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Since Trump is a neocon now what?

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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 12:53 PM
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Naw, Trump just has Ego problems, when he heard Clinton say she would have bombed Syria because she is not chicken, she baited him to do what she wanted. Trump is not that smart, his desire to not be looked at negatively made him act too fast and listen to improper evidence. Bush got talked into this in Iraq too.

It is always possible that Assad or his air-force authorized this, but I am really skeptical about that happening. I think this was done by a different group to rally sentiment against Assad and Russia.

This event should have been researched better before they bombed that air base.

How many people were killed by debris from the shot down Tomahawks or by the missle defense system used to destroy a lot of them? Who do we put the blame on for those deaths, Syria has a right to defend itself from an unauthorized breach by the US. Any deaths from the shooting down of the Tomahawks is to be blamed on the USA. I bet we will not see anything about that here.




posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: interupt42




On a good note it appears that there are less political cheerleaders that voted for trump than those that supported Hillary. I'm pleasantly surprised at the number of pro Trump individuals coming out and calling WHAT APPEARS to be a turd a turd.


I cannot speak for all Trump supporters, but people I personally know, myself included, voted for Trump because he was against the exact thing which he just did.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 12:57 PM
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originally posted by: RomeByFire
I can't believe people voted for Trump lol.

I can't believe people actually thought Hillary was a better alternative...

Trump is still the most liberal republican president ever. For gay rights and against the Iraq war from day one.

Do you all not realize that Trump has access to information the rest of us don't have access to? Something is definitely going on here under the surface. The democrats claimed to have struck a deal with Assad in 2014 and removed 100% of the chemical weapons.

Rewind back to the fall of 2013, when the Obama administration was working with Syrian and Russian leaders to ensure that Assad's stockpile of chemical weapons would be turned over and destroyed. A deal was reached, and the Obama administration and fellow Democrats applauded the achievement. The agreement was struck a year after former President Barack Obama drew his now infamous "red line" in August 2012, when he threatened military action against Assad if he used chemical weapons. For several years, Democratic lawmakers and Obama administration officials touted that Syria turned over "100 percent" of its chemical weapon stockpile.

Source

Yet these weapons keep finding their way into the lungs of innocent people...
One has to wonder where these weapons are coming from and if in fact it is the Syrian government is using them on it's own people. Fully knowing it will enrage the majority of the west.
This whole thing is fishy...
The Syrian government has no reason to use such weapons fully knowing the outcome would be a new effort from the west to remove him.

Just a thought...
Hitting a stockpile of these weapons with a missile/bomb in a urban area would be just as bad as detonating it.
Now remind me again what alphabet agency is largely in charge of our drone program?
The CIA operates the drone program almost autonomously only relying on the US Air Force for logistics and pilots. Now take into account the soft coup that appears to being under way in America. One can't help but wonder if this attack was orchestrated to simply stir the pot.
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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:01 PM
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originally posted by: TinfoilTP
Nope, responding to a crime against humanity does not make one a Neocon. Someone who allows a crime against humanity to go unchecked is something very bad though.

It is all very clear cut and simple.

Putin is on the side of genocide. Bad, very bad.
Trump has opposed genocide. Good, very good.


People like you should not be allowed to participate in any decision making that may impact anyone's life. anywhere. ever.

Hope you're not a cop!



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

Really? Who do you think will blink first? The guy with oil interests in Syria or the other guy who is broke. So we are told.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:08 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: starwarsisreal

I thought it was funny that just before news of Trumps attacks on Syria, Hillary made headlines saying we should attack Syria.


Yeah and also McCain's secret visit to the Kurdish-held region of Syria to meet with US military officials just few weeks a go.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:12 PM
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IF Trump is a neocon then Bill Clinton and Barrak Obama are neocons

Since Trump did nothing different from either of those two.

Be nice if people actually used the term correctly.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:14 PM
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originally posted by: Perfectenemy
Nice fake outrage. Babies and children died through a gas attack what monster did this? Well it was Assad we have the evidence for that and will show it to you in the next few days. Bomb this bastard immediately. Trump launches one surgical strikes and does everything in his power to avoid casualties and he is still painted as the bad guy. You people are pathetic.

There is no indication that this is going to escalate any further. They will work this out and hopefully find a peaceful solution to this mess. Spreading fear and doom porn accomplishes nothing.



what if the evidence is a cartoon drawing of a bomb and a statement of some head chopping, heart eating "moderate" terrorist? Can Trump unbomb Syria?



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Perfectenemy

Really? Who do you think will blink first? The guy with oil interests in Syria or the other guy who is broke. So we are told.



Why worry about something that might happen? The good people outnumber the evil ones but are you going to stand up when push comes to shove? All we can do is discuss these things and trust the people we elected. Trump didn't anihilate Syria and that's good enough for me. Now we play the waiting game and that's all we can do.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: whatsecret
a reply to: interupt42




On a good note it appears that there are less political cheerleaders that voted for trump than those that supported Hillary. I'm pleasantly surprised at the number of pro Trump individuals coming out and calling WHAT APPEARS to be a turd a turd.


I cannot speak for all Trump supporters, but people I personally know, myself included, voted for Trump because he was against the exact thing which he just did.


Understood. However, its good to see people actually standing up and questing things versus refusing to go against their party or their decision no matter what. Its that mentality that has ruined this country. People care about the party more than this country or care more about being right than this country. We need more of that and less political blinded thought processes.



Same here, even though I didn't vote for him I was happy that he won over Hillary for the same reason , besides the additional Hillary scandals ,coincidences and worthless history as a politician she has had. Also another appeal of trump was that the establishment didn't appear to like him. Having the establishment praise him on this ,does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

I said from the beginning the worst that Trump could become is Hillary. Sadly it looks like he may be transforming towards that.
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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm not worried. When Trump got elected I accepted that we are screwed. He doesn't know what he is doing. I would have respected a bomb dropped on the palace. At least it would have been some payoff.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:33 PM
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Trump has responded to a serious breach by Syria , they were supposed to have given up all of the chemical weapon stockpiles but have again demonstrated that was a lie.

Trump had no choice but to act.



So what happens if it turns out those stockpiles did not belong to the Assad regime ?

What happens if it turns out those stockpiles actually belong to the isis rebels (which is what Syria just proclaimed in today's emergency UN security council meeting). Syria stated today that the rebels have stockpiles all over the country.

What if Syria is telling the truth ?



No matter which way you look at it, Trump absolutely should not have jumped the gun as quickly as he did.

The guy may very well have just started something that's going to turn into a nightmare for the rest of us.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:38 PM
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I said from the beginning the worst that Trump could become is Hillary. Sadly it looks like he may be transforming towards that.

Yeah the brain transplant was quicker than usual this time..... Unless, something like this is afoot



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:39 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: Perfectenemy

I'm not worried. When Trump got elected I accepted that we are screwed. He doesn't know what he is doing. I would have respected a bomb dropped on the palace. At least it would have been some payoff.



You do know that his palace houses not only military personnel rather service personnel and probably some families too right? Besides you're against bombing an airfield without any casualties but you have no problem killing hundreds of people in Assads palace. This makes no sense sorry.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:44 PM
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a reply to: Perfectenemy

No I don't. I didn't order any bombing and I did not vote for one of the people who did. Nothing about war is fair or compassionate. That's why we don't win anymore. We just enrich companies like Raytheon. Maybe Trump can train the coal miners how to make war machines.

ETA BTW the jobs number for March was 98,000
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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:50 PM
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No matter which way you look at it, Trump absolutely should not have jumped the gun as quickly as he did.

He has details that we don't , couldn't it be that the evidence he's seen compeled him to act ( although Tillerson and Mattis probably advised him to do it)

Trump is a new President , he is being tested.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: starwarsisreal

Perhaps your View of President Trump is a pile of baloney too. Ever think about that?



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 02:06 PM
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a reply to: gortex



He has details that we don't , couldn't it be that the evidence he's seen compeled him to act ( although Tillerson and Mattis probably advised him to do it) Trump is a new President , he is being tested.


I don't know what to believe.

It's also possible that Tillerson and Matthis have their own agendas to fulfill.


The only thing I do know for sure is that I'm not willing to jump on the Assad-did-it train until all evidence shows us otherwise. We've seen this exact same propaganda before that turned out to be just that, BS propaganda.

There's just too many things that make no sense at this point and I won't be surprised one bit that Trump took the bait hook, line, and sinker due to his own ego. It's quite possible that his advisors stroked his ego to get the ball rolling.


At this point, all we have to go on is speculation and assumption... so I prefer to err on the side of caution and not support any kind of "preemptive strike" on anyone.



posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 02:11 PM
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What better circumstances could our enemies have wished for?

Many Americans that previously disagreed with Trump now agree with his action in Syria. (Collusion and corruption? Nah.)

Now at least half of his "anti-establishment/anti-globalist" believers realize he's no different than any other puppet we've had in the WH.

Whatever faction of the Russian power structure that Bannon/Mercer/Prince was working with apparently lost support with Putin.

(Russia is no more internally unified than we are, and is perhaps factionalized even worse.)

Trump has exposed the US in a unilateral (arguably unprovoked) direct attack on a sovereign nation.

The Russians have every right (by international law) to assist their ally Syria in whatever way they choose.

... and arguably, Trump acted illegally (by US law) as Congress had not declared war against Syria.

One thing is sure ... if there is a goddess of chaos ... she's dancing a jig and plucking a harp from hell.


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posted on Apr, 7 2017 @ 02:40 PM
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a reply to: gortex


Ummm...so you believe that the very DAY before the peace summit...that Assad had his forces use gas on civilians...

That right there seems just a little too convenient for me...that right there just doesn't add up...

What makes more sense is those who wanted this play from the get go...would sabotage the summit...with precisely what happened...

That to me is the logical progression of events...hence the not waiting for any kind of verification on the ground or investigation by independent resources...




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