Your Financial Life Could Be Minorly Inconvenienced If Your Name Is On This Massive Government List". Unfortunately clickbait is king in today's media.
ETA: ALl this talk of name change, yet it would take significantly longer and a great deal more effort to change your name than to just clear up the confusion caused by this list.
originally posted by: intrptr
originally posted by: doobydoll
originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: doobydoll
Once I had a bunch of stuff and money and went to work every day to get more. The biggest worry I had was one day coming home and finding it all gone.
When that finally happened it was a giant weight off my shoulders. We are not measured by what we acquire, as you so beautifully said.
Yes. It wasn't until after I lost everything that I realised that trying to hang on to possessions was more painful than letting go. The misery was lifted from me and the stress and worry went with it. It felt like being unshackled. I felt free.
People don't understand until they go there. They're still trapped in it.
Some are so embedded in their acquired wealth that when its threatened, it feels like dying.
Thats some powerful conditioning. And you're right, they are so programmed to it, they don't realize how much so until they are faced with losing it.
Some people never have to go there, their assets secure right up until the day they die. They never learn the simplest lesson in life.