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originally posted by: Indigo5
originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: Indigo5
Assad would have los Russian support as well if he gassed anyone anywhere. The Russians even stated recently that their support was not unconditional.
I think you think too much of Putin.
originally posted by: IAMTAT
Fox reporting one of the 2 US warships has left the area in order to rearm with more cruise missiles.
originally posted by: DazDaKing
Breaking news: www.bbc.co.uk...
"Russia promises to strengthen Syrian air defences following US missiles"
We now have an openly accepted proxy war between the two countries. Furthermore, Russia has suspended the air safety deal with the US. Expect a Russian plane to 'accidentally' shoot down a US aircraft soon.
Yeah don't presume to know what I speak out of, you'd be wrong.
I speak out of maintaining measured , well thought out responses , over knee jerk reactions and bravado
originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: Vector99
Nah, I'm referring to the weapons systems.
You have certainly made yourself very clear in this thread: Go Russia!
It's okay. Everyone should have a hobby and a favorite team to cheer on. Yours is just very obvious is all.
That 'purty' paper was keeping missiles from launching at US jets.
Not so long ago the concepts of 'good terrorists' and 'bad terrorist' were still handy to justify US policy in the area.
originally posted by: AnkhMorpork
originally posted by: DBCowboy
Shepard Smith reporting that Trump wants to build a coalition to fight Syria.
The end game in this involves something that Trump has talked about - safe zones in Syria (ground and air both), amid the obliteration of ISIS in Syria, for the eventual return of the refugees and the long path of reconstruction (using oil reserves..?).
It cannot have taken place without tacit Russian consent and Iranian restraint via Russia.
Therefore they have to be careful not to kill Russians in the process, and to begin to collaborate in the establishment of these safe zones.
This Is the first stage in a softening up of the territory for a limited invasion or incursion by US troops to establish those zones after ISIS falls in Raqqa and elsewhere.
This goes way beyond McCain's version of continuing to arm Syrian rebel forces and who knows who and to where those go..
This is the right and only way forward, but Tillerson better get to Russia and via Russia, Iran ASAP to prevent blowback and some sort of tailspin into ME chaos.
This in my view, is like the center of a knot of interweaving threads, or like the center piece of a global security puzzle that must be solved and that must also lead to a mid-East peace agreement in Israel and Palestine.
As to North Korea there is no military option in that case, only a deal brokered by China, which will see Kim Jung Un lose his nukes in exchange for the lifting of sanctions and the opportunity to join the International community, so strangely trade is also at the heart of it all including the lifting of sanctions on Russia.
It's all interconnected and it will lead to either peace, and security, and global prosperity, or to an ever-widening sphere of chaos and war (for the doom porn people).
I see this as also sending a message to North Korea, to put more pressure on there, but it can't be any more than a bluff because of what that fat bastard can unleash both conventionally and nuke-wise if he felt he was under threat (of his life) or cornered and susceptible to a revolution or overthrow - the North Koreans are starving and really hurting economically after years of sanctions.
This is not an isolated limited strike by any means, but part of a larger puzzle or tapestry.
That's my best analysis of the current situation.
Best regards, and with prayers for peace, security and a lasting mutual prosperity and global ..love,