Is Syria Gas Attack A False Flag?

Your post was prescient in light of the U.S. bombing of Syria. Scary times.

a reply to: MysticPearl

I have seen by now several videos, and photos of victims being handled by doctors and first responders without proper gear. Including touching the skin of claimed chemical attack victims, yet those touching these victims do not incur chemical burns which is impossible. The globalists wanted to start a conflict, and to attack Assad's regime and supplant it. Now they are using raw emotions on President Trump to force his hand.

Also notice that this "supposed attack" occurred as CNN, and other left-wing media don't want to cover the Susan Rice and rest of Obama's team actions on gathering information on Trump as a Presidential candidate, his team and his family.

This is not a coincidence. This staged attack has too many holes to be true, and it was obviously staged in a hurry. First responders, and even doctors touching victims of a chemical attack without gloves and not getting chemical burns is a clear sign this is nothing but a false flag, and President Trump was made to act on this just like the previous administration and globalists want him to.

a reply to: dragonridr

I think you should really take a look at this story, it might help you understand what's REALLY going on here:

Very important link relating to this thread.

I hope that clears things up for you. Have a good night, thanks for commenting!

Whatever the actual facts are, with regard to the incident that was the stated reason for the cruise missile attack by the US on Syria, will no doubt become a footnote to history, much as the actual facts of the Gulf of Tonkin incident are little more than a footnote to the history of the Vietnam War.

I'm inclined to think that this incident was not a gas attack by the Syrian Air Force but was either an accident of some kind involving gas stored on the ground or an incident precipitated purposely, perhaps in coordination with foreign supporters of the Syrian opposition.

For one thing, both Russia and Syria deny having carried out a gas attack. These incidents are not part of the tactical toolbox used by the Syrian government, which has largely employed aerial bombardment of rebel positions before moving in with ground forces. Gas incidents have been sporadic and nobody has given reason to believe that they form part of a coherent tactical approach to dealing with the rebels. If anything, they would appear to be contraindicated, if for no other reason than terrible publicity caused by them and the danger that they will be used as a pretext for increased intervention by the US/NATO, as has now proven to be the case.

It has been clear for some time that the Syrian government and their Russian ally have had the upper hand in the current conflict. It has long been alleged that the American government has been supporting the rebels in Syria, along with allies among the Arab states, notably Saudi Arabia, which has been accused of shipping Sarin gas to the rebels, as well as Jordan, which is alleged to have bases near the Syrian border for training rebel forces.

It is hard to see how the balance of power in the Syrian Civil War could be altered without direct intervention of the US/NATO, and now that has occurred. Russia has withdrawn from the 2015 memorandum of understanding designed to minimize the risk of in-flight incidents between American and Russian air forces operating over Syria.

In a sense this has rolled the clock back to 2013, when an effort by the Obama administration to secure a UN approved "no fly" zone over Syria, with the extensive bombing of air fields and other support infrastructure that would imply, was vetoed in the Security Council by the Russians.

Regime change in Syria was the stated objective of the then Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. A week ago the current Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson appeared to imply a willingness by the current administration to allow the Syrian people to determine Bashar Al Assad's political future, but now Mr. Tillerson says that Mr. Assad will have to go.

It is clear that if it were up to the United States, Assad would be gone and the hunt would be on for a compliant puppet politician and since Assad is the head of the largest political grouping in the country, a situation like that of Libya would probably ensue in Syria, i.e., a protracted contest between rival militias.

Russia is the only entity that stands in the way of such a grim eventuality.

Much hay will be made by the Trump administration over the alleged use of gas by the Syrian government on its own citizens and very little will be said about shipments of Sarin gas coming from US ally Saudi Arabia to the Syrian rebels for use against Syrian citizens.

For me the bottom line is that the exact nature of this attack is irrelevant and the controversy over it is window dressing for a decision by the Trump administration to continue the policy of the Obama administration in seeking regime change in Syria. If they are successful in getting that, I believe they will continue another policy of the Obama administration, which is to set up a Kurdish client entity on the Iranian border and push on to attempt to topple the government of Iran and to sever sections of western Iran off from the country, thus destroying it as a regional hegemonic power.

"Outrages and atrocities" played up in the press, horrible as they might be, are not the real motivators of American foreign policy and never have been, so their exact nature doesn't really matter much.

a reply to: ipsedixit

Well i have seen all kinds of evidence for an air strike. And we know sarin has to be mixed prior to use. meaning if it was in storage its harmless part of the weaponizing of sarin. So lets say the air strike hit a lab storing the components nothing would happen. But lets say bombs were used that mixes the chemical before it releases it well then people die.

Problem with this false flag nonsense is its impossible there is no way it could have been pulled off. Even if you argue there was no nerve agent and it was faked first the videos show that false. But videos can be faked however injured were shipped to Turkey for treatment cant fake that. Even UN personnel are there checking on the wounded. So now in order to be fake we have to have several countries involved and the UN.

a reply to: dragonridr

The "white helmets" have staged several false attacks, not to mention their connections with ISIS and other terrorist groups like Al Nusra.





It is ironic that the report on this "chemical attack" was made by none other than the white helmets

Noting the fact that the "white helmets" are aligned with ISIS and Al Nusra, it is entirely possible the white helmets did something to these kids in order to stage this false flag.

The fact that many of the first responders, and doctors touched without gloves supposed victims of a chemical attack, and the responders and doctors didn't get burned on the spot it's a clear sign something else happened. But these terrorist groups are pushing the narrative that "it was Assad who did it and it was a chemical attack" when there is no evidence for this claim.

Assad is no saint, but it makes no sense for him and his government to do this.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: dragonridr

The "white helmets" have staged several false attacks, not to mention their connections with ISIS.

It is ironic that the report on this "chemical attack" was made by none other than the white helmets

So where were they? ive seen dozens of videos no white helmets. Were you aware they are volunteer organization?? meaning anyone can join and get training unfortunately for your theory they were not around. They tend not to be in rebel areas mostly Isis areas because thats were they think they are needed. Or possibly who controls them either way doesnt matter when we are discussing this gas attack.


Sad how people are willing to support assad when hes killed 500000 people and caused millions to flee the country,Not to mention causing the biggest humanitarian crises Europe has seen.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: MysticPearl

I have seen by now several videos, and photos of victims being handled by doctors and first responders without proper gear. Including touching the skin of claimed chemical attack victims, yet those touching these victims do not incur chemical burns which is impossible. The globalists wanted to start a conflict, and to attack Assad's regime and supplant it. Now they are using raw emotions on President Trump to force his hand.

Also notice that this "supposed attack" occurred as CNN, and other left-wing media don't want to cover the Susan Rice and rest of Obama's team actions on gathering information on Trump as a Presidential candidate, his team and his family.

This is not a coincidence. This staged attack has too many holes to be true, and it was obviously staged in a hurry. First responders, and even doctors touching victims of a chemical attack without gloves and not getting chemical burns is a clear sign this is nothing but a false flag, and President Trump was made to act

Do you really believe everything in the world happens because of your crappy american pissing contest between left and the right ?

Anyone who doesn't see this as a major false flag is joking themselves.

Seriously, who get's the crap bombed out of them (then the next day planes are flying off the same airfields) and doesn't preach retaliation against the US?

This was no more than a $90 million firework show.

originally posted by: MysticPearl
This article I stumbled across makes some very interesting points.

Merely hours after the alleged chemical weapons attack in Khan Sheikhun, supposedly by the Syrian government, holes are beginning to emerge from opposition sources, discrediting the Al-Qaeda affiliated White Helmets claims.

For one, seen in the above picture, the White Helmets are handling the corpses of people without sufficient safety gear, most particularly with the masks mostly used , as well as no gloves. Although this may seem insignificant, understanding the nature of sarin gas that the opposition claim was used, only opens questions.

Within seconds of exposure to sarin, the affects of the gas begins to target the muscle and nervous system. There is an almost immediate release of the bowels and the bladder, and vomiting is induced. When sarin is used in a concentrated area, it has the likelihood of killing thousands of people. Yet, such a dangerous gas, and the White Helmets are treating bodies with little concern to their exposed skin. This has to raise questions.

Here's the pic.

I do find that extremely odd. Looking thru other rescue pictures I notice the same. Inadequate clothing/protection from sarin gas.

It is known that about 250 people from Majdal and Khattab were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists last week. Local sources have claimed that many of those dead from the chemical weapons were those from Majdal and Khattab.

This would suggest that on the eve of upcoming peace negotiations, terrorist forces have once again created a false flag scenario. This bares resemblance to the Ghouta chemical weapons attack in 2013 where the Syrian Army was accused of using the weapons of mass destruction on the day that United Nations Weapon’s Inspectors arrived in Damascus.

This is also interesting. Reminds me of British tv reporting the collapse of WTC7 before it happened.

Therefore, it is completely unsurprising that Orient TV has already prepared a “media campaign” to cover the Russian and Syrian airstrikes in Hama countryside against terrorist forces, with the allegations that the airforces have been using chemical weapons. And most telling, there announcement of covering the use of chemical weapons by the Syrian government, hours before this allegation even emerged

Another suggestion Al-Qaeda is involved.

Also, the pick up trucks remain consistent to what local sources have said that many of those dead were kidnapped by Al-Qaeda terrorists from pro-government towns in rural Hama.

This is an important question. The timing of this makes no sense. There would be little advantage.

And this of course begs the question. With the Syrian Army and its allies in a comfortable position in Syria, making advances across the country, and recovering lost points in rural Hama, why would they now resort to using chemical weapons? It is a very simple question with no clear answer. It defies any logic that on the eve of a Syria conference in Brussels and a week before peace negotiations are to resume, that the Syrian government would blatantly use chemical weapons.

This part starts to point towards the relationship between the White Helmets and Al-Qaeda.

Most telling however, is that most recent report shows that the government does not deny striking Khan Sheikhun. Al-Masdar’s Yusha Yuseef was informed by the Syrian Army that the air force targeted a missile factory in Khan Sheikoun, using Russian-manufactured Su-22 fighter jet to carry out the attack. Most importantly, the Su-22’s bombs are unique and cannot be filled with any chemical substances, which is different than bombs dropped from attack helicopters. Yuseef was then told that the Syrian Air Force did not know there were any chemical substances inside the missile factory in Khan Sheikhoun. It remains to be known whether there actually were chemicals in the missile factory targeted by the airstrikes, or whether the terrorist forces used gas on the kidnapped civilians from the pro-government towns and brought them in the lorry trucks to the site of the airstrikes. Whether they were gassed by the militant forces, or the airstrikes caused a chemical weapon factory to explode, the gruesome deaths of children, seen foaming in the mouth because of the gas, lays in the hands of the terrorists.

Therefore, it becomes evident that the area targeted was definitely a terrorist location, where it is known that the White Helmets share operation rooms with terrorist forces like Al-Qaeda as seen after the liberation of eastern Aleppo.

And that's where the rabbit hole gets deeper. The White Helmets, huh? They don't have any connection to the CIA, US and major western players do they? Actually, they do.

The trainer of the White Helmets - and this is very important - is an ex British military mercenary, James Le Mesurier, who was given the OBE in June, 2016 by the British government. If we look at his career, and we look at his connections, he connects back to organizations, private security firms, like Blackwater, now called Academi, who, if we remember, were basically a CIA outreach assassination organization that had millions pumped into them by President Bush, and even by President Obama, who gave them over $250 million to continue in their role as assassination experts for the CIA.

Here

The White Helmets receive funding from UK ($65m via UK Foreign Office), US (US State Dept via USAID $ 23m), Holland ($ 4.5m), Germany ($ 7.87m) and Japan (undisclosed sum from the Intl Cooperation Agency), Denmark (undisclosed sum) – via the Mayday Rescue “foundation” that was set up by the British ex-military trainer of the White Helmets in order to transfer funding to the White Helmets. The White Helmets also receive equipment and supplies from various EU member states.


The White Helmets have been filmed “clearing up” after a Nusra Front execution of a civilian prisoner in Northern Aleppo. Although the official statement from the White Helmets claims they arrived after the execution, the speed with which they appear (in video) immediately after the prisoner has been shot in the head, demonstrates clearly that they were on the scene and did nothing to prevent it.

The leader of the White Helmets, Raed Saleh, was deported from Dulles Airport in the US, April 2016. No real explanation was ever given for this decision. Mark Toner of the US State Department fielded questions from media but did (i) Admit to funding the group with $ 23m and (ii) suggest that Raed Saleh might have “extremist connections”. Raed Saleh has recently been allowed back into the US in September 2016 and spoke at the UN New York with the Dutch Mission. However, no explanation has been given for this reversal of the previous decision to deport Saleh.

a reply to: SeekingAlpha

The airfield is unusable for the foreseeable future. They destroyed the bunkers repair facilities fuel storage and armament bunkers. Meaning they have to rebuild the airfield. if they want anything other than a temporary facility. this also makes it vulnerable to rebel attacks.


PS please someone tell me how that faked babies having seizures who are only couple of months old dieing from a nerve agent. Its really sad that people want to look the other way by claiming its fake.

Listen to this guy at 9:55, omg lol
video was uploaded on Mar 22, 2017

he says

The US runs Al-Qaeda, even if ducking Assad gasses his own people, which is bullsnip, the gas was given by the Saudis, to give to the Al-Nusra front and the reason it killed all the children is because the bomb went off accidentally

a reply to: dragonridr

Sad how people are willing to support assad when hes killed 500000 people and caused millions to flee the country,Not to mention causing the biggest humanitarian crises Europe has seen.

Really? You don't think it's because of the brutal civil war instigated, funded and armed by the west? All in the name of "regime change"?

a reply to: oddnutz

Listen to this guy

Why?

a reply to: MysticPearl

You do know many who report false flags often create false flags?

The lack of gas masks can be easily be explained. Its not like these relief workers were in close proximity, many relief workers were miles away at worst so most of the chemicals would have been irritable not fatal.

The lie that the Syrian government is telling. Google Bhopal chemical disaster and you will see that if this was indeed an "explosion" then many more people would've died. The fact that the missile hit nowhere near a chemical warehouse is telling as well.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I'm still thinking the missile attack was choreographed to surprise XI JinPing when he met with Trump.
The "white helmets" group was code named "tree top" by the CIA years ago and this attack has their signature all over it.
There is some serious correlation going on here that is not "random", they knew ahead of time that 23 missiles would reach the target.

a reply to: dragonridr

The humanitarian crisis you refer to, all the Syrian refugees going to Europe, is the direct result of US bombs destroying homes and infrastructure. The US was doing the bidding of Israeli handlers intent upon destabilizing Syria.

a reply to: Salander

The humanitarian crisis you refer to, all the Syrian refugees going to Europe, is the direct result of US bombs destroying homes and infrastructure.

are you crazy, although i'm sure that the U.S. bombing causes some damage to homes and infrastructure. 95% of the destruction is caused by assad, russia and the rebels.

False flag or not, this Syrian man, who survived the 2013 chemical attack, has a message to the CNN anchor interviewing him. It should be a message that lands for all sides of this argument

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Are you happy your tax dollars are being wasted in Syria? I'm not. What's going on over there is not good for America.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: Winstonian

You do know it was proved in court that the Britam emails were faked. The Daily mail was sued for defamation and lost and was forced to admit they created the documents. So needless to say you using the false information they printed isnt helping your case at all. Oh and Britam is a british company and doesnt have anything to do with the United States.

PS anytime something is put out by info wars and daily mail its probably wrong.

Interesting. I'm curious about this story...do you have any links I could read?