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How much time does it take to excecute and bury 8,500 people? And hide mass graves?

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posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 12:13 AM
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Because killings in Srebrenica of 8,500 Bosnian Muslims started on July 13, 1995 which was documented on Kodak film which was never released, DutchBatter Luitenant Rutten made it. General Couzy mentioned the film on a press conference in Holland which was either on July 23 or July 25 that year, sources differ, the DutchBatters returned that day save to Holland.

Film was overexposed is said by the authorities in the automated developing machine, you maybe now them from the old days, film cartridge goes in on one side photo's come out on the other side, piece of cake, even a monkey can operate it. This happened is said on July 26, 1995

Was the killing still going on? Could in 2 weeks time all 8,500 Muslims have been killed? Burried? Mass graves hided?

The film could have proofed it to the world media. Could perhaps have stopped more bloodshed.

en.wikipedia.org...

PS: I was a drafted soldier in the Dutch Army in 1989/ 1990. I'm proud on that army, but here things most likely went wrong, the so called film overexposure story smells like cover up, has the taste of Newton's apple, its time to come clean, to do the right thing. Film is said to be still in the archives of Dutch Military Inteligence:

nos.nl...

However film could also have been ransom to be paid to the Serbs for to let go and for save return home of the Dutchbatters, Serbs could have seen the photographing, confiscated the film, the rest is the fogg of war, maybe the film never left Bosnia, OK all speculation.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: galien8

I've known that for many years to have mostly been a BS propaganda job.

It's 'close to bedtime' so doing a proper dig for you right now wont work very well.

I'm pretty sure I had bits about it in here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

If not I know you can find it in here:
www.historycommons.org...

To answer the thread title, oh my, I suppose only a proper study on the Nazi death camps would give an insight into the most efficient way to kill that many anyways.
Do you really want that answered?



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

OK maybe they (the 8,500 Muslim men) were or would have been illegal combatants, would have fought as civilians if they would have get a change, convinced or forced, OK war is always dirty, but this was a holocaust of unarmed people, unarmed before and during the siege, correct me if I'm wrong, at least this is what I picked up from the media, I thought never Auschwitz again



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 01:58 AM
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a reply to: galien8

Did it even happen?

I'm confident you'll find reports in that second link that it really didn't.

And I'm confident that the US -backed KLA Muslim drug runner lot did end up doing bonafide "ethnic cleansing" in the year 2000 (note they were Al Qaeda's opium smuggling arm in that region that year; you wont see that mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report).



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 02:02 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah.
Slobodan was a really nice guy. Like Bashar.
Right?



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 02:06 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Quaddafi wasn't 'good people', yet was he the monster your darling MSM painted him to be?

Slobodan wasn't 'good people', yet was he the monster your darling MSM painted him to be?




posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 02:14 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Not my darlings.

But round about 1999 I was communicating with some guys who lived in Serbia. I don't know about Libya.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: Phage

Well you might wanna check out that History Commons link above. You should dig it. Really.

And about Qaddafi:

As far as dictators have ever gone, he's got to be my new favorite. Interesting historical spin on Syria tied to that ultra bizarro history attached to that weirdo. Such a weirdo he was lol

EDIT: here ya go, article format: www.bbc.co.uk...
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posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 02:24 AM
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a reply to: galien8

One method to murder, dig the graves, and bury that many people in a short space of time, would be to have bulldozers dig the grave pits, march the victims to the site and get force them into the pit and machine gun or gas everyone from multiple vantage points along the length of the pit edges...a few bulldozers then infill and cover the dead in the pit.

The whole thing could have been done in a single day.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 03:15 AM
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originally posted by: MysterX

The whole thing could have been done in a single day.



They had a mobile destruction camp with them!? I don't believe it



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 03:36 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Milosevic was the Butcher of the Balkans. A monstrous combination of communism and nationalism, kind of unique.

Unfortunately, for one reason or another, he was supported by a desperate segment of Serbs and did what is now condemned by the majority of them.

The wholesale slaughter incited by him is largely evidenced and witnessed not only by locals, but by Westerners as well.

But as long as you keep your head buried in the sand you will of course be happy not to face the facts.

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posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 03:40 AM
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originally posted by: surnamename57

The wholesale slaughter incited by him is largely evidenced and witnessed not only by locals, but by Westerners as well.



Good point! What does the UN Tribunal say how long the killings took?



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 03:42 AM
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a reply to: MysterX

Yep, with the right gear it could be done in a day.

Rather morbid thought really.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 03:57 AM
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a reply to: surnamename57

I never propped the guy up.

I did just do a solid scan of his Wikie page looking for this "8,500" figure. I didn't find it:
en.wikipedia.org...

Any key portion therein that demonstrates is as a 'mini Hitler' I should be sure to notice?

And did you check out the links I already provided? I'll check out yours!
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posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 04:26 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Not 8500. At a rough estimate, it is about 8000.

Not interested in your links. There is a saying in the Balkans that goes, I'm showing you where the wolf is, you are showing me the traces.
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posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 04:31 AM
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originally posted by: galien8

originally posted by: surnamename57

The wholesale slaughter incited by him is largely evidenced and witnessed not only by locals, but by Westerners as well.



Good point! What does the UN Tribunal say how long the killings took?


It is widely believed to have happened in the course of a couple of days.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 04:34 AM
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originally posted by: surnamename57
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Not 8500. At a rough estimate, it is about 8000.

Not interested in your links. There is a saying in the Balkans that goes, I'm showing you where the wolf is, you are showing me the tracks.


I saw somewhere 8,3XX so rounded on 500's or 1,000's = 8,500



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 04:38 AM
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a reply to: surnamename57

Good times. We all herein should reject looking at anything anyone else posts. Totally sweet environment absolutely devoid of echo chamberology metrics, such a model utterly drips with.

Brilliant!!!!





posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 04:44 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

As a rule, I deal with ignorance only once. Then I enjoy the right to ignore it.



posted on Apr, 6 2017 @ 06:04 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

Yeah.
Slobodan was a really nice guy. Like Bashar.
Right?



Congratulation. That's what the MSM propaganda campaign wants you to think.

Milosevic exonerated, as the NATO war machine moves on


The ICTY’s exoneration of the late Slobodan Milosevic, the former President of Yugoslavia, for war crimes committed in the Bosnia war, proves again we should take NATO claims regarding its ’official enemies’ not with a pinch of salt, but a huge lorry load.
For the past twenty odd years, neocon commentators and 'liberal interventionist' pundits have been telling us at every possible opportunity, that Milosevic (a democratically elected leader in a country where over 20 political parties freely operated) was an evil genocidal dictator who was to blame for ALL the deaths in the Balkans in the 1990s.

...

he truth is that Milosevic was no hardcore Serb nationalist but a lifelong socialist, whose commitment was always to a multi-racial, multi-ethnic Yugoslavia.

His aim throughout his time in power was not to build a ’Greater Serbia‘, but to try and keep Federal Yugoslavia together, as the ICTY now belatedly acknowledges.

Not only was Milosevic not responsible for ethnic cleansing which took place in Bosnia, he actually spoke out against it. The ICTY noted Milosevic’s “repeated criticism and disapproval of the policies made by the Accused (Karadzic) and the Bosnian Serb leadership.” Milosevic, a man for whom all forms of racism were anathema, insisted that all ethnicities must be protected.

But in order to punish Milosevic and to warn others of the consequences if they dared to oppose US power, history had to be re-written. The pro-Yugoslavia socialist who had opposed the policies of the Bosnian Serb leadership had to be turned, retrospectively, into the villain of the Bosnian War and indeed blamed for all the bloodshed which took place in the Balkans. Meanwhile, the aforementioned US Ambassador Warren Zimmerman, whose malign intervention to scupper a diplomatic solution helped trigger the Bosnian conflict got off scot-free.

The ‘Blame it All on Slobo’ campaign saw facts simply thrown out of the window. One article, written, I kid ye not, by an Oxford University Professor of European Studies even had Milosevic as leader of Yugoslavia in 1991 (the year that Slovenia broke away). In fact the Bosnian Croat, Ante Markovic, was the leader of the country at the time.

Inevitably, Milosevic was likened to Hitler. “It was just like watching the evil strutting Adolf Hitler in action,” wrote the News of the World’s political editor, when Milosevic had the temerity to defend himself in court. “There were chilling flashes of the World War Two Nazi monster as the deposed Serb tyrant harangued the court.”

To make sure readers did get the Milosevic=Hitler point, the News of the World illustrated their diatribe with a picture of Hitler ‘The Butcher of Berlin’, in front of a concentration camp, with a picture of Milosevic ‘The Butcher of Belgrade’ superimposed on a picture of a Bosnian concentration camp. Which in fact, he had nothing to do with.

Very conveniently for the prosecution, Milosevic died suddenly in his cell in March 2006.



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