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Why Kubrick Changed the Ending to THE SHINING

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posted on Apr, 8 2017 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: HeathenJessie
a reply to: Willtell

Yeah, they're really quite different.

I still think it's a great movie, I don't think Kubrick intended to make a faithful adaptation of the book. Changes he made were usually pretty deliberate and have some kind of meaning or purpose. Or maybe he was more careless than people think and prone to making very obvious mistakes. I want to believe the former as opposed to the latter but it's really just personal opinion.

When you think about it, the book works well as it is but would a truly failthful adaptation to film be good? It's a reasonably meaty volume...

I tend to look at Kubrick adaptations to be more a vehicle for something Stanley wants to convey as opposed to trying to convey the message of the author. I suppose we'll never really know, but as film I reckon it works really well and there's enough to make it watchable multiple times.

And if that doesn't quite float your boat...there's always the performance of Nicholson to sweeten the deal, he was awesome in that film.

My only real criticism is the performance of Shelley Duval, I never really liked her very much...to me she'll always be Popeye's goofy girlfriend. Her hysterical flailing and whining towards the end of the film got quite irritating at times.

The thing is that the book had many interesting nuances that Kubrick’s style, imo, would not have been able to handle well.

I like Kubrick but he seems unable to adapt well to nuance.

He is a direct one-dimensional guy.


I agree with you though Duvall was weak, but its all a matter of taste.




posted on Apr, 8 2017 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Sure, it's all good.

Out of interest, what is your favourite Kubrick movie?



posted on Apr, 9 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom

the more i look at the clark the more i think he isnt a normal human being



posted on Apr, 9 2017 @ 09:06 PM
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originally posted by: HeathenJessie
a reply to: Willtell

Sure, it's all good.

Out of interest, what is your favourite Kubrick movie?


This is a no brainer
EYES WIDE SHUT!

I love that movie. I've watched it over 20 times. I've analyzed it for secret messages and meanings and all of that. I think its a classic.

Then Full Metal Jacket is one of the best war movies I've seen not as good as Platoon but close.

And of course the great 20001, Spartacus, the Killing, and Paths of Glory. Kubrick is one of the greatest, imo.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 06:01 AM
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The number 237 also comes up in the movie Scanners.

"Darryl Revok is the rogue leader of the world's 237 Scanners--who are capable of reading minds and inflicting incredible psychic torment--except one, who has been captured by a corporate entity bent on destroying the movement."



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: ColdWisdom>>>> I loved The Shining. Even the remake had a few good parts. The intriguing thing about The Shining was the hidden messages Kubrick put in pointing to the Apollo Moon Landing. Watch that on Youtube. I think I'm in agreement where they say that the film footage of the actual landing was lost and the government had Kubrick stage a re enactment. I always thought they could have done a sequel of the story based on Kubrick's movie. Have Danny as an adult go back to challenge The Overlook to free his dad and the others. King could certainly do it instead of wasting his time with those lame stories he keeps churning out.



posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: Dutchowl
King could certainly do it instead of wasting his time with those lame stories he keeps churning out.


King did a sequel to The Shinning called Doctor Sleep.

And how would he free his dad? He dies in a boiler explosion.




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posted on Apr, 10 2017 @ 12:50 PM
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no mention of the faked moon landing, and Moon Room 237?

How the moon is 237,000 miles form earth?

How the July 4 date in 1921 relates to the US Federal reserve, and Woodrow Wilson, and the gold room theme.

not to mention the note in Jack's hand, and the couple behind him that look just like WW and his wife Edith.

Did I miss something?



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 10:02 AM
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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Dutchowl
King could certainly do it instead of wasting his time with those lame stories he keeps churning out.


King did a sequel to The Shinning called Doctor Sleep.

And how would he free his dad? He dies in a boiler explosion.





I read it, as I have read most of King's other work. I thought it was good...not great as some of King's others works are, but not as bad as some written during his "tired" phase. That's my term...



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 12:51 PM
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a reply to: Riffrafter

I tend to agree. It was good but predictable.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: Dutchowl


The intriguing thing about The Shining was the hidden messages Kubrick put in pointing to the Apollo Moon Landing.


Yea, I'm not so sure about that. I would refer you to the thread I made (linked in my post on the other page) where Kubrick's daughter talks about the moon landing theories.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus


And how would he free his dad? He dies in a boiler explosion.


Somebody didn't read the interview.


Kubrick did away with the boiler explosion in the film. Jack still dies, so we presume, but that was a strong deviation from the book (as you've pointed out).

But a sequel would be awful IMO. Kubrick didn't do sequels for a reason (somebody else directed the 2001 sequel), plus King would probably have had a heart attack if Kubrick tried to continue The Shining.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: ColdWisdom
Kubrick did away with the boiler explosion in the film. Jack still dies, so we presume, but that was a strong deviation from the book (as you've pointed out).


I was pretty sure he was asking why King didn't do a sequel but frankly I don't think he ever read the book to know the Kubrick film is no where near the same.



posted on Apr, 22 2017 @ 12:14 PM
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theres also that bizzare HAL IBM thing



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