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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 01:32 AM
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a reply to: firefromabove

Again I have caught you using Taqqiya - claiming that the Qu'ran does not mention child marriage.

Well it does; I bring to the table Sura 65:4


Qur'an 65:4 (Shakir)--And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.


This talks about divorcing women and the waiting period. It classifies them by how they menstruate (gross in itself if you ask me)

That bolded section mentions those who have not menstruated yet. ie prepubescent girls.

Furthermore this is backed up by another passage in the Qu'ran


For Muslims who want to say that this verse could refer to divorcing prepubescent girls whose husbands haven't had sex with them, the Qur'an refutes this claim. Surah 33:49 says that there is no waiting period if a man has not had sex with his bride.

Qur'an 33:49--O ye who believe! When ye marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of 'Iddat have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present. And set them free in a handsome manner.


www.answeringmuslims.com...

So again, you attempt to deceive us because it the truth of your religion is uncomfortable for you.

Even worse is the endorsement of goat raping;


“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” – From Khomeini’s book, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. …This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.” – ”Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrir al-Vasyleh,” Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.
“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.

A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”
– Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.


If there is one country worse that Saudi Arabia for Islamic indecency, it is Iran. These Fatwas (Holy decrees) come from non less than that lovely man Ayotollah Khomeini

themuslimissue.wordpress.com...

Long story short, stop lying to everyone in this thread. Islam loves child marrige and it also endorses beastiality.

And the Chrisitans were worried that gay marriage would lead to this sort of thing......tsk tsk Islam, you have proved that you CAN be religious and without any moral compass too.




posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 01:37 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: firefromabove

Again I have caught you using Taqqiya - claiming that the Qu'ran does not mention child marriage.

Well it does; I bring to the table Sura 65:4


Qur'an 65:4 (Shakir)--And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair.


This talks about divorcing women and the waiting period. It classifies them by how they menstruate (gross in itself if you ask me)

That bolded section mentions those who have not menstruated yet. ie prepubescent girls.

Furthermore this is backed up by another passage in the Qu'ran


For Muslims who want to say that this verse could refer to divorcing prepubescent girls whose husbands haven't had sex with them, the Qur'an refutes this claim. Surah 33:49 says that there is no waiting period if a man has not had sex with his bride.

Qur'an 33:49--O ye who believe! When ye marry believing women, and then divorce them before ye have touched them, no period of 'Iddat have ye to count in respect of them: so give them a present. And set them free in a handsome manner.


www.answeringmuslims.com...

So again, you attempt to deceive us because it the truth of your religion is uncomfortable for you.

Even worse is the endorsement of goat raping;


“A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.” – From Khomeini’s book, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

“A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. …This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister.” – ”Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrir al-Vasyleh,” Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.
“A man can marry a girl younger than nine years of age, even if the girl is still a baby being breastfed. A man, however is prohibited from having intercourse with a girl younger than nine, other sexual acts such as foreplay, rubbing, kissing and sodomy is allowed.

A man having intercourse with a girl younger than nine years of age has not committed a crime, but only an infraction, if the girl is not permanently damaged. If the girl, however, is permanently damaged, the man must provide for her all her life. But this girl will not count as one of the man’s four permanent wives. He also is not permitted to marry the girl’s sister.”
– Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrir al-Vasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom, Iran, 1990.


If there is one country worse that Saudi Arabia for Islamic indecency, it is Iran. These Fatwas (Holy decrees) come from non less than that lovely man Ayotollah Khomeini

themuslimissue.wordpress.com...

Long story short, stop lying to everyone in this thread. Islam loves child marrige and it also endorses beastiality.

And the Chrisitans were worried that gay marriage would lead to this sort of thing......tsk tsk Islam, you have proved that you CAN be religious and without any moral compass too.


Shall we e list the vile things from the old testament?

The very simple fact is that Quran or not, I guarantee you the very vast majority of Muslims are against sex with kids and are as disgusted by the notion as you or i. Just as any decent human being would be, since that's what the majority are, decent human beings.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:18 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

Then explain to me Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, anywhere the Caliphate of ISIS is, and any other nation living under Sharia law.

Oh and yeah, while it officially does not exist, slavery still exists in Saudi Arabia other ME nations too. And it naturally involves children and pedophilia as well as adults from all over.


While tens of thousands of adults are also victims of Arab slavers, many people only first took notice of the Arab slave trade in children when reports of enslaved child camel jockeys emerged from Persian Gulf countries. A 2004 HBO documentary on the subject was especially responsible for making Americans aware of this modern-day barbarism. These boys, who were sold by poor parents hoping their offspring would some day experience a better life, were primarily from South Asia. But instead of a life of dignity and meaningful work, they wound up in the Middle East where they were made to race camels for their Arab masters. Beaten and often sexually abused, they were all kept undernourished, so that the camels would have less weight to carry. “As many as 6,000 child camel jockeys…languished in hidden slavery on ozbah farms, where their masters beat them and starved them to keep their weight down,” wrote E. Benjamin Skinner in his book, A Crime So Monstrous. When investigating in the 1990s the enslavement of hundreds of thousands of black Africans in Mauritania by Arab-Berber masters, African-American author Samuel Cotton was stunned to discover that African children were still being kidnapped by Arabs traveling with camels carrying big baskets. The child, usually playing alone, would suddenly be snatched from its play and placed in one such basket, after which its new owners hurried away. The children, he was told, are sometimes found later “hundreds of miles away as slaves.”


www.frontpagemag.com...



The only way Islam can become a better religion is for it to turn it's back to the entire middle east where all of these things still fester away.

PS, you can list as many things as you want from the Old Testament. I addressed that line of argument on page 2 of this thread. No countrry on earth lives under or practises Mosaic law. We cannot say the same thing for Sharia and Qu'ranic law.
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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:33 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: 3danimator2014

Then explain to me Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, anywhere the Caliphate of ISIS is, and any other nation living under Sharia law.

Oh and yeah, while it officially does not exist, slavery still exists in Saudi Arabia other ME nations too. And it naturally involves children and pedophilia as well as adults from all over.


While tens of thousands of adults are also victims of Arab slavers, many people only first took notice of the Arab slave trade in children when reports of enslaved child camel jockeys emerged from Persian Gulf countries. A 2004 HBO documentary on the subject was especially responsible for making Americans aware of this modern-day barbarism. These boys, who were sold by poor parents hoping their offspring would some day experience a better life, were primarily from South Asia. But instead of a life of dignity and meaningful work, they wound up in the Middle East where they were made to race camels for their Arab masters. Beaten and often sexually abused, they were all kept undernourished, so that the camels would have less weight to carry. “As many as 6,000 child camel jockeys…languished in hidden slavery on ozbah farms, where their masters beat them and starved them to keep their weight down,” wrote E. Benjamin Skinner in his book, A Crime So Monstrous. When investigating in the 1990s the enslavement of hundreds of thousands of black Africans in Mauritania by Arab-Berber masters, African-American author Samuel Cotton was stunned to discover that African children were still being kidnapped by Arabs traveling with camels carrying big baskets. The child, usually playing alone, would suddenly be snatched from its play and placed in one such basket, after which its new owners hurried away. The children, he was told, are sometimes found later “hundreds of miles away as slaves.”


www.frontpagemag.com...



The only way Islam can become a better religion is for it to turn it's back to the entire middle east where all of these things still fester away.

PS, you can list as many things as you want from the Old Testament. I addressed that line of argument on page 2 of this thread. No countrry on earth lives under or practises Mosaic law. We cannot say the same thing for Sharia and Qu'ranic law.


You realise this sort of thing goes on in other countries right? Wanna shine your spotlight on Asia? Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam etc... China? Last time I looked, lots of slavery and Christians in China...



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:40 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014

Deflection is not a rebuttal.

Provide me with proof that all Islamic nations do not do any of what I have posted in this entire thread and I might be prepared to listen.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:44 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: 3danimator2014

Deflection is not a rebuttal.

Provide me with proof that all Islamic nations do not do any of what I have posted in this entire thread and I might be prepared to listen.


You are missing the point. If this thread and your posts had a shred of integrity and if you were actually appalled by the fact of child sex slavery rather than just being another tedious Muslim basher, you would mention the other countries, including christian ones, that have a big problem in this matter.

That's my point. Of course it goes on in those countries you listed. As it does in others. Sadly.

But I know you don't actually care about the kids, you just want to spread hatred for Muslims. Its a clear as day my friend.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:52 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014
But I know you don't actually care about the kids, you just want to spread hatred for Muslims. Its a clear as day my friend.


Mate, let me be extremely blunt here......

My mother was a victim of pedophilia. My partner is a victim too...... I was raised in the Catholic church. We had a pedophile priest in our parish. He tried it on me. But I was old enough and educated enough at the time to kick him in the nuts and tell him to # off.

I have lived with it's consequences all my life. And if I ever catch anyone doing it, they will receive a free castration with my hedge clippers.

So, yes I am very troubled by a religion that is callously allowing such things to happen. As this thread is about
Islam's involvment on the matter, I am staying on point. Unlike you.

Now spin away, as you lot love to do with the truth.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 02:56 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: 3danimator2014
But I know you don't actually care about the kids, you just want to spread hatred for Muslims. Its a clear as day my friend.


Mate, let me be extremely blunt here......

My mother was a victim of pedophilia. My partner is a victim too...... I was raised in the Catholic church. We had a pedophile priest in our parish. He tried it on me. But I was old enough and educated enough at the time to kick him in the nuts and tell him to # off.

I have lived with it's consequences all my life. And if I ever catch anyone doing it, they will receive a free castration with my hedge clippers.

So, yes I am very troubled by a religion that is callously allowing such things to happen. As this thread is about
Islam's involvment on the matter, I am staying on point. Unlike you.

Now spin away, as you lot love to do with the truth.


Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 03:03 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014


Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.


I deal with the western ones too. By outing them and bringing them to justice.

The difference is that the law of our land prohibits this. Yet Islam and wherever it spreads the malice of it's Wahhabi ways combined with Sharia law allows this sort of thing to become societally accepted.

You have not addressed a single point I raise about countries like Saudi Arabia who have no minimum age of marriage and Iran who allows men to practise bestiality. And you won't. You'll just call it a lie.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 03:22 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: 3danimator2014


Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.


I deal with the western ones too. By outing them and bringing them to justice.

The difference is that the law of our land prohibits this. Yet Islam and wherever it spreads the malice of it's Wahhabi ways combined with Sharia law allows this sort of thing to become societally accepted.

You have not addressed a single point I raise about countries like Saudi Arabia who have no minimum age of marriage and Iran who allows men to practise bestiality. And you won't. You'll just call it a lie.


I'm not discussing anything with a rabid anti Muslim..I'll be blunt, i dont like islamophobes.

Oh and sorry to tell you that bestiality is also legal in many US states and christian countries...so, I'm not sure why you are singeling out Iran?

Oh and I suggest you educate yourself about how low the age of consent is in some Christian countries. 12 year olds anyone?...so again, not sure why you are singling out Saudi Arabia .

Oh, yes I do. You hate Muslims. And don't care about hypocrisy or the truth.

Cool


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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 03:34 AM
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originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: 3danimator2014


Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.


I deal with the western ones too. By outing them and bringing them to justice.

The difference is that the law of our land prohibits this. Yet Islam and wherever it spreads the malice of it's Wahhabi ways combined with Sharia law allows this sort of thing to become societally accepted.

You have not addressed a single point I raise about countries like Saudi Arabia who have no minimum age of marriage and Iran who allows men to practise bestiality. And you won't. You'll just call it a lie.


You know...most muslim countries dont practice Wahhabiism .

And even in those that do, I assure you, the majority of people do dot condone child sex. What the hell is wrong with you?



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 03:52 AM
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a reply to: 3danimator2014





What was that you were just saying?????


Sudan has the largest gender gap: Girls can marry at 10 and boys can marry at 15 or puberty without parental or judicial permission. Several countries also have different age requirements depending on religious affiliation. For example, in the Philippines, couples must be 21 to marry without permission, unless they are Muslim; Muslim boys can marry at 15 and Muslim girls can marry at puberty. And in Tanzania, Muslim and Hindu girls can marry at 12 as long as the marriage is not consummated until the girl reaches the age of 15.


www.pewresearch.org...

Again and again, over and over the evidence regarding Islam is overwhelming.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 04:07 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014



Its a good thing no white Christians have ever raped a child....phew..

Now that's racist, It actually goes against Christian beliefs to do what your suggesting.

Can you please show me where the Christ commands its ok to rape anyone, let alone children.

This is just for starters...


Quran (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).
Quran (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..."  Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough).  However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.
Quran (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."
Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..."  There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...




And lastly, if you guys genuinely believe the majority of Muslims condone sex with kids..you are beyond saving in terms of ignorance.

Ignore the facts around the globe and where it stems from, no one is suggesting the majority do anything that's you, through Mohammad and his sick religion it allows for the marrying of children.



I have met and worked with thousands of Muslims in my life and they were all far more decent humans than any of you guys spreading hatred, ignorance and lies.

And I assure you on me of them would rape a child.
You guys are seriously behind hope.


Oh yes, we have all met Muslims so your not exclusively privy to anything. Its attitudes like yours that is allowing for our countries to be ever more Islamised. Rather than understand Mohammad and his example of a revolting human being that he was.

This thread is in direct response to a Malaysian Muslim PM repeating from the Quran that a girl is ready to marry at 9-12.
Mohammad the sicko prophet who married a 6 yr old and amongst many other repulsive acts is their guide for moral conduct.

So unless you learn the Qurans teachings and its core nature, which is the subjugation of all non Muslims and in Islam women are little more than a sex object with half a brain of a man, that are baby factories and once born into the religion they are automatically Islamic, which comes with the death penalty for Apostasy, its easy to see why Muslim numbers are increasing.
Three Quran Verses Every Woman Should Know


Islam is not a religion of peace.


Quran (8:38-39) - “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last major chapters that Muhammad narrated - hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion...".

Quran (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion"In conjunction with the preceding passage, this confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam. Quran (9:56-57) - "And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste." This refers to people living with the Muslim tribe who may not be true believers, but must pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?

Quran (2:193) - "And fight them until fitna is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase here is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."
Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" But didn't the earlier verse (2:256) state that there is "no compulsion in religion"? This contradiction is resolved by abrogation - where the later verse supersedes the earlier one.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...


When Muslims are in a foreign land and not in a position to dominate they are to smile in our faces but hate us within their heart.

Three Stages of Jihad


Its the same formula they have used for 1400 years which has spelt the doom of hundreds of millions of innocent people mainly men and their wives taken in forced conversion or used as sex slaves.

A few ways that guarantee them to their perverted paradise is by slaying and being slain for their Allah, or taking and spreading Islam into foreign lands through immigration.

It doesn`t take much to look to see Islam slowly but surely encroaching on our countries, America has many Muslim Brotherhood organisations spread all over, Canada is rife, the UK and Europe are almost unrecognisable to just a few decades ago.

If people want our children to grow up in free societies in the near future and not become countries like the Islamic dominated countries that already exist, then people had better pull their head out of the sand and critically learn what Islam is and start pushing back.


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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 04:10 AM
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originally posted by: gps777
originally posted by: 3danimator2014



Its a good thing no white Christians have ever raped a child....phew..

Now that's racist!

Can you please show me where the Christ commands its ok to rape anyone, let alone children.

This is just for starters...


Quran (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).
Quran (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..."  Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough).  However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.
Quran (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."
Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..."  There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...




And lastly, if you guys genuinely believe the majority of Muslims condone sex with kids..you are beyond saving in terms of ignorance.

Ignore the facts around the globe and where it stems from, no one is suggesting the majority do anything that's you, through Mohammad and his sick religion it allows for the marrying of children.



I have met and worked with thousands of Muslims in my life and they were all far more decent humans than any of you guys spreading hatred, ignorance and lies.

And I assure you on me of them would rape a child.
You guys are seriously behind hope.


Oh yes, we have all met Muslims so your not exclusively privy to anything. Its attitudes like yours that is allowing for our countries to be ever more Islamised. Rather than understand Mohammad and his example of a revolting human being that he was.

This thread is in direct response to a Malaysian Muslim PM repeating from the Quran that a girl is ready to marry at 9-12.
Mohammad the sicko prophet who married a 6 yr old and amongst many other repulsive acts is their guide for moral conduct.

So unless you learn the Qurans teachings and its core nature, which is the subjugation of all non Muslims and in Islam women are little more than a sex object with half a brain of a man, that are baby factories and once born into the religion they are automatically Islamic, which comes with the death penalty for Apostasy, its easy to see why Muslim numbers are increasing.
Three Quran Verses Every Woman Should Know


Islam is not a religion of peace.


Quran (8:38-39) - “Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease (from disbelief) their past will be forgiven... And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.”

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last major chapters that Muhammad narrated - hence abrogating what came before, including the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"There is no compulsion in religion...".

Quran (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion"In conjunction with the preceding passage, this confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam. Quran (9:56-57) - "And they swear by Allah that they are most surely of you, and they are not of you, but they are a people who are afraid (of you). If they could find a refuge or cave or a place to enter into, they would certainly have turned thereto, running away in all haste." This refers to people living with the Muslim tribe who may not be true believers, but must pretend to be in order to survive. They have no safe refuge to escape the Muslims. If Islam were a religion of peace, then why the fear?

Quran (2:193) - "And fight them until fitna is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase here is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."
Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking a religion other than Allah's, when every soul in the heavens and the earth has submitted to Him, willingly or by compulsion?" But didn't the earlier verse (2:256) state that there is "no compulsion in religion"? This contradiction is resolved by abrogation - where the later verse supersedes the earlier one.
www.thereligionofpeace.com...


When Muslims are in a foreign land and not in a position to dominate they are to smile in our faces but hate us within their heart.

Three Stages of Jihad


Its the same formula they have used for 1400 years which has spelt the doom of hundreds of millions of innocent people mainly men and their wives taken in forced conversion or used as sex slaves.

A few ways that guarantee them to their perverted paradise is by slaying and being slain for their Allah, or taking and spreading Islam into foreign lands through immigration.

It doesn`t take much to look to see Islam slowly but surely encroaching on our countries, America has many Muslim Brotherhood organisations spread all over, Canada is rife, the UK and Europe are almost unrecognisable to just a few decades ago.

If people want our children to grow up in free societies in the near future and not become countries like the Islamic dominated countries that already exist, then people had better pull their head out of the sand and critically learn what Islam is and start pushing back.





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Well done. You quoted the Quran....and yet, billions if Muslims go on daily without commiting these crimes you mention.

Case closed.

Bye



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 04:23 AM
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Well done. You quoted the Quran....and yet, billions if Muslims go on daily without commiting these crimes you mention.

Case closed.

Bye


Were there peaceful Germans in Germany, that lead to 6 million Jews slaughtered and many more millions in stopping Hitler? It sure wasn`t the peaceful Germans that prevented the massacre.

If Islam is a religion of peace why then are the so called extremists (which is estimated about 300,000,000) aren`t extremely peaceful? they are the complete opposite.

Its because Mohammad never taught peace.

But your quick redundant reply and to those video`s teaching you the Quran so that you could be at least informed, were a waste, how surprising.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 04:33 AM
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originally posted by: gps777
a reply to: 3danimator2014




Well done. You quoted the Quran....and yet, billions if Muslims go on daily without commiting these crimes you mention.

Case closed.

Bye


Were there peaceful Germans in Germany, that lead to 6 million Jews slaughtered and many more millions in stopping Hitler? It sure wasn`t the peaceful Germans that prevented the massacre.

If Islam is a religion of peace why then are the so called extremists (which is estimated about 300,000,000) aren`t extremely peaceful? they are the complete opposite.

Its because Mohammad never taught peace.

But your quick redundant reply and to those video`s teaching you the Quran so that you could be at least informed, were a waste, how surprising.




Wow... 300,000,000 million extremists huh?

Lol

Muhammed might not have taught peace, but clearly your mother never taught you tolerance

Just more lies from the hate crew.

That's what I'm going to call you guys. The hate crew
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posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 04:54 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014



Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.


Such a warm reply to what markosity1973 had shared. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Yet you judge us for being repulsed by the teachings and conduct of Mohammad, which is still infecting the world that many of his followers practice.

You think your spreading love? by poor attempts to silence people talking about the practices and teachings of Islam?

Oh that's right you worked with a Muslim so you must know all, news flash most people have either worked with or met a Muslim.

'Moderate' Muslims sharing their views.


If you don`t listen critically to what he says, he to sounds like a nice guy, he`s just a moderate like the rest. But even he is laughing at our media which mainly distorts the publics opinion on what Islam actually is.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 05:27 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014



Interesting that all that happened to your family, yet you focus on Muslim paedophiles.

Ok mate. Carry on, I'll let you keep spreading lies and hate.

By the way, if you think you shocked me or moved me at all with your story, guess again.


Such a warm reply to what markosity1973 had shared. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Yet you judge us for being repulsed by the teachings and conduct of Mohammad, which is still infecting the world that many of his followers practice.

You think your spreading love? by poor attempts to silence people talking about the practices and teachings of Islam?

Oh that's right you worked with a Muslim so you must know all, news flash most people have either worked with or met a Muslim.

'Moderate' Muslims sharing their views.


If you don`t listen critically to what he says, he to sounds like a nice guy, he`s just a moderate like the rest. But even he is laughing at our media which mainly distorts the publics opinion on what Islam actually is.



Yep, well done, you clocked me.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: 3danimator2014




Wow... 300,000,000 million extremists huh?

Lol

yeah about 15-25% hold extreme Islamic views back by Mohammad's commands.



Muhammed might not have taught peace, but clearly your mother never taught you tolerance

Just more lies from the hate crew.

That's what I'm going to call you guys. The hate crew


Right bring my mother into it, showing your lofty personality again.

I strand against abuse to children and against child molestation and marriage. Mohammad married a child and he also beat her and allowed the severe beatings of his followers wives. Something I`m never going to be tolerant with.

Mohammad slaughtered 800 Jewish men if they had pubes, people who took him in as refugee`s fleeing an area Mecca where he grew up and stole their lands and took their wives for themselves, he tortured a man by setting a fire on his chest to locate booty then killed him and took his wife for himself. I will never tolerate rape and such barbaric acts.

Mohammad led 80 offensive wars slaughtering and stealing and raping and forcing through subjugation his perverted religion. I will never tolerate Mohammad`s Islam as he is a Muslims guide for human conduct.

And the list goes on that Mohammad allows for.........

So if you want to call me or others hateful for standing against such examples of sick abuse and brutality that's entirely up to you.

I think my mother would still be happy with my continued stance against such things and not tolerate them, if she were still alive.



posted on Apr, 11 2017 @ 05:58 AM
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Well done. You quoted the Quran....and yet, billions if Muslims go on daily without commiting these crimes you mentio




Muhammed might not have taught peace


Remember the thread title -"Islam in government"

At least you have finally admitted how misinformed you were



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